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  1. #21
    Hydra
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    so just keep rdm subbed for the occasional heal and nuke? plus fastcast does help my songs to i belive

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    Don't nuke with /RDM or /BLM sub, it's just a waste of MP and a little time.

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    why would you want Fast Cast for a song?

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    Er, I thought RDM only got Fast Cast IV (gained via AF hat), and with the AF2 Tabard (+AF hat), it was Fast Cast V? If I'm mistaken what level is Fast Cast IV (not gained through AF) acquired at? o.o

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    I think it's 55-ish, I could be wrong about having Fast Cast V with Af hat, but meh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mifaco
    why would you want Fast Cast for a song?
    i dunno if rdm require casting bar to finish 100% before they can cast another spell, but a bard doesn't need to, with JSE ring, JSE body songs casts just before bar hits 50% and i can start next song when the bar is around 60%

  8. #27
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    No RDM spell (used conventionally) takes so long that I can plan to cast at 50%, hell, by the time the spell gets to 50% I can see the spell animation go off.

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    I think WHM sub is better than RDM sub in most situations.

    In a normal exp setup I easily have enough time to debuff, get my melee and mages songs off and maybe even toss a couple cures out here and there. /RDM would be alright in this setup, but Fast Cast in my opinion is not really necessary.

    The only parties that I've been in where we were killing so fast I barely have time to get a song or two off were MNK or BLM parties, and in both you NEED a WHM sub. In MNK parties my curagas, paralynas, blindnas, cursnas, etc keep the party going for very high chains. RDM would enable me to get another song or two off before I had to go pull again, but ultimately would cost us exp because it puts more of a strain on the WHM and RDM. In BLM parties it's a lot of the same deal except I need stoneskin/blink to stay alive since they can't get hate off me as quickly as a MNK can.

    The only time I could actually see myself using a /RDM is maybe during gods or Kirin. No matter which party I'm in (WHMs, BLMs, RNGs, kiting, whatever), it seems people run off 1 second before my song is done casting and they end up missing the effect. Now that I think of it, I should lvl RDM just for this reason. :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moggy
    Quote Originally Posted by Mifaco
    why would you want Fast Cast for a song?
    i dunno if rdm require casting bar to finish 100% before they can cast another spell, but a bard doesn't need to, with JSE ring, JSE body songs casts just before bar hits 50% and i can start next song when the bar is around 60%
    Fast Cast makes the spell go off earlier in the casting bar. With AF1 hat and AF2 body, they go off between 45%-50% for me. You can cast before the bar gets to 100%, but there still is a recovery time after you finish casting the spell. (For long casting time spells I think you can start casting again at 80% when you have AF1 hat and AF2 body, but I never really pay all that much attention to it.)

  11. #30
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    reason i would want fast cast on songs is so i can get my buffs up faster. faster buffs = all that much sooner my party can kick even more ass. with me at my current lvl i can get another song off at about 80% minuet and madrigal take a while as does ballad.

  12. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by GundamCloud
    reason i would want fast cast on songs is so i can get my buffs up faster. faster buffs = all that much sooner my party can kick even more ass. with me at my current lvl i can get another song off at about 80% minuet and madrigal take a while as does ballad.
    dunno about u, but in most PT's i keep songs on melee and mages non stop, meaning a faster cast won't do much more than allow me to get in half a swing more on my sword or dagger

    anyway if u were that desperate for fast cast /rdm is nothing, get JSE body + ring and stay in yellow hp below 100 tp, u'll see what fast cast means lol

  13. #32
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    can't get JSE yet lol i'm still low and yeah i keep buffs up nicely but it is nice to be able to take a breather between casting i'm running my hume arse off enough

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