Whats up with all these top 10 with 0 SS?...

[Solefald]

Not sure i agree with the frequency kill thing. THat just shows which ls has the best pings or the most JP friends to come claim for them and not which ls actually has the skillz to take down HNM's without outside help. The result would also be those ls's who sit their asses in sky all week every week would probs be at number 1

what's wrong with outside help? oh that's right, nothing. even NC gets outside help for the wyrms. and after the shittalking about not needing outside help, you guys get outside help to hold fafnir. gg hypocrites

[Aratharn]

Not sure i agree with the frequency kill thing. THat just shows which ls has the best pings or the most JP friends to come claim for them and not which ls actually has the skillz to take down HNM's without outside help. The result would also be those ls's who sit their asses in sky all week every week would probs be at number 1

what's wrong with outside help? oh that's right, nothing. even NC gets outside help for the wyrms. and after the shittalking about not needing outside help, you guys get outside help to hold fafnir. gg hypocrites

The difference in knowing your own LS can kill it and knowing you need help?

And we teamed up with an LS to hold Fafnir, not to kill, to keep it out of JP time cause your LS kept calling GM's on us when we were trying to keep it in NA time (smart?) and now it's spawning at noon and what do you know, 3 JP LS showin up.

So whenever you get through.

[kearnsy]

didn't you apply for PO sole?

[Solefald]

some LS would rather not recruit an 80-member roster (half of whom will never get loot because there are already 9 people with the same job ahead of them in loot queue) for enough playtime coverage to be able to farm the wyrms. those LS get outside help.

as for gm call, /shrug. i've always disagreed with paging gm for holding and even warped out of a camp the last time they did it. seems most people want a break from camping fafnir and letting japanese take it over is one way of accomplishing that.

[Solefald]

didn't you apply for PO sole?

yup. and skunkie applied for PO after he was turned down by r0.

edit: in general i like PO but i hate the shittalking by *some* of your members. i think some r0 talk too much shit as well.

[Aratharn]

We don't have 80 people, (low 50's) and we can still kill 2/3 Wyrms with np.

for enough playtime coverage to be able to farm the wyrms.

This coming from the same people who engaged Tiamat at 2:00am EST on a weeknight.

This thread is getting lame, let's just stop with the senseless bashing puhlease.

[kearnsy]

some LS would rather not recruit an 80-member roster

looking out our roster, and your roster page, it looks like your roster is still bigger o.o

outside help, and calling GMs is bullshit i'm sorry.

[Zillorge]

sol, your ls was willing to help hold it if we were gonna get warped out...

so its like we are all working together finally like the jps do already, maybe some good can come of this unless you wanna walk your baby-nuts around somemore?

gg

[mithralily]

wow this tread turned into a flame thread pretty fast.

[Darm]

We teamed up to hold it as we don't have a particularly large number of people on at 11:30 AM EST and it was the only way to get it out of JP time. We don't have the luxury of people on at any hour of the day. We've killed the wyrms with 40 or so and those are the members who are active of the 50 or so. Your LS lists just as many, and I'd much rather have 40 in LS than have to team up/pay off random individuals. As for a loot queqe it's pretty difficult to get everyone king mob pieces especially when 2 of the kings are in JP time. I still <3 yousole ; ;.

[mdn]

sucks that after a week our new whm has a noble's and after a month our thf has a dragon's harness and bard an osode :l

desi's punk ass outlots me on every piece of af2 though so i'll just go farm the AH for some more of those awesome blm drops!

this topic got retarded though and someone should lock it or something :l

[Desi]

owned

[Mav]

what's wrong with outside help? oh that's right, nothing. even NC gets outside help for the wyrms. and after the shittalking about not needing outside help, you guys get outside help to hold fafnir. gg hypocrites

ROFL haveing help to hold a mob out of jp time, is far from haveing to team up because you are not able to kill something by yourself.

[Xanatos]

darm got a ridill

[Skeiron]

I saw this after I put my LS on Big Kills. I'll be putting some pics on there tomorrow. We're not in the top 10, but a KB and Jormy kill will get us there. If you need any proof goto http://www.defiancelinkshell.com and register to our forums. We just killed Tiamat tonight and I felt like it was a good time to put us on BG.

Btw, if anyone remembers Sleep on Big Kills a long time ago, we're a reshell of them.

As for rare drops, we go two Ridills in one week and two Koenig body abjurations the next week. >.>

[crakmunky]

Stop bashing Sole. He's the ONE sticking up for you guys in his own LS.

So, I guess I'll come here and stick up for him.

And certain people do the same thing. Maybe in different circumstances, but still the same IMO.

So, I can very well see Sole's PoV. There's no reason to insinuate or insult Sole for that. His response was to Skunkie's subtle insult, erroneous as it was. Then it snowballed from there.

My apologies to those not on Midgardsormr. This must be like crazy talk to you all :/

EDIT: Well I suggested the frequency of kills because it would keep the big kills thing interesting. As it is now, you kill once, you get a point and that's that. But maybe have a little "bonus" for frequent kills would mix up things. Maybe on certain mobs or whatever. /shrug