Can Drg be an Impact job endgame?

[Babyorphan]

SE screwed DRG over when it come to HNM.
Nobody really feel like dragging a DRG along.. ._.

[Ayu]

Cause i like ember and lady sitting with me when im healing for mana not to mention the drg's i go kill with deal just as much if not more damage then most mnks and sams when the battle is all said and done

Show me a parser and then I'll believe you. Until then you're wrong.

Not only can DRG keep up with other melee classes, it can do better. In this log, the DRG even out damaged RNG in some fights. Add the wyvern damage and the DRG does even better; I think people forget about the wyvern a lot. And granted, they don't do much, but they do help out.

In this pt the set up was

Valandil: PLD
Mijin: DRG
Muffin: Mijins Wyvern
Blurmax: RNG
Tarumaru: BRD
Maropong: WHM
Balas: THF

Read This (if you REALLY want to or skip right to the log):
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Phaser Log(the damage)
http://www.materia-ls.com/021005-Report.htm

For reference, I found this on the net, I was not in the pt. However, I am sick of people hatin' on DRG. On my server, I always enjoy partying with them. Luckily, the DRG hate seems to be fading on Kujata.

99% of the people who hate the job only hate it because someone else told them they sucked; they never really gave DRG a chance. Nowadays, DRG's are getting more parties and people's opinions are thankfully changing.

[Onizuka]

Aya, you cant base a whole job on one pt, we don't know all the details but im in no way a drg hater seeing i was one. drg isent bad just lacky in abilitys.

Now comparing my drg and drk seeing i took them from 1-40 at the same time first drg to 32 then drk to 32 then drg to 40 and drk to 40

My drg was kick ass, my wyvren did as much dmg as i did in dunes, but the higher i got the weaker he got, i did More dmg with drg 1-40 then with drk but lvling drk from 1-40 i had to lvl dark magic and 2 weapons, it wasn't easy but it pays off, with drg it was more fun that drk, i loved jump attacks and elemental breath, my acc was better too, cause of acc bonus. drk got stronger in time while drg got weaker is all, not saying drg is weak, but in the low lvls it pwned for me

On the BG web site the requirements for drg are: Must be lvl 75 and have another job at 75 and meet the requirments of that job XD

[Ayu]

Meh, they asked for a log, I gave 'em one.

I know what it says on the BG site, and while I do like their videos and I do think they are a good LS, I whole-heartedly disagree with the stance on DRG. I've defeated Kirin and several other NM's with dragoons fighting alongside me and I wouldn't have had it any other way.

Wheeling Thrust is a solid WS and contrary to popular belief Drg can stun enemies, as I'm sure you know since you played as one. Granted against the big NM's stun is inneffective, but that's not exclusive to drg, pretty much all stuns are ineffective against them.

But to each his own; it's a great game and people should just have fun with it.

[Onizuka]

Meh, they asked for a log, I gave 'em one.

I know what it says on the BG site, and while I do like their videos and I do think they are a good LS, I whole-heartedly disagree with the stance on DRG. I've defeated Kirin and several other NM's with dragoons fighting alongside me and I wouldn't have had it any other way.

Wheeling Thrust is a solid WS and contrary to popular belief Drg can stun enemies, as I'm sure you know since you played as one. Granted against the big NM's stun is inneffective, but that's not exclusive to drg, pretty much all stuns are ineffective against them.

But to each his own; it's a great game and people should just have fun with it.

Well i just stuned Seriyu like 20 times about an our ago o.O, infact the only reason i got to stay in main alliance for the 2 fightes was cause of stun, at first start we had 4 rng's out side of alliance and and 3 drks in alliance >.>, but for second fight i was the only drk, rng's shadowbinded Hundred fists and we chain stun'ed, mnk came in for chi blast(was wearing mnd gear and subbing whm) and ws, sam came in at end and did about 5 ws's blm's nuking drk's SATA'ed so did war(for1347dmg>.>)
other drks were taken out after ws, then rng's came in and out, i had to stay cause i was in stun pt with blm's, what this strory is supose to mean is, i don't see how a drg could have helpt here..well not as much as any other melee would have, not cause their weak just that their lacky something special and high dmg, meleeing a god doesn't help much and drg ws's arent great. I had found out awhile ago that mleeing gods is almost worthless but with souleater i did 100-160 dmg per hit on him today >.>, plus stuning constantly, so i help in more than ways than 1. I think drg takes a big hit at HNM ls's cause of situations like this, we had more than 18 people, mages switched out when mp hit 0, when tanks died they got replaced, and melee switched in and out with opo neclesess and sleep potions, if we had a drg i can sadly say we would have had no real use for him, nothing he would be needed for that anyother job couldn't do, if not alot better ; ;

But even so i don't feal all powerfull cause im not, and i even wanted to lvl another job to 75 cause it's not easy for melee end game period! It's just harder for drg. I personally like sams end game, and with the new JSE out they can probally get 100 TP faster than SATA can regain >.>

[kearnsy]

sleeping pots for gods?

