RDM Nuke

[Veritas]

which is a good point here...

rdm silencing improved dramatically in our second run at dynamis-bastok where breakga got to be a serious problem. in windurst the problem came back. note that the avatar idols cast all tier 3 AoE black magic and the manifest icons seem to be the protect/shell guys not to mention they have cure 4

you guys must silence as hell. on everything. joft keeps whining about too many rdms, and thats not possible for the amount of magic users in dynamis-windurst.

drk you guys must stun since blm is busy when spells are being cast off, normally trying to kill what casts (the statues), so ready it. in a perfect situation rdm should keep silence on everything but we know things slip regardless of whatever perfection you try and put into it.

[berticus]

rdm/drk is nice too for when blms are (always) too tied up to stun

[Skylark]

Ok as a 75 BLM and RDM, (Taru) I'm gonna post my view on things

In dynamis, Rdm should never, ever, ever, be full mp.
There is so much stuff to do its kind of like a collibri merit party, except you can actually debuff the mobs
Toss a Slow or Paralyze, (maybe both if you feel necessary) Silence(If mage) Make sure everyone is cured, Refresh all of the mages in your party, If /whm make sure no negative status effects are on people, using the appropriate -na spell, If /blm, you should have really no time where you can use ES, should be using constantly to help with sleepga. Rdms fast cast + high enfeebling skill makes it ideal when paired with ES and Sleepga.

Now keep in mind, this is only in Dynamis.

Normally, I do think that Rdms can nuke, if the following is true.
1)Everyone is buffed and the mob is enfeebled
2) They have enough mp(Don't take this too gungho, don't want your party yelling at you when you have no mp and their buffs wear)
3) If you have decent gear for nuking (NO I don't want to see a RDM nuking in Walahra Turban and AF Body, if your going to nuke use something like Af head(+Ele skill) Errant body(+10 int, who can beat that) and the appropriate staff(Hopefully HQ)

"Yes you can!"
Rdms, have the great potential to become great DD mages.
Between their high Int, their high Elemental Skill, and the Fast Cast.
Key items to remember are
If it can't land, you shouldnt be nuking(Too many ele resists is never good)
Stack on MAB gear (Yigit feet are great addition, and for those who have morrigan, YES YES YES, Z mitts are pretty easy to obtain but that +5 MAB is great.)
/blm will get you the most dmg for your mp.)

So in conclusion, YES RDM CAN NUKE
The question is not whether they can nuke, it's when they should, Up in sky? Fine, Up in sea? Fine, Up in Dynamis? "CAN BE SITUATIONAL" If they need nuking or blms going down quick, then by all means toss out a blizz III, else what is convert for?

[chazzyphizzle]

Filthy necro is filthy.

[S N K]

I've nuked and magic-bursted upwards of near 800 damage a nuke on RDM on Fafhogg. I've seen on RDm named Markham on Fairy bust a 1k nuke on Fafnir. In Dynamis as an RDM you're pretty busy but if your shell rocks zones that hard and you have the mp, then by all means do a nuke if it helps.

Just don't get retarded and spam it all the time. I still magic burst nuke on RDM whenever I see a SC coming because I like hitting high numbers on a job most people can't think is possible of nuking really well. If anything gear makes a huge difference in how much overall damage your nukes can do as an RDM.

[wintersquall]

i nominate this thread for NotMFY.

[Riki]

And just a point of interest, a 75 RDM/BLM and a 75 BLM/WHM has the same base INT. A red mage with full INT gear can usually nuke just as hard as a BLM with the same gear and same spell.

lol 2004 is calling.
nice necro

[Cow_k]

Look on the bright side. He at least knew how to use the search function~

[Viena]

How do people end up unintentionally bumping those way old threads? Or am I being wooshed?

[The Blackrose]

Lets do the time warp agaaaaaain!

[Izzy]

How the fuck did you even come across this thread?

[Bdawgbud]

One thing i failed to see mention is gear selection and appropriate use. I have a Taru that has Capped Nuke Merits (Elemental, INT, Potency) with both RDM and BLM at 75. When i see 66% of RDMs nuking, especially in zones with statues (Not xarc) they are simply not geared right.

Consider these points:
RDM gear typically just to enfeeble and do "Cure Bitch" which is cool thats your playstyle, but dont expect your nukes to do much in full AF1 and NQ Thunder staff

Things to Consider about statues:
The reason why nukes typically do less damage is because of thier high INT also. Ive found that for certain Slots, it is better to stack INT for example RDM AF1 or +1 hat owns Yigit Turban (does in most cases anyways, but by a greater %) What RDMs need to do to be effective nukes is Macro in INT, Elemental Skill, and Some degree of Magic Attack Bonus when acceptable. When i go balls to the wall on Ele skill i can hit 300 on RDM which is what is the average for most BLMs. Also, HQ staffs play a HUGE Role, because they enable you to actually do more than the average BLM if you gear right.

Some Suggestions:
Cream Puff on food gives 7 INT, this is a no brainer for a RDM

Gear wise (Any RDM can get access to these items)
Macro in the following items: Errant Body, Legs, Hands, Warlock's Head, and Wise feet. ANY RDM HAS ACCESS TO THESE and can drastically boost Nuke damage.

Going further (Most RDM should be able to get these relatively easy)
Relic Legs, and Feet are very good nuke items, however Wise sometimes is better on feet with mobs with High INT.


Also one HUGE VERY OVERLOOKED TIP- Bio rapes statues because its DoT damage is not filtered one bit. If you are a RDM and are last one standing: even if you dont have good nuke gear there are alternatives. The same is true for poison2 also. Always LS leaders say NO DOT IN DYNAMIS but i garuntee you, statues cant be slept anyways so why would they give a damn if you Bio2 a statue. a Good Bio2 and Poison2 will do about 33% of thier HP in like 2mins. Statues have 1k HP.



Having said all that about RDM, if your not satisfied and want to nuke more, then just level black mage that is what its for and thats what i did.

[Guyverarmor]

Holy shit necro like a mutha O_O

[Titanss]

man i was seeing all the old names, not the dates, and was all fucked up on this thread