Petty bickering ...

[Octavious]

Heh, my bad on that pic, should a thought about it. Also, I don't think that warrented a direct flaming Mr.DramaQueenIWhineOnMyBlogHowFFXIMakesMeSadAndAng ry ; ; T.T lol. Jeez, take a moment, not like I meant any harm by posting that. It was all in fun, before ya fly off the hook. Thanks

[Sadler]

Octavious, you're fucking oblivious. Keep your stupidity in check. Fucking cracker.

[joft]

why the fuck should the world stop for 37 people dying in London? a thousand times that die about every 2 days from hunger and petty diseases and most of them are children, but they're not in London and no news channels have cameras on them 24/7/365 so we don't stop everything every day all day long to be shocked and horrified by it

[Sadler]

why the fuck should the world stop for 37 people dying in London? a thousand times that die about every 2 days from hunger and petty diseases and most of them are children, but they're not in London and no news channels have cameras on them 24/7/365 so we don't stop everything every day all day long to be shocked and horrified by it

Go clear some snow off your driveway you prick.

[Aerandir]

I have to agree with Joft, what happened in London is truely horrific, but still no more tragic than the thousands of people that die from lack of food and medicine every day in poor, underdeveloped countries.

[Octavious]

Yeah, because people in the US have no idea what it's like the be the victim of a terrorist attack.

Both of you hold valid points, yes it was horrible, as well as the fact many people die daily from poverty and starvation, the world isn't a kind place all the time. I think we should agree to that. =)

[Sadler]

I have to agree with Joft, what happened in London is truely horrific, but still no more tragic than the thousands of people that die from lack of food and medicine every day in poor, underdeveloped countries.

London was the victim of something that both America and England stand highly against. Regardless of how many people died in this incident I thought you guys would feel alil more effected by these attacks.

The so called "Al Qaeda" regime seems to be up and running again and Britain was first on there hitlist for revenge. All your attitude says to me is "IF IT WASNT US WHO GIVES A FUCK".

Also I paid for a ticket at the G8 concert, I bought afew shirts which went all towards helping clear the debt, but what the fuck was you guys doing? Nothing I bet but being E-TARDS sizing up your own fucking opinions.

[Scunsion]

"IF IT WASNT US WHO GIVES A FUCK".

Also I paid for a ticket at the G8 concert, I bought afew shirts which went all towards helping clear the debt, but what the fuck was you guys doing? Nothing I bet but being E-TARDS sizing up your own fucking opinions.

1) I'm pretty sure Joft and Aenarion didn't say that.

2) Buying a shirt does not make you better then them, it doesn't make you care more then them, and the fact that you pointed that out is kinda ridiculous.

[Octavious]

CNN.com On the War in the Middle East:
As of July 15, 2005 / 254 coalition deaths -- 215 Americans, one Australian, four Britons, seven Canadians, three Danes, two French, 16 Germans, two Italians, one Norwegian and three Romanians.

We care about this event, because people from our countries die every day fighting to stop the people causing these events, many have served to make sure these events are put to a stop, so while it may not seem so, we do care.

[Endo]

why the fuck should the world stop for 37 people dying in London? a thousand times that die about every 2 days from hunger and petty diseases and most of them are children, but they're not in London and no news channels have cameras on them 24/7/365 so we don't stop everything every day all day long to be shocked and horrified by it

I guess had we all thought this way during WWII we would either be speaking German or Japanese. To take away the severity of a situation by comparing it to something else and claiming, that because of the equality of the 2 situations that you should not care, is a bit extreme in judgment no? Noone is saying that the world should stop, but people should take notice, and understand that although this time it was London, it very well could be 37 people in your part of the world next time. Compassion for others, where it does not concern you, is one the truest and most genuine feelings in the world, and its hard to express, but when you can you become a more rounded person.

[Sadler]

"IF IT WASNT US WHO GIVES A FUCK".

Also I paid for a ticket at the G8 concert, I bought afew shirts which went all towards helping clear the debt, but what the fuck was you guys doing? Nothing I bet but being E-TARDS sizing up your own fucking opinions.

1) I'm pretty sure Joft and Aenarion didn't say that.

2) Buying a shirt does not make you better then them, it doesn't make you care more then them, and the fact that you pointed that out is kinda ridiculous.

1) Please read or paste what I EXACTLY SAID! I will write it again for you coz it seems not only does selective hearing exist.... but also selective typing or viewing.

"All your attitude says to me is "IF IT WASNT US WHO GIVES A FUCK".


2) If me giving £150 away to there "Kill 3rd world debt" isnt helping them, then I guess im just as bad as the fags sitting at there computer all day being lil rebels.

[Scunsion]

"IF IT WASNT US WHO GIVES A FUCK".

Also I paid for a ticket at the G8 concert, I bought afew shirts which went all towards helping clear the debt, but what the fuck was you guys doing? Nothing I bet but being E-TARDS sizing up your own fucking opinions.

1) I'm pretty sure Joft and Aenarion didn't say that.

2) Buying a shirt does not make you better then them, it doesn't make you care more then them, and the fact that you pointed that out is kinda ridiculous.

1) Please read or paste what I EXACTLY SAID! I will write it again for you coz it seems not only does selective hearing exist.... but also selective typing or viewing.

"All your attitude says to me is "IF IT WASNT US WHO GIVES A FUCK".


