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  1. #181
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moggy
    no i wouldn't solo roc as drg, it would be as bard
    Excuse me while I roflmfao.

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    BRD can actually solo just as efectively as a rdm. By effectively I mean not dieing. It requires sleeping, swinging until you hit for more then 0, then sleeping again. Keep utsusemi/stoneskin+blink up and you won't get hit.

    It would take awhile, but he could

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orfeo
    BRD can actually solo just as efectively as a rdm. By effectively I mean not dieing. It requires sleeping, swinging until you hit for more then 0, then sleeping again. Keep utsusemi/stoneskin+blink up and you won't get hit.
    kind of but no.

    RDMs have this thing called higher sword skill which lets them do more damage, they have this thing called en-spells which lets them do even more damage. they have this thing called elemental magic which lets them kill elementals and other physical damage resistant mobs.

    the concept of RDM + BRD soloing is similar but BRDs are not "just as efective", they are considerably worse in most cases.

    edit: typo

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    Yeah, Bards can't solo worth shit. RDM also have high enhancing magic for protect and stoneskin and phalanx... and refresh and haste.... and BRDs can only have 2 songs on... and sub job enhancing magic... so rofl

    But seriously, why would BRD need to solo? Bards are always in parties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avvesione
    Yeah, Bards can't solo worth shit. RDM also have high enhancing magic for protect and stoneskin and phalanx... and refresh and haste.... and BRDs can only have 2 songs on... and sub job enhancing magic... so rofl

    But seriously, why would BRD need to solo? Bards are always in parties.
    BECAUSE BRD/NIN WITH JSE AND SONGS MEANS YOU CAN RECAST UTSUSEMI REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY FAST WITHOUT GETTING HIT BECAUSE OF THE REALLY REALLY FAST CASTING WHILE DISREGARDING THE NEED FOR HEALING OR OTHER SONGS CAUSE LORD KNOWS ROC CAN'T GET PAST YOUR SHADOWS.

    If you couldn't tell I was being sarcastic.

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    BRD actually can solo Simurgh...sleep lands every single time, bards have done this numerous times on a lot of servers, including my own. It would just take a motherfucking long time.

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    these guys don't understand cos they didn't know Roc has virtually no resistance to lullaby and full resistance to sleep

    the best i've done was solo him down to 3/4hp before alliance came to kill it

    another time i claimed with a rdm only, tried ES sleep II, does not land, however by lullaby nuke III we took him down to 1/2 before nin came back

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    BRD in my ls held simurgh for 1.5hours before while we were killing fafnir lol.

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    well u c, if all u do is lullaby, lullaby, lullaby, ppl can call a GM for holding NM

    but if u hit it, lullaby, utsusemi, hit it, lullaby utsusemi, repeat ppl cannot call a GM
    and soon u'll notice Roc either has no regen rate or 1hp a tick or something, hence he is soloable by a bard X)

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    Especially bards that actually gear up for melee, like me and my +55 STR. You sub nin for Daylight Dagger and Joyeuse, means you build tp faster and do alot more damage then /whm, and can use Evisceration which can actually do pretty nice damage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiberion02
    Especially bards that actually gear up for melee, like me and my +55 STR. You sub nin for Daylight Dagger and Joyeuse, means you build tp faster and do alot more damage then /whm, and can use Evisceration which can actually do pretty nice damage.
    ALL RIGHT! XD a fellow DD bard
    i actually did 600 Evisceration without food on Roc lol
    i think if i could claim i can kill him in 3-4 hours

    now if i get my hands on some heca gear and osode o_o

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elcura
    Quote Originally Posted by Moggy
    no i wouldn't solo roc as drg, it would be as bard
    Excuse me while I roflmfao.
    of course this would come from a rdm cos mr "designed to solo" rdm here cannot ever solo Roc X)

