Gilsellers in Dynamis

[Dayooper]

you took...a group of gilsellers....into dynamis....

some of your members pull zipacna for them saying they "want to watch them wipe" right...

why dont we just hold there hand and walk them through every last frontier in this game so they can become better players and completely ruin the game, even more so than now?

i forget who personally said it, but if anyone actually thinks that they are going to stop selling gil you are gravely mistaken. if they found other jobs, they wouldnt be able to play this game 24/7 like they still do.

wanna do the right thing? screenshot the log next time u see a fucking gilseller say to you "we arent going to sell gil anymore" and send it to a GM. the fact u had the oppurtunity to do so and didnt just provides more evidence for your condoning their actions.

Why would we do that? All we'd have to do is say Google Search ...... Dynamis Information .... or hell ...... just give them BG's forums access and get the info from you guys LOL. Point in fact ... they can get it from here . they can get it from anywhere.

[Demetrio$]

Ban UAE and Chinese IP addresses? Not looking to instigate something here because I have both UAE and Chinese friends, but its a known fact that they are the main sources of gilbuying and selling.

[Makochin]

hey, i just lost all of my respect for fantajii ls, how about you?

[Demetrio$]

Was there ever any to begin with?

[Dayooper]

hey, i just lost all of my respect for fantajii ls, how about you? It just took off like some chinese rice rocket.

It's ok we don't care what others think. But still stress clean fair game play. If you don't believe that so be it. You mpk Fantajii we'll just look the other way and laugh at you for stooping down to the lvl of a 5 year old. We won't retaliate. So go ahead you'll just prove our case stronger. Last time i checked this is just a game. And by pulling antics to stop or cause us problems only makes your LS name worse in anyones book. Oh and still is against the ToS of SE. Feel free to remove yourself from the game. Which will most likely mean you'll just buy another account and buy gil to get back where you were before all this started.

Have fun and fair play :D

[Arwyn]

Sorry but I just had to be sarcastic in this post. Every makes their own arguments and opinions, and thats great. But I have to comment on something a certain someone said about rather having RMTers get good gear because then they would RMT less.

*Sarcasm* I Rmt! But if you buy me full set of HQ blessed gear, nobles, serket ring, HQ staves, I promise to stop RMTing.

ok. I had to do it. Bottomline, RMTers will always RMT. There will always be something better or something else someone wants, and those that resort to using their credit card, probably always will.

NOTE: everyone is expressing their views and opinions. Please do not become so petty as to resort to accusations of an ENTIRE ls because a better comment of retaliation could not be thought of. No one likes their LS being generalized and people always complain when it happens to them, yet...they have no problem being a hypocrite and doing it to others.

[Sekkite]

Eh, give Fantaji a break. They helped this thread read the daily quota of drama in an otherwise boring day.

[Daahan]

hey, i just lost all of my respect for fantajii ls, how about you?

Where is that "Care O' Meter" pic when you need it

[Sekkite]

hey, i just lost all of my respect for fantajii ls, how about you?

Where is that "Care O' Meter" pic when you need it

If you didn't care you wouldn't of felt the need to respond to his post.

[Sinister]

NOTE: everyone is expressing their views and opinions. Please do not become so petty as to resort to accusations of an ENTIRE ls because a better comment of retaliation could not be thought of. No one likes their LS being generalized and people always complain when it happens to them, yet...they have no problem being a hypocrite and doing it to others.

[Makochin]

I think that person said getting gilbuyers good gear wouldn't increase RMT, not making it less. If person A buys gil and you give him ex items, it doesn't make him buy more or less gil. But if person B is a gilseller, and you help him become a better player, that person is now capable of selling more gil, hence increase RMT. Theres a difference here. The fact that there are people trying to stop RMT, and there are people who are helping people RMT is making this thread go on and on. Not because whether or not gilsellers have anything to do with inflation. It's just it's common sense for most people that we shouldn't help gilsellers, and here we are having some people arguing otherwise.