2) If me giving £150 away to there "Kill 3rd world debt" isnt helping them, then I guess im just as bad as the fags sitting at there computer all day being lil rebels.

no need to be an asshole, I did read it, and i can say it in a different way if the previous way pissed you off so much. Their attitude nor words didn't say that imo.

and why must you put down the people on these forums, who you obviously must like them or have something in common with them or else you wouldnt be posting here. youre not a hero for buying a shirt give me a break.

[Amarok]

London was the victim of something that both America and England stand highly against. Regardless of how many people died in this incident I thought you guys would feel alil more effected by these attacks.

This is true but the majority of it's population does not agree with the United States decision to deal with it the way we have. All of the sudden after London gets attacked then it suddenly matters to them and they all agree with us. I am pretty positive most of the people from England on this board have more than once belittled America for our actions and our ideas. It seems that your broad, incorrect, and very insulting statement of "IT WASN'T US WHO GIVES A FUCK" is more coming from yourself than America.

Total Deaths
All 9/11 Attacks 3,030 (http://vikingphoenix.com/news/stn/2003/ ... alties.htm)

So don't even fucking say we don't understand nor care what it's like to be the victim of a terrorist attack or that we haven't done our part to help. Just because we didn't but a ticket to some concert doesn't mean we haven't done something else to help. After all, there are far better ways to help people than throwing money at them.

[Aerandir]

I have to agree with Joft, what happened in London is truely horrific, but still no more tragic than the thousands of people that die from lack of food and medicine every day in poor, underdeveloped countries.

London was the victim of something that both America and England stand highly against. Regardless of how many people died in this incident I thought you guys would feel alil more effected by these attacks.

The so called "Al Qaeda" regime seems to be up and running again and Britain was first on there hitlist for revenge. All your attitude says to me is "IF IT WASNT US WHO GIVES A FUCK".

Also I paid for a ticket at the G8 concert, I bought afew shirts which went all towards helping clear the debt, but what the fuck was you guys doing? Nothing I bet but being E-TARDS sizing up your own fucking opinions.

In no way did I intend to imply that I don't care. As I stated in my previous post I do think the attacks on London was horrible. Of course it's hard for me to feel as strongly about it as you do, since it happened in your own country, while my enviorment has remained unaffected by any terrorist attacks.

The point I was trying to make in my post was not that it wasn't tragic, but that it's not any more tragic if 37 people die in a wealthy country than in a underfeveloped country with no cameras and TV stations to document it.There are poverty-stricken countries with civil wars where people die from terrorist actions every day, yet we hardly hear anything about it. In my opinion the lives of the people that die down there are worth just as much as the lives of the citizens of wealthy countries.

I'm not trying to minimize the events that took place in London, for they were truly disgusting, I'm rather trying to emphasize that there are just as wrong, and even worse things happening every day in the world without the majority of the population caring.

[Scunsion]

I hate when people somehow associate challenging an idea as not caring,or a little off topic but, its kinda like when assholes call you unpatriotic and america haters when you simply question the actions of your leaders. bottom line is yes, terrorist attacks suck donkey balls and the assholes behind them should pay. but acting like their single and most tragic events that have ever happened is absurd. everyone remembers and greives on september 11th.....but how many people mourn on the day hiroshima got nuked.....hell how many people know the actual date? the lives lost in that event are insane...why arent we talking about that more?

[Endo]

Well I think the reason that most look at the terrorist attacks in the way we do, is that they transformed not just 1 country's way of dealing with everyday life but basically the whole world took notice. I myself feel the bomb in WWII went against everything that we wrote in the geneva convention as rules of combat, but it was 1 country at war with another country. Solidified good guy and bad guy, where as terrorists have no face or name, and therefor could be that guy next door, and most have shown no remorse for any race, color, or nationality. I am in the military and the day of 9/11 changed the way I served from that day forth. Extra watch's, 72hrs onboard a ship and not leaving the dock, and just in case measures put into place. These terrorist attacks change everyday life for the world everytime one pops off, and hence the national coverage and overt feelings of 'THIS IS SO IMPORTANT". The loss of human life should never be minimized for any reason, but the effect that it has on the mass population will deem the coverage it recieves, sad but true.

[Daahan]

People who come to grasp the concept of Life and Death see what happened in London as something tragic, but they aren't going to linger over it. Saying that we don't care because it didn't happen to us isn't fair. I care because I have 15 family members who live in London, and any one of them could of been on those trains or on the bus. As soon as I heard I called them to up to make sure.

When I first heard about it I was in the coaches lounge while I was coaching, and the TV there is usually turned on to the news. So before I went back out to yell at kids some more, I called them up, made sure everything was fine and moved on.

Joft it right, 37 people, although horribly tragic, is nothing in the face of the amounts of people dying elsewhere. Check out legitamite Arab news chennels to find out how many innocent bystanders are shot in Iraq daily because of the fighting.

The people in London will be mourned and people will move on.

On a side note...Who is I_am_new...It has be baffled.

[layoneil]

1) I'm pretty sure Joft and Aenarion didn't say that.

Aenarion =/= Aerandir

On a side note...Who is I_am_new...It has be baffled.

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[Daahan]

There is no URL on that person's Sig?

[layoneil]

Right Click on the image and click on Properties.