the GM's LOVE US

[Elcura]

Faranim, read this thread from page 1, then look at what you just posted today, then realize what a dumbass you are. MPK maybe a "user dispute" but it's still against the TOS. Claim stealing however, is a "user dispute", but apparently not against the TOS. Getting in an arguement where someone calls you a (insert nation/colour here with appropiate insult), that's a "user dispute" but as you can see some people got jailed for it others didn't.

GMs are human after all, and humans are unpredictable. See a gil seller MPK some group at the HNM? User dispute? They didn't get jailed. Then why did the guy who MPK'd you at Crawlers Nest get jailed? Tell me.

Honestly, everyone here can see what useless sacks of shit GMs are, but you go on defending them like you know how to do the job. You sound like one of those shitty GMs who let MPK'ers, Botters, Gil-sellers(buyers), Rapists, Serial Killers and Pedophiles get away with anything (the last 3 were jokes if you couldn't tell), just because you're too lazy or stupid to do anything about it, or didn't look into the story enough.

[Faranim]

Well it's clear to see that I'm not welcome here so I'll just go away. I hope that you find a solution to the MPK Problems on your server, and that you realize that the GMs alone won't be able to solve everything for you.

[Uruki]

All of the GM's I've run into (in my limited experience) have been constrained by the rules of their job, and therefore can't do as much as we'd like. I've GM'd on various text-based games where many of the same issues come up; it's possibly one of the hardest things to do to make a decision as to who's in the right and wrong, even if it seems clear-cut to players. *shrug*

And that's in a free game.

On the other hand, there's no reason that you have to be as robotic as the GMs seem to be in here, much less the asshatery displayed on both sides.

I don't call GMs much, as I generally avoid drama like the plague, but the last time I did was for a JP LS well-known for holding HNMs who were holding Fafnir. The GM who answered was polite, and I was polite in return, and the LS was apparently forced to actually attack instead of sleeping it.

-_- It got me nominated for making any future GM calls for the LS.

[Elcura]

Well it's clear to see that I'm not welcome here so I'll just go away. I hope that you find a solution to the MPK Problems on your server, and that you realize that the GMs won't do anything for you.

You do that. Also, fixed your statement, adios Faranim.

[Nag©]

I don't understand why so many people are anti-JP.

I've created an account just to answer you.
I'm on gilgamesh server, in Osiris HNM/sky LS for over 8 months now. There is 2 major other JP ls monopolizing EVERY King, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

We don't know why they keep doing this because it's obvious all of their member got all items they wanted a long time ago. Maybe it's to sell abjurations, then sell gils. Maybe it's just to keep beating NA players.

About this problem, GM's won't do anything. They will "investigate"... Yeah, SE is organizing new events at low lvl... but what about end game? I just hope we'll have one day chances to fight against kings, not by stealing or right after maintenance...

[Ambir]

They monopolise them on Quetz too. What the Quetz people ignore though is the way they monopolise them.

4am-7am JP time, each day, the alliance of JP LSs sends 2 full alliances of people to the Fafnir spawn. Every day. Most days they just sit and watch it until 7am and then kill it so that the window starts at 4am again the next day.

They don't appear to bot, as they lose claim often enough when they do have competition (usually on JP weekends, or if a NA shell decides to chase Fafnir for a bit), however they still monopolise the camp sheerly through dedication, and have been for well over 6 months now.

And you read posts on Quetz boards (and this one now...) about how NA don't have a chance, and how the GMs should do something about it, when I don't think any NA shell has even camped there for even seven days in a row.

I don't think GMs in any game can give someone dedication or persistence....

[NynJa]

Somewhere in the ToS it explicitly states that GMs are not responsible for solving User Disputes. I would consider MPK a form of User Dispute, because after all the users are responsible for causing it to happen. Stealing Claim is another user dispute. However, it is beyond the Users power to solve these disputes, and it is not a GM's job to solve them, so what happens? They don't get solved. Ant then who do we blame for them? the GMs.

Someone in my LS just got suspended for binding a mob on a lv20 JP bot / ToD mule at Behemoth's Dominion. He had just walked into the zone, and bound the mob, and he was gone.

