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[Zigma]

any reason why a bst doesnt deserve osode ??

EVERY stat in there helps a bst, except the int.

STR+10
DEX+10
AGI+10
VIT+10
MND+10 (cures)
CHR+30
MP+30


bsts are actually the job that benefit most from an osode.

INT does help bst, it goes with tame.

[NynJa]

STR+10
DEX+10
AGI+10
VIT+10
MND+10 (cures)
CHR+30
MP+30

ROFL ROFL ROFL

blah...typo

INT does help bst, it goes with tame.

So there is not one useless stat for bsts on osode.

[Orfeo]

Technically every stat is useful for every job. Do I really need to post why? O.o

[NynJa]

may I ask how a rng will benefit from: CHR, MP, VIT, INT ??

may I ask how a war will benefit from: CHR, MP, INT, MND ??

may I ask how a mnk will benefit from: CHR, INT ??

may I ask how a sam will benefit from: CHR, MP, MND, INT, AGI ??

may I ask how a nin will benefit from: CHR, MP, MND, VIT ?? (dont tell me vit for tanking, since anything that hits them will own them regardless)

may I ask how a brd will benefit from: STR, DEX, AGI, VIT, INT ??

[Demetrio$]

editedlolz

[Orfeo]

may I ask how a rng will benefit from: CHR, MP, VIT, INT ??

Ok, no clue for chr...or mp, vit for if they do get hit. INT is the resistance of nukes. Like, -magical damage taken.

may I ask how a war will benefit from: CHR, MP, INT, MND ??

WAR can use pretty much every weapon. If for whatever reason we need to use a certain weapon, CHR is a possible mod on that WS (dancing edge is modded by chr, im pretty sure some staff/club are also). MP...ok useless, int...same as above. MND is the resistance of things such as dia.

may I ask how a mnk will benefit from: CHR, INT ??

Yes, the CHR is useless. INT...see above.

may I ask how a nin will benefit from: CHR, MP, MND, VIT

MP and VIT (although i dont think vit is useless for nin, your opinion though) are useless. Many believe that CHR effects emnity on vokes, probably a belief brought on by the fact that koenig has +CHR, but a belief none the less. MND...see above.

may I ask how a brd will benefit from: STR, DEX, AGI, VIT, INT ??

Eh, they probably won't. INT they could benefit from, but meh.

Not saying that the resistances and what not are a just cause to give a job the ososde, just saying every job does benefit from the stats.

[Quicklet]

may I ask how a rng will benefit from: CHR, MP, VIT, INT ??

may I ask how a war will benefit from: CHR, MP, INT, MND ??

may I ask how a mnk will benefit from: CHR, INT ??

may I ask how a sam will benefit from: CHR, MP, MND, INT, AGI ??

may I ask how a nin will benefit from: CHR, MP, MND, VIT ?? (dont tell me vit for tanking, since anything that hits them will own them regardless)

may I ask how a brd will benefit from: STR, DEX, AGI, VIT, INT ??

Saying that "every stat means something to the job" doesn't mean that it's more useful for that job than another. What matters is relative to what you're actually claiming it's "best" for, and what it is you need to achieve the best result. Who cares if you don't get a benefit out of some of the stats on it, the point is whether or not it gets the job done.

[Onizuka]

Only thing nin doesn't get out of the Osode is mp and mnd, chr is needed for hate, try voking with -chr >.>

BST..needing Osode.....well if their was 1 job that could use this armor best it would be bst imo, the only job in the game that fully solo's i think it's great for pretty much everything for bsts, if i was bst i wouldn't ever need to take it off lol 8)

Other than that the way things are done are fine, seniority is always important but not everything.

[Orfeo]

It was actually stated by SE that CHR has no effect on voke at all. It was an official interview and everything, but I have lost the link.

Bring on the elvaan paladins defending their pointy ears!

[Makaze]

I know SE said it doesn't effect it... but in the dunes using a pumpkin lvling nin, voke did just about nothing with -10 chr.

[Septimus]

The next time I bind and gravity an Arch Corse and haul ass to the zone to pull it away from the alliance at Tiamat someone will again have to explain to me that RDM wear Crimson Cuisses just for show.

Or when I do the same thing to a certain scorpion.

(Of course PLD > RDM for Crimson Cuisses, but attendance should be a factor too. And people who think that a LS can not benefit from RDMs with Crimson Cuisses do not have much imagination.)

[Andarvi]

i think septimus should just shut up and kiss me right now.

[Septimus]

i think septimus should just shut up and kiss me right now.

GALKA ONLY!!!!!

[Onizuka]

I know SE said it doesn't effect it... but in the dunes using a pumpkin lvling nin, voke did just about nothing with -10 chr.