[Onizuka]

sleeping pots for gods?

Try thinking why melee would need this at a God fight when switching in and out of main alliance^^

[Kuai]

drg.......


























lol.........














http://home.comcast.net/~kuai/clp1072.jpg

[ChOkOmArU]

OMG old pic haha look at me in background with wyvern helm >.> old school hehe

btw i dont like to bash...but i was never a fan of drg. Drk is ok but not that great either ^^ i think one of best best end game melee would have to Samurai constant tp...you dont know how much i hate subbing sam,and missing my weapon skill;;

[rooster]

/agree choko

[Raineer]

This is so wrong (as I'm not really a drg-hater) but we have one DRG in our LS. He auto-follows Kirin and does a /linkshell macro calling out what spells he's casting. That's all he does on Kirin. It's actually pretty helpful. But, not really job-specific to DRG I guess.

He melees on the other gods I'm pretty sure and wheeling thrust is pretty cool. I don't know much about DRG except that they can solo hard things by spamming dia and posion and using birdie tricks. I guess that looks cool.

[Genosync]

Cause i like ember and lady sitting with me when im healing for mana not to mention the drg's i go kill with deal just as much if not more damage then most mnks and sams when the battle is all said and done

Show me a parser and then I'll believe you. Until then you're wrong.

Not only can DRG keep up with other melee classes, it can do better. In this log, the DRG even out damaged RNG in some fights. Add the wyvern damage and the DRG does even better; I think people forget about the wyvern a lot. And granted, they don't do much, but they do help out.

In this pt the set up was
BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH...

Excuse me, if I may... but isn't the topic about DRG fighting end-game HNM?

Disregarding that, look at your log a little closer.
You'll note that the RNG was doing Heavy Shots quite often, instead of Slug Shot. Also, he didn't WS every single mob. And trust me, RNG can.

Let your RNG do his most damaging abilities instead of focusing solely on the stupid renkei. Then we'll talk.

This is so wrong (as I'm not really a drg-hater) but we have one DRG in our LS. He auto-follows Kirin and does a /linkshell macro calling out what spells he's casting. That's all he does on Kirin. It's actually pretty helpful. But, not really job-specific to DRG I guess.

And that just made my day.

[ImPreSSivE]

lmfao,

[quote:f15f7]
This is so wrong (as I'm not really a drg-hater) but we have one DRG in our LS. He auto-follows Kirin and does a /linkshell macro calling out what spells he's casting. That's all he does on Kirin. It's actually pretty helpful. But, not really job-specific to DRG I guess.

And that just made my day.[/quote:f15f7]

and that definitley made mine

[Vanostek]

there is no better DD when it comes to farming water in sky^^

our DRG does nearly 2k dmg to pots with Full Swing WS

[Amarok]

Wtf was I yelling about in that picture?

[Scunsion]

Wtf was I yelling about in that picture?

Amarok: Scunsion why didn't you call me last night?
Scunsion: I was at a friends house.
Amarok: Liar, you didn't even say good bye when you got out of bed.
Amarok: You're cheating on me aren't you?
Amarok: It's true isn't it?
Amarok: ANSWER ME GODDAMNIT

[Liltwin]

Wtf was I yelling about in that picture?

Amarok: Scunsion why didn't you call me last night?
Scunsion: I was at a friends house.
Amarok: Liar, you didn't even say good bye when you got out of bed.
Amarok: You're cheating on me aren't you?
Amarok: It's true isn't it?
Amarok: ANSWER ME GODDAMNIT

wafflez

[Darkvalentine]

Wtf was I yelling about in that picture?

Amarok: Scunsion why didn't you call me last night?
Scunsion: I was at a friends house.
Amarok: Liar, you didn't even say good bye when you got out of bed.
Amarok: You're cheating on me aren't you?
Amarok: It's true isn't it?
Amarok: ANSWER ME GODDAMNIT

wtf....

[Amarok]

hahahaha

[Fira]

Sam can deal greeat dmg with fast ws's spaming, mnk's can deal mass avg dmg with fast powerfull attacks

I'll buy those 2 but..

drk can do mass dmg with diffrent ws's onto tank(so can sam)

and i myself have done a 1387 spinning slash 1747 light and brought the mob down from 85%hp

Do that kind of damage with anything other then /thf :3 Without /thf DRK is pretty fuckin gimp, especially when it comes to the Wyrms.