So this DRK...

[Elcura]

lol wait till a dedicated drg gets it X)
their rdm's will prolly quit the ls, but then again what use were they if they dun show up to things?

"i'm a rdm who doesn't wanna work as hard as that drk but i want shit that he wants and i want it before him!"

that i think sums up what elcura and hirronimus is trying to say

you still gotta be smart about what jobs gets to use points

u don't have to be very smart to understand this
1. LS uses point system, highest point can get item he wants in exchange for set amount of points
2. Drk in ls has the most point
3. W.abj Head or W.abj Legs drops
4. Drk wants them to rot in his mog safe
5. Under section 1. drk is entitled to get it because he has the highest point


its quite simple, u's are being greedy not the drk, the drk might be being stupid cos he wont' use it, but he's only getting his share of what he wants for the work he put in

You're so stupid, did anyone ever tell you that? Why are you even saying that I don't work hard? You seem to have some undying flame with rdms. So, as a rdm, using the point system, I could (in theory) use my points to lot on adaman body (cause let's face it, a rdm uses adaman body as much as a drk uses crimson head) because i'm the faithful rdm with 100 points while the drk and wars all have 40-60 points. Good. Fucking. Game.
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[Moggy]

sure if ur ls rules doesn't include lotting items u can wear only then yeah why shouldn't u be allowed a adaman body with the most points? who's to say u'll never level drk or war?

[Cohibu]

^^
so the drk got kicked for obeying the system? sounds like a great LS

the DRK didnt get kicked. 3 plds did

[Ambir]

Hmmm....

Did any of the PLDs have any problems with the lotting rules, or did their problems only start when they figured that they were getting screwed?

And did anyone tell the DRK that he could come along to Sky and kill statues, pots and golems for countless hours to get you guys pop items, but that when it came to getting any Abjurations, he could only have the ones that noone else wanted?

Just curious....

[NynJa]

You're so stupid, did anyone ever tell you that? Why are you even saying that I don't work hard? You seem to have some undying flame with rdms. So, as a rdm, using the point system, I could (in theory) use my points to lot on adaman body (cause let's face it, a rdm uses adaman body as much as a drk uses crimson head) because i'm the faithful rdm with 100 points while the drk and wars all have 40-60 points. Good. Fucking. Game.

DRK CAN wear Crimson Mask.
RDM CAN'T wear Adaman Hauberk.

[Kuai]

Point systems work fine when the people in the linkshell are smart and not greedy assholes. Most likely if a drk had the most points in the LS and had no RDM 2ndary job, they probably wouldn't lot on a crimson mask abjuration. If the LS is having a big drama fest over crimson legs i can't wait to see the clusterfuck that will be when a ridill drops for them.

[Marcatil]

Problem though Elcura as you might realize, even in theory, RDM won't lot on something they can't use. IF it is something they CAN use, even if on a different job, it depends. If RDM is the one they seriously focus on, and go to all ends to deck out, they might strain away from other items even for other jobs (unless it's 1) a necessity, and/or 2) ludicrously helpful/powerful).

Reason is this: A half decent RDM will have a handful of equipment, at least a couple staves (Dark, Ice, Wind at minimal), some INT/MND rings, and possibly a few other things. One that take their job more seriously will get every staff and then work up to HQ levels if they have NQ. 2 MP rings and other MP equipment for convert, 2 INT rings, 2 MND rings, and a heaping haul of other equipment that's swapped in/out for various tasks. THEN we add in our screw around equipment (ie. shields, swords, things for skillup/solo, whatever), and frankly, RDMs don't have space for unecessary items. @.@

As previously said: DRK can wear the Crimson set, RDM cannot wear Adaman.

[Elemmire]

you guys should get the facts straight yourself, Stouter and Cohibu... Moadib was kicked for hunting a HNM with another LS... (not really a big deal I think especially since he coulda given us ToD) and the other two were kicked, not because of Maseki, but because of Genna... she really needs to control her temper I think.. she tends to kick outta anger.. And in the LS itself.. no one really bitched.. people were more happy we won and on earthsday than anything really. The DRK got her Crimson Legs.. and she's DAMN happy and greatful to the LS. So LS rules were upheld.. there were no real problems.. and the DRK is gonna continue to help the LS out and do it as much as she can and let people know she's thankful. Only one I think not let back in to the LS by the way were Shiu (cause Maseki didn't see I think.. not entirely sure) and Moadib which I think he should be but that's another story.

