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    NEW NMS

    I'll be back in the USA like this wednesdayish... and wana add some more NMs... but being 2 weeks away from the game or more now... i need some help

    the 3 BC99 NMs need to be added... yes i agree... and list what else and the point value you think they should get.

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    Waraxe Beak - 30 points

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    Gration-6 points IMO

    Need to add the KSBCNMs and maybe Divine Might.

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    New Ram HNM and Toreador's Cape HNM.

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    I remember Bert mentioning adding stuff like Dynamis Bosses to HNM list. While they aren't really HNMs, clearing Dynamis as a single(No team ups) LS would constitute as a Big Kill point(s). After all it does, take same effort as it does with Gods/HNMs, if not more.

    Dynamis-Xarcabard - 10 points
    Dynamis-Beacidine - 7 points
    Dynamis-Windhurst - 5 Points (It is harder than other cities imo)
    Dynamis-Jeuno - 3 points
    Dynamis-Bastok - 3 points
    Dynamis-San d'Oria - 3 points

    Just a thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solefald
    Waraxe Beak - 30 points
    Ooo, this means I could solo myself some massive points :D

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    LoL Would Maat constitute as an HNM? XD

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    Dynamis lord 15 points, simply because it takes massive effort to get to him, clearing all other D's, and Actually killing him before he kills you.

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    Nah, I think Dynamis zone should constitute as a single HNM kill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hirronimus
    LoL Would Maat constitute as an HNM? XD
    For me it should XD haven't tried that bastard a 3rd time yet, getting annoyed.

    Also having R0 atm so I'm pretty pissed off, it makes farming more of a chore -.-

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hirronimus
    Nah, I think Dynamis zone should constitute as a single HNM kill.
    I like the idea of Dynamis also on Big Kills but Dynamis - Xarcabard only 10 points? If this is limited to only LS's that solo Dynamis (no teaming up) then I would put Dynamis - Xarcabard in the 15-20 point range

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    Nah, I didn't mean for those points to be exact points, I just posted amount of points to show difficulty levels to other Dynamis zones.

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    I don't think Dynamis should be on bigkills, because it's geared towards a 64 person limit whereas HNMs are geared towards an 18 person limit. It's hard to compare, and it's just a completely different situation from HNM encounters.

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    what's up with the point values anyway

    cassie is 3 points yet vivian is 2.

    ungur (is it even an "hnm"?) is 2 points yet bune is 1.

    cemetary cherry is worth 3 points yet behemoth is worth 1, despite cherry being easier to claim and kill, and drops a less desirable item than behemoth.

    lumberjack is on the list yet alkyoneus and a bunch of other high level nms aren't.

    imo everything on the list now that is worth 3 points and below should be worth 1, and most everything else subtract 2 from the point value, except kirin which should subtract 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solefald
    what's up with the point values anyway
    cassie is 3 points yet vivian is 2.
    ungur (is it even an "hnm"?) is 2 points yet bune is 1.
    cemetary cherry is worth 3 points yet behemoth is worth 1, despite cherry being easier to claim and kill, and drops a less desirable item than behemoth.
    lumberjack is on the list yet alkyoneus and a bunch of other high level nms aren't.
    imo everything on the list now that is worth 3 points and below should be worth 1, and most everything else subtract 2 from the point value, except kirin which should subtract 3.
    hmm. the reason cassie is more is because it's more competitive. ungur vs bune, i think ungur is 2 because of how frustrating it is to pop, bune is 1 because of how nobody ever hunts it. i guess this could vary by server but i don't think we're going to try to factor that in because we're not trying to be scientific enough to have that much precision. i don't think those need changing, but the cherry/behemoth thing is pretty odd, i think we can change it.

    also adding Alkyoneus seems like a good idea. and as for uniformly reducing all the point values, i don't think we'll ever do that. getting a high maximum point value is cool 8) and future NMs that are perhaps harder than vrtra could be like a 20 or something. if it ever gets out of control we could do uniform reduction, or maybe we can set the standard for the craziest NM in FFXI at one time at 15, though i don't like the idea that everything on there now will be 1 in a few years thanx for the suggestions tho. changes soon~

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    adding all of the new pop nms would be good, bc99s should be also, with the turtle being worth the most points due to its insane regen, i dont think that alkyonis (sp) should be added, i mean, if its easily duoable at 75, i dont think it should be an accomplishment for an entire ls, but then again i could be wrong. ouryu should be added, due to his difficulty and the rarity of the enm item to spawn him.

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    Bune is camped to hell on Lakshmi. So is pretty much any NM that drops a high gil item.

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    a lot of the nms on the list are duoable at 75, serket, ada, behe, cassie, loo

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    CC has like 10x the HP of VV.. but VV has potential (very sleepable) adds.

    i still say CC is harder.

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    That Enhancing Sword is seriously overrated for the price it's at currently on Fairy (14m+ wtf!?).

    It's only useable via one job, people who I know that have one say it's good, but definately not even remotely close in terms of worth to that price. Yeah I hear that the drop is pretty bad, but Bune isn't something that requires a gross amount of people to kill anyway -.- Also, the level to use that sword is also quite late in the game too, really gotta wonder why in hell it sells so high.

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