Gilsellers in Dynamis

[Daahan]

they've never done dynamis before. You guys are letting them learn your dynamis strategies which will allow them to do their own dynamis in the future. The fact that you guys are letting them experience dynamis is already helping them, whether or not they get af2 this time is not important.

6 people Dynamis...hmmmm

[Fira]

they've never done dynamis before. You guys are letting them learn your dynamis strategies which will allow them to do their own dynamis in the future. The fact that you guys are letting them experience dynamis is already helping them, whether or not they get af2 this time is not important.

6 people Dynamis...hmmmm

It only takes 1 to learn strats lol

[Sekkite]

Baseless name calling also decreases your credability. Members of your LS have posted in justification of gil sellers at the very least. And seeing as you don't read my post(See how I clearly stated that all members of Fantaji support and justify gil selling/buying? Yeah, look closer, you'll see how I DIDN'T SAY THAT.), you are loosing even more credability! Let me give you some examples supporting my post, and proving that you are a hypocrite. I am well aware that the majority of your LS have said they don't support gil selling/buying, but there are a few quotes.

Do you guys know the reason for selling gil? Of course not. Have you asked them? ding ding ding answer is no.

I honestly can't tell you whether or not they are gilsellers or whether or not they have stopped their gilselling ways. I just don't know and I have no way to prove it. What I can tell you those is that they have helped our LS members out a great deal with no personal gain to them.

people are getting so mad about the gillsellers apparently gonna monopolise the dynamis drops....but how far do u really think 6 people can get farming dynamis?

[Sinister]

OMFG!!!! Look out all 5 of Sunboy is going to clear dynamis cities and beat Dynamis Lord

[Makochin]

Don't go trying to make up some BS to make me or my LS look bad just because you and your LS dislike us. Your diaper is wet now, go change it.

I'm sure your LS leader thought that associating you guys with gilsellers will not make your LS look bad, but some random person's bs will ruin your ls's reputation.

[Makochin]

i'm guessing that SE has implemented some gilbuyer blockage that limits gilsellers from starting their own dynamis linkshell. And everytime they try to recruit a member into that linkshell a GM will take that member to jail and ban them for 3 days. It's like teaching someone to drive a car and saying that he'll never drive since he doesn't own a car right now.

[Daahan]

Constantly spelling the word "Credibility" wrong also hinders your Credibility Sekkite.

I'm sure people would jump for joy to join a Dynamis LS constructed by people who might be gilsellers.

I'm going to give my final two-cents on the issue.

I didn't attend that Dynamis, nor did I know that they were going to allow Sunboy members to join. Our LS doesn't even attempt to clear Dynamis seeing the fact we don't have the levels to do so yet. We took advantage of free help at no cost to us. Oh noes we did something smart!!!

As of now I'm telling my LS that we should stop doing things with Sunboy mainly because of the fact they are hated so much by other people. Many of you can satisfy yourselves all you want by saying that our LS condones gilbuying/gilselling because we took advantage of an opportunity to farm dynamis and get some of our LS memebers AF2 (gratz to those who got AF2 on that run btw)

The fact of the matter is we don't support gilselling/gilbuying. We just have fun and that's what we have been doing. I guess we are bad people now that we have seen that Sunboy has done nice things to us so we did nice things back to them. Remind me the next time someone compliments my haircut to punch him right in the face.

And I'm done wow 13 pages in one day, does that set a record?

Peace everyone 8)

[Andarvi]

the ends do not justify the means. you sacrificed integrity for some lousy AF2. hope it was worth it.

[Daahan]

the ends do not justify the means. you sacrificed integrity for some lousy AF2. hope it was worth it.

Very interesting rebuttle...I'll have to give that one some thought.

[Sekkite]

Daahan, I'm sorry if me mispelling a single word makes everyone stop believing me.

[Moggy]

how many ppl in sunboy's ls?
ok lemme get this straight, considering they get big enough, 40 gil sellers going to dynamis together

40 ppl, max extenstion 3:30, giving them incredible luck 500 dynamis money in total per run
at their current price, thats around 5m
40 ppl, 3:300, 5m, each person's income per hour /SHOCK 36k ROFLMAO
now getting 500 dynamis money is extreme luck, getting 300 is very skillful + luck, normally u get 100-200

and monopolize? OMGWTFBBQ? reality is they can't enter for another 3 days, so wtf they gonna monopolize?

ppl should really think b4 they speak X)

[Gizmosan]

you took...a group of gilsellers....into dynamis....

some of your members pull zipacna for them saying they "want to watch them wipe" right...

why dont we just hold there hand and walk them through every last frontier in this game so they can become better players and completely ruin the game, even more so than now?

i forget who personally said it, but if anyone actually thinks that they are going to stop selling gil you are gravely mistaken. if they found other jobs, they wouldnt be able to play this game 24/7 like they still do.

wanna do the right thing? screenshot the log next time u see a fucking gilseller say to you "we arent going to sell gil anymore" and send it to a GM. the fact u had the oppurtunity to do so and didnt just provides more evidence for your condoning their actions.

Good Lord why dont you take the time to read something other then Bullshit......... Go ahead and keep posting half ass uninformed replies...

Lets Recap all the Crap you Just wrote here.....