[Shiutou]

This thread wasnt meant to get this big, i just wanted opinions of why DRKs should get w.legs over PLD. Kiiro got her item, congratulations to her, i got kicked because "i wasnt happy" and because that noob Zaus was gimp as hell and all he did was beg for gil and i finally told him off. Im done with FFXI now, selling my shit and leaving.

and please lock this thread

[Kiro]

Shame on you for selling your stuff. (I'm assuming that means you're selling your account so some faggot IGE douche can pick it up and screw people over. :D)

[NynJa]

so you're quitting a game because you didnt get your W.Legs


and you had the balls to call that drk greedy...

[Elemmire]

he's not leaving cause of that.. don't jump to conclusions.. he's leaving cause of the bullshit in the game.. frankly.. I'm damn pissed they aren't letting you back in, Shiu... it's pissing me off a lot. You have a right to your opinion.. jesus christ.. and you aren't allowed to quit until I get better earrings :D (inside joke >.>)

[Ominub]

Hmm well yeah bitching about something like this kinda is stupid. But the Drk had every right to lot the item, sure it may help a pld more on kiting HNMs, but other than that is a luxery item. If the person did put all this time into the LS and have all these points, and thats what they want, so be it. You joined the LS and obviously were fine with the lotting rules since you joined. So why even bitch about it. Save up your own damn points and then you can have a chance to lot.

[Cohibu]

he's not leaving cause of that.. don't jump to conclusions.. he's leaving cause of the bullshit in the game.. frankly.. I'm damn pissed they aren't letting you back in, Shiu... it's pissing me off a lot. You have a right to your opinion.. jesus christ.. and you aren't allowed to quit until I get better earrings :D (inside joke >.>)

he sent tells to members in OH asking if he could tryout rofl

[Elcura]

Problem though Elcura as you might realize, even in theory, RDM won't lot on something they can't use. IF it is something they CAN use, even if on a different job, it depends. If RDM is the one they seriously focus on, and go to all ends to deck out, they might strain away from other items even for other jobs (unless it's 1) a necessity, and/or 2) ludicrously helpful/powerful).

Reason is this: A half decent RDM will have a handful of equipment, at least a couple staves (Dark, Ice, Wind at minimal), some INT/MND rings, and possibly a few other things. One that take their job more seriously will get every staff and then work up to HQ levels if they have NQ. 2 MP rings and other MP equipment for convert, 2 INT rings, 2 MND rings, and a heaping haul of other equipment that's swapped in/out for various tasks. THEN we add in our screw around equipment (ie. shields, swords, things for skillup/solo, whatever), and frankly, RDMs don't have space for unecessary items. @.@

As previously said: DRK can wear the Crimson set, RDM cannot wear Adaman.

I know RDM can't wear Adaman gear, but hell, if I have points why can't I lot on it, cause it's just as useful (as in not using at all) as a drk with a crimson mask (gogo poison II!!11) so if they want to let the drk make his crimson mask rot in the mog house, why can't I make the adaman hauberk (abj most likely lol) rot in mine? That's what you get by using the point system WHEN ONLY POINTS COUNT.

Like others said, some deciding needs to go on to decide who gets to use their points on the crimson mask, drk got a rdm 70+? Sure, war got a rdm 70+? go for it! drk wants it to look pretty? gtfo.

Edit: I would say now, I wouldn't mind if anyother job got crimson legs before a rdm if they deserved it more, drg pld rng drk - that's fine, all jobs can benefit from 12% moving speed, it helps when you need to get to fafnir or anyother camp when you don't have a lot of time to do it, couple that with that fact that Kirin is quite killable and drops w. legs semi often and you haven't got much to bitch about seeing as you killed it without w. legs so you can kill again.

[Moggy]

sure if ur ls rules doesn't include lotting items u can wear only then yeah why shouldn't u be allowed a adaman body with the most points? who's to say u'll never level drk or war?

[Elcura]

sure if ur ls rules doesn't include lotting items u can wear only then yeah why shouldn't u be allowed a adaman body with the most points? who's to say u'll never level drk or war?

No. Just, no.

[Moggy]

so u like the idea of not following ls rules?

[Kuai]

so u like the idea of not following ls rules?

following rules to an extent like that is just being a douchebag.

[Moggy]

ur ls on the fafnir thread is going on about how everyone should follow rules, and here other members says they shouldn't follow ls rules if they don't like it, u truely have versitile members to cover every situation don't u's? ^^b