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    Too bad Ulmega is a Mithra, and whenever a Mithra wants a Bard, I'll be there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moggy
    Quote Originally Posted by Elcura
    Quote Originally Posted by Moggy
    no i wouldn't solo roc as drg, it would be as bard
    Excuse me while I roflmfao.
    of course this would come from a rdm cos mr "designed to solo" rdm here cannot ever solo Roc X)
    Of course, when I want to waste a possible 3 hours waiting for Roc to pop plus another 4-5 hours actually killing it, i'll let you know. Until then, i'll farm castle zhavl with /thf. But if a BRD, or DRG manage to solo mission 5-1, please let me know. I've heard stories of a RDM solo'ing Roc till it did Benediction until their LS mates made it, I think it took 2 and a half hours to get it there. This is of course not sleep hitting like you plan to do, which would probably take you half a day or longer, and humans are prone to error and fatigue, nevermind boredoem and demotivation. You can't solo Roc Moggy, solly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elcura
    Quote Originally Posted by Avvesione
    Yeah, Bards can't solo worth shit. RDM also have high enhancing magic for protect and stoneskin and phalanx... and refresh and haste.... and BRDs can only have 2 songs on... and sub job enhancing magic... so rofl

    But seriously, why would BRD need to solo? Bards are always in parties.
    BECAUSE BRD/NIN WITH JSE AND SONGS MEANS YOU CAN RECAST UTSUSEMI REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY FAST WITHOUT GETTING HIT BECAUSE OF THE REALLY REALLY FAST CASTING WHILE DISREGARDING THE NEED FOR HEALING OR OTHER SONGS CAUSE LORD KNOWS ROC CAN'T GET PAST YOUR SHADOWS.

    If you couldn't tell I was being sarcastic.
    heh JSE only has haste that affects utsusemi recast, i also have a harp, belt for that XD

    and as for regen on hp, peaon V stack IV regens at 15hp a tick for quite a while, lullaby lets me recast utsusemi and both paeon, and considering i have elegy i'm quite sure at most i'll take 1 hit from Roc if i don't bother sleeping him when i lose my last shadow.

    yeah it'll take a while to kill him, but with right gear sword swing from joyeuse hits roc above 100 and ws varies 300-800

    Roc has massacre elegy, but he shouldn't get it off without my shadows up

    oh and if u wanted to know massacry elegy is 50% slow X) i stood there to try

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    prone to error is true, however error of hitting a macro and taking 6 hits b4 realising something is wrong isn't possible for me. maybe ur that shallow u can't stand and fight a mob for hours maybe u don't understand the fun some experiences doing so
    i actually enjoy standing fighting a NM for an hour executing commands and decisions perfectly, its quite a nice feeling, like drinking hot chocolate on a cold night X)
    i solo'd diamond diag which took exactly an hour the prick wouldn't take elegy and kept doing eva down, but slowly and with some kiting for regen at end i managed to kill him, oh yeah he doesn't sleep lol
    i solo'd jelly ring mob in just under an hour as well, that was a very fun fight as i had to pull him away from his spawn and sit between a jelly and ghost, where of course if either had aggro'd i prolly would've died, but it was a very fun fight, and yeah this prick didn't sleep either X)

    it isn't exactly hard to get ppl to go kill things, but then theres no challenge

    heres a nice senario that suits u i think
    person A - /linkshell OMG Leaping Lizzy (Found It!) @ <pos>
    person A - /linkshell EVERYONE COME HERE NOW! i'll kite it while u form an alliance with 12 whm outside healing
    person A - /linkshell u never know those damn lizzy's are vicious
    17 + 12 ppl comes along invites the kiter
    engages
    Dragoon uses jump
    Dragoon hits the Leaping Lizzy for 300 points of damage.
    Dragoon defeats the Leaping Lizzy.
    the 17 + 12 ppl from linkshell
    OMFGWTFBBQ Leaping Boots drop! (All Right!)
    btw why did u call 29 ppl here for him?
    person A - it checked impossible to gauge, better be safe than sorry, btw can i have the boots i found him
    linkshell - free lot (All Right!)
    person A lots 0 for the Leaping Boots
    person A weeps in sorrow.

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    thats such a sad story moggy, i think im gonna cry ;(

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    on the bright side once i won AF2 with a lot of 22 lol and i lotted first, i was so upset when i saw 22, then everyone said congrats moggy and i'm like O.o???
    then 5 secs later on my screen it finally showed up...
    other bard lots 7 for the Bard's Cuff.

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    gratz :3

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    actually i hate leaping lizzy, the mofo killed me 3 times LOL
    once when i started the game, had no idea what NM or what the readings of mobs meant, level 7 war ALL RIGHT! died in 3 hits, of course back then he wasn't really camped i think, cos he was still there when i went back
    2nd time was when i was leveling drg, was level 10 i think cos i jumped him, well he ate me again
    3rd time......omfg he aggro my level 3 blm mule running to jeuno LOL

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