1." why dont we just hold there hand and walk them through every last frontier in this game so they can become better players"

Yes.. they want to Play the Game to Become Better players!

2."and completely ruin the game, even more so than now?"

This part of your statement is an Opinion ... Keep you Idiotic opinions to yourself....

3. i forget who personally said it, but if anyone actually thinks that they are going to stop selling gil you are gravely mistaken.

Yet , Another opinion... Dont speak for anyone But yourself....

4. if they found other jobs, they wouldnt be able to play this game 24/7 like they still do.

Recap you Idiotic Child.....Do a search they are not on ALL the TIME..... They are online as Much as you and ME...... DO THE RESEARCH BEFORE YOU SPEAK SHIT........

5. wanna do the right thing? screenshot the log next time u see a fucking gilseller say to you "we arent going to sell gil anymore" and send it to a GM. the fact u had the oppurtunity to do so and didnt just provides more evidence for your condoning their actions.

Lets ask this Question....we are talking about a game... Now if what your saying isnt complete Crap...that means if one of your friends said hey man I just Baught some gil... Or Hey man I just sold a little gil to pay for my POL bill..... you would say........
GM call " Such and Such has just confessed to buying/selling gil Please ban my friend so he/she learns there lesson".......
Common dont be a fucking Hypocrite.......... We all know someone who has Boted..... SOld gil...... Baught Gil.........MPK'ed all of which are against SE's TOS...And I know for FACT that some of those people are in your very LS.....Would you sacrifice Your friend and be a fucking rat just because some Company thats already overcharging us for a GAME.... Set a bunch of bullshit rules into effect that Idiots Like you Pick and choose Which you would like to apply to yourself and your friends and which should apply to everyone else.........You play along side these people every day...@ this point i dont see a difference between My Friends Sunboy and everyone else on the Server.....Keep being in denial about you and your little group of friends...Keep makeing yourself look like a Dumbass............

Go ahead post your little one line Miss informed posts about something that you know nothing about... keep denying that you and your friends are as guilty as the person accross from you....Everyone is the same... everyone is looking to get ahead... win the battle.... be stronger then the next..... or Maybe you envy them...... maybe you hate the fact that they can sit home all day and make enouph money to live happy..... Maybe you hate the fact that a 6 person party can claim a nm over your 18 person allience..... or maybe this isnt even about the gil sellers maybe you have Me of Fantajii because we managed to get off the ground in such a short time....... ENVY babY!............. EnVY ME........ Envy The person across from you....... Envy the Gil sellers......... Because at some point or another someone will have something you want.... and you will envy them... if even just for a moment......

[Sinister]

This thread really needs to be locked because no one is saying anything usefull now anyways. the only post that actually came from someone with common sence came from arwyn and layoneil.

[Moggy]

as for getting AF2, most jobs at most benefit from 1-3 pieces of AF, and even so only from switching macro's

the real piece that would help someone if they were to sell gil will probably be thf AF2 hands in dynamis-xcarbard, and if gil sellers were competent enough to get there and get the drop i wouldn't be bitching about it

[Andarvi]

i love when they call others "child" and shit. its humerous.

you can disect my post all u want, you took gilsellers to dynamis. say that to yourself and honestly tell me that there is nothing wrong with that.

[Daahan]

how many ppl in sunboy's ls?
ok lemme get this straight, considering they get big enough, 40 gil sellers going to dynamis together

40 ppl, max extenstion 3:30, giving them incredible luck 500 dynamis money in total per run
at their current price, thats around 5m
40 ppl, 3:300, 5m, each person's income per hour /SHOCK 36k ROFLMAO
now getting 500 dynamis money is extreme luck, getting 300 is very skillful + luck, normally u get 100-200

and monopolize? OMGWTFBBQ? reality is they can't enter for another 3 days, so wtf they gonna monopolize?

ppl should really think b4 they speak X)

nice

[Makochin]

you shouldn't help gilsellers period. The amount of help you're giving to them is irrelevent. There are bunch of people trying to stop RMT and you guys are doing the complete opposite. The funny part is even after they helped those gilsellers, some people have the nerve to come here and say they are one of the people that dislike gilsellers and are against RMT. Just stop arguing, you guys have no point to begin with.

[Andarvi]

the whole point of this thread was not to fear the monopolization of dynamis by gilsellers. aside from padded caps, which fucked the economy in their own right, gilselling is todays problem and shows no signs of stopping. the perpetuation of economic problems in this game is due largly to the selling of gil. thus, gilsellers are not a good component of this game. they have no place anywhere, expecially dynamis.

any new experience can only add to the knowledge of a player, making them better even in the smallest way. if you are conciously making yourself a cause of making gilsellers better players, then you are hurting the game too.

[Daahan]

Please refer to posts made by Layoneil and Arwyn.

[Dayooper]

Yeah I guess it is really important to judge people by how they act and not what they do. Hey I'm going to visit prison to see if I can find any nice murderers down there. Who cares if they killed people, all that matters is that they are nice right?

Thanks for supplying me that info .... But if i remember correctly I said base opinions on their Actions not by how they act. Actions mean to act upon. Act means to pretend. Your really stretching on excuses lol. Try reading each post 2-3 times to get the full meaning.