And you read posts on Quetz boards (and this one now...) about how NA don't have a chance, and how the GMs should do something about it, when I don't think any NA shell has even camped there for even seven days in a row.

Maybe thats cause those NA's have better shit to do then sit around in the Aery for 2 hours just to lose claim on Fafnir ??







Oh shit, I just remembered.
Yesterday, a friend of mine and someone in his LS were handed out 1 day suspensions each.
They were /slapping each other in port jeuno.

Thats how fucking useful your beloved GM's are. They wont ban the gilsellers. They wont ban the faggot monopolizing botting JP's. They wont man that aggrogant fuck who MPK's you on your money (H)NM (they are usually a gilseller). But they WILL ban you for having /slap fests in port jeuno.

[Seekeronos]

Following the TOS is one thing, and it would certainly be nice to see some consistency with how GMs handle holding and MPK (especially between JP and NA LS).

On Pandemonium, no NA LS's really even bother with KB anymore. There is one small party of JPs that has that thing botted so well, it pops purple, and they can kill it in about 10-15min.

My guess is that is part of the only thrill left in the game for a group of haijin that has maxed gil on several mules, maxed crafts, and most jobs leveled to 70+ if not 75.... an acquaintance of mine was able to get the tongue for his monk for 500k from them.

Many Pandemonium NAs though, have given up on the ground HNM grind... and stick to Tu'Lia (which is slowly degrading into its own mess with all the newer Lv. 75s making Sky LS's and throwing the nightly rotation out of whack).


As for GMs, the group listed on this thread seem to be trying to do their jobs, albeit without any consistency.

As Faranim said, the only outlet that we as players have... is to keep sending email via POL to thier customer service. Will they listen? Perhaps it will take a long while.... and a lot of cancelled accounts... to make a change.

Having to deal with asshats like RustyMetal only makes things more complicated. I was amused... not by his antics, but at the level of sheer defiance to, and lack of respect for any kind of authority this guy has.

Frankly, it kind of awes me to think that someone who seems to have a high degree of intelligence can behave like such a sociopath. Perhaps this game is an outlet, but I shudder to think of him acting that way to a RL cop that pulled him over.

The Debug 114 thing is totally inexplicable... although it seems highly irregular for a GM to MPK a player, it is possible that the GM who did that just.... well, is human... and just snapped due to the whatever issues the GM had with that particular player. Seems that s/he was in Rusty's circle of friends.


Servers vary widely I guess, when it comes to the specific climate that exists with gilsellers, bots, and JP/NA relations. Lately, Pandemonium has been feeling a lot of that kind of stress with CFH calls on NMs and gilseller MPK wars, with seemingly little done by the GMs to help.

Too much drama; the LS I belong to has given up on most of the camping BS and now spend more time doing ENM, leveling odd jobs, and BCNM.

Basically enjoying the game, even if we must forego full koenig or dalmatica or the like.


I kind of envy Faranim's server, as it seems their population is fairly even-minded and observes a high level of ettiquette with HNM/Sky.

I even heard of a server (not sure if it is Seraph) where the JPs and NAs take turns on ground Kings as people need abjurations or specific gear from them.

[FREE GLUDD]

Isn't it obvious? Square-Enix is working with the Gil Sellers. 800 Ban? Yeah right, they just gave them all new accounts to work with so real players think that they actually did something. Very few GM are actually nice, but most of them don't even care and want to get the GM Call over as quick as possible, i.e a term we're all familiar with: Greetings (Name), Currently this mater is beig looked into. Oh yea, I even threw in some spelling mistakes for added effect. Oh and by the way, think about it! Have you EVER seen Gil Sellers actually leveling in Ronfaure? Gustaberg? Dunes? Neither have I. Sure some Chinese people that don't speak English just want to level up, but just because they are Chinese people make stereotypes. Come on, what the hell is wrong with someone who doesn't speak English or Japanese going to camp Stroper Chyme for a few hours? Most Gil Sellers are actually nice if you talk with them while Skilling Up in Kuftal. I know I've talked to a few Gil Sellers and they joked around with me, I even got a laugh or two. Furthermore, in conclusion, Free Gludd, Free Gludd...Free GLUDD.