Yes any nin knows this..if chr had nothing to do with voke i we would use the danm pumkin from lvl 1-75.... i used it from 20-36 when i duo tanked with another nin or war and shared hate, but even with another tank the -chr was so bad voke was actually usless fully usless so i swtiched to another 3 hour food with agl +5evasion and +27 attack, was nice till i went to sushi but the important thing you have to remember is...

SE ALSO SAID JAPANESE PLAYERS HAVE NO ATVANTAGE IN CONNECTION SPEED/ LATENCY Never belive SE, lies all lies, i don't know why but SE likes to keep secrets.. they just do

[Moggy]

oh carbon got crimson leg abj...
that would explain the 10 cursed cuisess on AH and most likely undercut by a good 50-100k like gauntlets

[SublimeSeven]

[b]The only fair way to do it (and the smart way) regardless of what job you are, is..... Give points for ever sky event. triggers gods ect. So when it comes time when 10 members want the same item... you will just have them bid. Whoever bids the most points wins the item regardless of job. Which in turn prompts more people to attend sky runs ,gods ect. To go into just saying well this job can only lot this time, or you'll be able to lot next week..... is dumb. Have a system. That way noone can get mad when they dont get the item. If they want it they will attend more events so that they can win bid. Simple as that. If this system doesnt work for your LS then find one that does. Anything besides coming up on the spot who can lot and who cant. Just my oppion. Hope it helps

[Onizuka]

[b]The only fair way to do it (and the smart way) regardless of what job you are, is..... Give points for ever sky event. triggers gods ect. So when it comes time when 10 members want the same item... you will just have them bid. Whoever bids the most points wins the item regardless of job. Which in turn prompts more people to attend sky runs ,gods ect. To go into just saying well this job can only lot this time, or you'll be able to lot next week..... is dumb. Have a system. That way noone can get mad when they dont get the item. If they want it they will attend more events so that they can win bid. Simple as that. If this system doesnt work for your LS then find one that does. Anything besides coming up on the spot who can lot and who cant. Just my oppion. Hope it helps

Nice idea, really but...then what happends when a job like drk doesn't get pretty much anything in sky has a shit load of points and gets crimson legs before any plds or rdms in the ls?, then next time a rng gets it then another drk...their would have to be someway to stop this kind of situation but other than that i like you plan alot

[Carbon]

Wow! It seems that I'm pretty popular... all these people talking about me. Hmm... well to be completely honest, what Impressive had to say was 100% false. The events that led up to me getting the legs was COMPLETELY circumstancial. The two PLD in our LS that have been attending sky events were not there. Next in line... we hadn't really discussed it, to be completely honest. Thus, the RDM lot. Now... to disreguard what Impressive had to say... sure, I wanted the legs, but who doesn't? I did not cast my lot until I had affirmation on two things : I was allowed into the party (they invited me to lot after Kirin had been defeated), and I noticed that another RDM in the group had also lotted.

Impressive, I'm sorry but your finals aren't 2 months long. I'm very disappointed that you behaved the way that you did. Not only did you NOT try to solve this in your own LS forums, you had to spread it to others' and whine about it as well...

What happened, happened, and won't happen that way again. We beat Kirin, I'm very happy about that. It was tough, long, but fun as hell. If that's not enough for you... well, I'm sorry.

[Onizuka]

Wow! It seems that I'm pretty popular... all these people talking about me. Hmm... well to be completely honest, what Impressive had to say was 100% false. The events that led up to me getting the legs was COMPLETELY circumstancial. The two PLD in our LS that have been attending sky events were not there. Next in line... we hadn't really discussed it, to be completely honest. Thus, the RDM lot. Now... to disreguard what Impressive had to say... sure, I wanted the legs, but who doesn't? I did not cast my lot until I had affirmation on two things : I was allowed into the party (they invited me to lot after Kirin had been defeated), and I noticed that another RDM in the group had also lotted.

Impressive, I'm sorry but your finals aren't 2 months long. I'm very disappointed that you behaved the way that you did. Not only did you NOT try to solve this in your own LS forums, you had to spread it to others' and whine about it as well...

What happened, happened, and won't happen that way again. We beat Kirin, I'm very happy about that. It was tough, long, but fun as hell. If that's not enough for you... well, I'm sorry.

OWNED






PS: OWNED!

[Raiko]

Btw; 2 mp merits and osode and cassie earring = +50hp for nin, so they can benefit from that.

All that WS modifier crap, only ATK and STR boosts WS power a lot, like steel cyclone, the VIT only boosts your WS' base dmg when using a WS, so its pretty useless when compared to using STR and ATK. Best using hauberk or somethin with STR and ATK.