[Daahan]

NOTE: everyone is expressing their views and opinions. Please do not become so petty as to resort to accusations of an ENTIRE ls because a better comment of retaliation could not be thought of. No one likes their LS being generalized and people always complain when it happens to them, yet...they have no problem being a hypocrite and doing it to others.

[NynJa]

how many ppl in sunboy's ls?
ok lemme get this straight, considering they get big enough, 40 gil sellers going to dynamis together

40 ppl, max extenstion 3:30, giving them incredible luck 500 dynamis money in total per run
at their current price, thats around 5m
40 ppl, 3:300, 5m, each person's income per hour /SHOCK 36k ROFLMAO
now getting 500 dynamis money is extreme luck, getting 300 is very skillful + luck, normally u get 100-200

and monopolize? OMGWTFBBQ? reality is they can't enter for another 3 days, so wtf they gonna monopolize?

ppl should really think b4 they speak X)

Amemet spawns how often ?? every 2-5 hours, average 3.5
Amemet drops how many skins ?? 1-3, average 2.
Amemet skins costs how much ?? 350k on my server.

On my server, theres a team of GS that camp amemet, its a team of 5 (whm, thf, mnk, sam, bst...for mpking). 5 people make 700k every 3.5 hours. thats 200k / hour. Divide 200k / 5 people...
"each person's income per hour /SHOCK 40k ROFLMAO"



Dynamis however, is luck. I sponsored sandy once, and we had a bad run. We were only in the for about 2 hours. I walked off with FOUR Silverpieces, and about 90 Broncepieces.


and you can bazaar currency for 15-20k out in Rolanberry. Throw it up in your search comment, and some desperate fool will buy it.

[Makochin]

then their members that are against RMT should come out and say, yes, we realize our ls made a mistake by helping gilsellers. It wasn't my decision to make and please don't categorize me with those who help gilsellers. Instead, they came here and started defending the gilsellers saying stuff like, ah they stopped selling gil and now they want to have fun. Or, well, they won't ever clear dynamis on their own, so eventhough we're helping them it won't really make that much of a difference. Or, well, they've never done anything bad to us.

I'm done here, it's pretty obvious who's right and who's wrong. Not much one can do if people are going to bend truths and whatnot.

[Arwyn]

deleted. reasons given in later posts.

[Moggy]

note indeed ur case is a true average

u think they'll get 500 dynamis money a trip?

if they get 100 that 36k divides by 5........omfg thats less than 8k an hour LOL

[Makochin]

actually it would. giving gilbuyers better gear doesn't make them buy more gil. Giving gilsellers better gear help them sell more gil, theres a difference here.

i think the views are somewhat skewed. true, maybe on day ALL the gilsellers will band together and make a dynamis and make gil. SELLING of the gil isnt what increases RMT. its the other way around. RMT is what is increasing the GIL SELLING.

There is nothing that we can do to stop people from buying gil. What we can do is to stop bringing gilsellers to dynamis. It's just how much of an effect you can have on the RMT problem. Just because you can't stop it, doesn't mean you should help it.

[NynJa]

note indeed ur case is a true average

u think they'll get 500 dynamis money a trip?

if they get 100 that 36k divides by 5........omfg thats less than 8k an hour LOL

Page 9

"so lets see
you spend 1 mil to get in dynamis

you walk out with 200k worth of dynamis drops
1 100 piece
and 120 1 pieces

gilsellers sell the 200k dynamis drops for 200k
they sell the 100 piece to the desperate guy for 1.4 mil
they sell the 120 1 pieces for 12k each, 1.44 mil

and they've made 2 mil in 3 hours time.




oh, and this is BEFORE they find out how to clear areas and get 300+ single pieces"

[Arwyn]

deleted. reasons given in later posts.

[Makochin]

What are LS members suppose to do? go into the ls and say "hey everyone. another person is flaming us about something we did. can all those that opposed our action go to the forum and say that they were against it?"

and trying to justify gilsellers actions will do what? You're saying because they can't stop people from flaming, they should make up half-truths about what those gilsellers are like?