[Person]

Guys Faranim doesn't get the botting aspect of it cause his LS has the biggest botter on the server.

[Demetrio$]

editedlolz

[WillyWonka]

[Ambir]

And you read posts on Quetz boards (and this one now...) about how NA don't have a chance, and how the GMs should do something about it, when I don't think any NA shell has even camped there for even seven days in a row.

Maybe thats cause those NA's have better shit to do then sit around in the Aery for 2 hours just to lose claim on Fafnir ??

Exactly! And that's also why there are no Dalmatica wearing NAs on Quetz...

[NynJa]

And you read posts on Quetz boards (and this one now...) about how NA don't have a chance, and how the GMs should do something about it, when I don't think any NA shell has even camped there for even seven days in a row.

Maybe thats cause those NA's have better shit to do then sit around in the Aery for 2 hours just to lose claim on Fafnir ??

Exactly! And that's also why there are no Dalmatica wearing NAs on Quetz...

Perhaps I misread your post.

Were you saying that NA's dont get claims because they dont try, or because its a futile effort ??

[Demetrio$]

editedlolz

[Almaa]

interesting how all these people have 1 post count

[Elemmire]

actually.. that's wrong.. I know of atleast 2 NA LS(on quetzy) that have been camping Fafnir/Nidhogg every day for the last oh.. 3 or so months. In total (as in both of them together) has gotten maybe.. 2 or 3 Fafnirs and one Nidhogg. The Nidhogg was only due to the JP causing a spike flail and wiping them and then they got it. They still try hard to get the HNMs.. but they don't a lot of the time. I wish they would get them more for all the effort they put in because those members deserve atleast some fun from those HNMs... KB hasn't been touched by NA for months either and I know that NA have tried because I took the LS I'm in for well over a month (not every day but the only days we missed were ones that KB couldn't possibly pop on) to try and get KB (before ya.. I got screwed over where I live >.>). And we got not one KB claim.. got like.. 2 or 3 Behemoths. How does a JP player get claim on KB with poison when we are spamming provoke? even the NA player in our LS that lives in JP was spamming provoke and didn't beat them. The JP NIN in our LS didn't get claim either (he's an AWESOME NIN by the way :D) though he was very close to where it popped. And another thing.. 5 minutes before KB pops the JP all get into a nice little circle right where KB pops (and yes.. we moved our members with them so we could try but still couldn't get claim). Aspid/Adamantoise.. the JP leader that goes after that is a completely racist ass. He will MPK and Steal and Stall without a second thought.. and has many time. So no.. Quetzy people do try hard for these Land gods but still have troubles because of the cheap shit end game. We send all the info we can and talk calmly and kindly (atleast I know I do) to the GMs and the GMs (atleast most of em) presented themselves very uncaring. There were a few GMs though.. such nice people and enjoyable to talk to. They actually seemed to care and did something about it. I haven't seen them in a long time though.. bet they got fired like Gludd cause they did their job...

[Fira]

BOO FUCKIN HOO

[Ambir]

Perhaps I misread your post.

Were you saying that NA's dont get claims because they dont try, or because its a futile effort ??

Because they don't put in the same effort as the JP....

I'm interested in who Elemmire thinks has been camping Fafnir Niddhogg every day for the past 3 months...

My LS was has been up there for only maybe 6-7 spawns in the last five weeks, and there hasn't been another NA shell there for any of them...

Certainly none of OH, BoL, NH, Valkyrs or Ascension has been up there every day for 3 months, and I'd be surprised if any have been up there for more than 10 spawns total...

[NynJa]

I wouldnt say what the JP's do is "effort"


/packetbot start "Fafnir"
*go afk jacking off to mithra porn*

I know they do this, because they NEVER fucking spam. it is always ONE person who vokes / chi blasts.


if thats effort...wow.



heres what NA's do.

"ok, spawning in 1 min...spam"
You must specify a valid target for that ability.
You must specify a valid target for that ability.
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JPBOT uses Provoke on the HNM.
You must specify a valid target for that ability.
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Cannot Attack
Your target is allready claimed.
"fucking, spawn claimed"




wow, who the fuck wants to do that for 2 hours per day, 3 times per day, 7 days in a week ??
I sure as fuck dont.