Fafnir, june 15th

[Judah]

the argument is retarded.
my thread says everything thats needed to be said - theres even a "i'm sorry" in there on the first post. the topic has come to name calling. thread end.
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now.

[Akiox]

I'm done here. Talking to people on these forums is getting nowhere. I'm going to go enjoy the game with my friends. Shit like this does nothing but alienates people.

by 'this' are you referring to the thread or the stealing action???

[Makochin]

i'm surprised nobody mpked them and just let them kill it after all that bs.

I'm surprised you didn't think of that when SB took claim of your Despot yet you do Dynamis with them now. Ideas like that will cause problems, not refusal to random especially when no offer for random was shown.

lol, you sure have really good memory, when was this?
It's pretty retarded arguing here after they've already killed it, nothing is going to be changed. Just make sure you guys get a GM watching you guys kill anything in the future

[Heian]

No offense guys and girls but this is tame to the shit that has been going down on Valefor lately. Let me just start by saying the last 2 KBs that have popped in the last 2 weeks were CFH'd. There are certain LS' that are at each others throats. Its not pretty and its not going to get any better.

The person who CFH'd both times is in none of the LS' he did it simply because the first LS who got claim wiped, then stole from the other LS who got second claim afer the first wiped. So yeahits not pretty on Valefor, and I seriously think its only goning to get worse.

I am just sad to see things like this happen.

[Daemonxel]

its at times like this that I am happy that I am on Sylph server ^^b

[Andarvi]

whats up guys! just got home from work, boring day as usual, ya know sellin comps at best buy to idiots and shit =/.

so what happened today anything intersting?

i see...

as if arguing with a guy about his saying a celeron 1.3 and an inegrated graphics card was fine for gaming i thought i had my dose of daily drama.

WRONGO.

[Not Kuno]

No offense guys and girls but this is tame to the shit that has been going down on Valefor lately. Let me just start by saying the last 2 KBs that have popped in the last 2 weeks were CFH'd. There are certain LS' that are at each others throats. Its not pretty and its not going to get any better.

The person who CFH'd both times is in none of the LS' he did it simply because the first LS who got claim wiped, then stole from the other LS who got second claim afer the first wiped. So yeahits not pretty on Valefor, and I seriously think its only goning to get worse.

I am just sad to see things like this happen.

Yup thats exactly what I said earlier. Bahamut has it easy, and the only way to prevent massive MPK and CHF is to work together. I dunno about the other LS but I'd rather be organized and lose the /random then just be gay and steal it from each other.

[Heian]

Well the one LS who stole claim is notorious for doing things like that and just being rude in general to all JP and NA HNMLS' I hate to say they deserved the call for help, but it also screwed my friends LS (the ones who got the second claim, the fair claim) badly though. I just hope things do not escalte to this lvl on Bahumat. My friends LS and the other major NA HNMLS have a /random policy normally but on KB most people go crazy espcially because a JP LS named Sakura had a packet sniff / voke bot strangle hold on it for over a year. Its just sad indeed.

[Marcatil]

Marcantil, seriously, you maybe a nice guy, but stay ta fuck out of this.

Eh, not really nice :D @.@ It just seems like every time someone mentions that LS, the same stuff follows, like beating a dead horse no? Reason for no reply in awhile was Dynamis - Bastok, which, sucked btw. Idiot RDMs who go AFK for 10 minutes should be shot. Got: BST, SMN, SAM, 2 BLM (which we haven't seen in literally 3+ months of Dynamis).

That's fine, you can have that drama with this LS, I have my hands full with shit going on in the Dynamis one now, the leader of it really needs to get a backbone ~.~

[Demetrick]

two pages of no Hokuten flaming?! plz gimmeh it back. Hokuten is and always will be dirty. Wasn't Ramtough in your LS, no moved to Remora?

Maybe that will start putting some gil sellers out of business on our server!

[alim]

Ramtough was in Knights, don't even Begin.

[Yasomarosoma]

lol

[Xavier]

I have my LS, we have enough people for the kill. We've never camped Fafnir, let alone killed it, but this is our first try. Would you extend same courtesy to my LSwho has no prior experience? I highly doubt it that you would show any respect towards us.

What do you call letting UDF and FF in the random without having every killed it before? Random is open to anyone in the zone, with enough people deemed reasonable to kill it at the time, regardless of actual ability to do so. The only time people aren't considered for a random is when they simply do not have the people ready, ie, 3 people in the zone at the time.

[Endo]

I have some questions not directly pertaining to the topic at hand but kind of:

1. How long do you have to be camping in the window to be included in a /random
2. Who claims after the initial claim ls wipes? Or do you just leave it be and escape out then /random
3. Is there some type of initiation process to be deemed worthy to /random? We don't camp them because this drama sucks, but if we decided too does that mean we have to show up at camps for a few days then people will say oh the new guys can random

and last but not least:

5. If the house I am looking at is appraised at 198K, and the seller is selling it for 200K. Why do I still have to bid 4K over the asking price to even have my app considered? Also why does my realtor seem like a prick who care's more about what my wife is wearing instead of my house..... sorry frustration thats all just had to vent.

[Beecher]

Just let the realtor know you make the special sauce Endo.

[Endo]

Just let the realtor know you make the special sauce Endo.

Endo sauce hahahaha. Where you been beech long time no see, its like you vanished

[Demetrio$]

editedlolz

[Beecher]

I stopped playing as much for a while because I wasn't doing so great in my classes, and finishing art projects at 5 am was starting to wear me out D: Only ended up doing crappy in one class so yay I get to keep my the money the school gives me.

[Endo]

I miss our static We should start another and me tank you can be healer sue can be blm and nite can actually lvl his mule. Riva has to still be drg though cause she is so sexay in her armor

[layoneil]

1. How long do you have to be camping in the window to be included in a /random
2. Who claims after the initial claim ls wipes? Or do you just leave it be and escape out then /random
3. Is there some type of initiation process to be deemed worthy to /random? We don't camp them because this drama sucks, but if we decided too does that mean we have to show up at camps for a few days then people will say oh the new guys can random

1. you don't have to be camping at all, as long as you have the necessary people to fight it and begin killing at the time of the wipe of the previous group, you should be included in the random. the onus is on each LS to say they want to random, waiting around for someone to ask is poor leadership.

2. if it's a perfectly peaceful situation where everyone has already decided to random, than nobody should claim it. if there's a lot of confusion, anyone capable of holding it should do so until the confusion is resolved.

3. not really, just make sure to be able to defend your LS' position that if you are in the random you are capable of putting up a fight. a lot of LS have never fought these HNMs before so they don't necessarily have to be expected to win but you have to have at least a decent number of people to put up a good fight.

by defend your position it means if someone says "you can't kill it", you should be able to say "we have a full alliance and enough tanks, etc, etc" in most cases there shouldn't be a huge discussion, this part is just used to rule out the people that want to random and hold with 4-5 people.