New item list~ i think

[Genosync]

Stop quoting quotes before the quoted quote Nazi comes and nazis your posts. =P

Anyway, you forgot the +8 MAcc and the Conserve MP torque and the Magic Skill capes.

You also forgot your DRG job benefits from a number of things.

I think melee wise, DRK/SAM/DRG benefit way more than enough from that new helm.

[cravy]

Ok, sorry...two things I want. The +axe/+gaxe skill necklace and rare/ex speed belt thingy. I would like the +scythe skill necklace too for the str, but to me it looks like the items are similar to AA earrings.

Also, look at the shit mages get again. +7 MAB? That SMN body? Fast Cast boots? Ya, seems fair to me.

stop crying like a little girl

[Hirronimus]

Orfeo, you're forgetting one thing...

Fortitude Axe Rare/Ex
DMG 64 Delay 504 VIT+7
Virtue Stone Equipped:
Occasionally Attacks Twice
Lvl 73 WAR/DRK

:wink:

[Genosync]

OWNED

[Hirronimus]

Jeez Geno, I'm not posting to "own" anyone, I'm posting in case he missed it. -.-

[Genosync]

He missed so much crap, that I'd like to classify it as (in the words of Teefa) : Ownij.

When I get home I'm going to go get myself one of those new capes. IDFC how long it takes, I want my EleSkill.

[Hirronimus]

You got Sea?

[Genosync]

Gimme about 5 hours, and the answer's yes.

[Hirronimus]

Good. Now get the info on those capes. Me want Altruistic capez!

[Septimus]

The only piece of equipment you RDMs don't benefit from this patch is the Fast Cast boots. There is so much extra mage equipment in this patch to make us pwn that it's ridiculous. You still get all that Skill and MAcc equipment... and the Novio Earring (strange that they're adding a Novia Earring and a Novio Earring -- considering the fact they mean Girlfriend and Boyfriend in Spanish). You get the Conserve MP enchant torque too. You can still use all the Obis in Sea that were there in the last patch.

RDM really didn't screwed.

But the best part is with RDMsj on BLM now, I can cast faster than you with Warlock's Mantle too. ^^;

Look at the specific armor and weapon that I posted. You will notice that they have "Magic Accuracy" and "Fast Cast" on them. I am annoyed because these are supposed to Red Mage traits.

There are now 4 items that enhance Fast Cast, Red Mages are only capable of wearing and getting the benefit from two of them. (And they are both AF pieces.) This means that non Red Mages have access to as much Fast Cast gear as I do- this makes as much sense as Red Mages getting as much +Double Attack gear as Warriors or +Counter gear as Monks or - Avatar Blood Pact time as Summoners.

As for Magical Accuracy, all totaled Red Mages get +12MAcc from out pretty much useless JSE set. After this update most any job has access to +9 MAcc, WHM/BLM/BRD/RNG/NIN/SMN have access to +10MAcc- almost the same amount as Red Mages get.

Of course, the argument will be "Red Mages can get +22 MAcc now", but the point is that something that was once exclusive to Red Mages has been taken from them and given to anyone. That is what I am pissed off about.

[Hirronimus]

Well looking at broader scheme of it, SE always tried to gimp support capability of RDMs. I mean do you really think they would give RDM Haste+ gear to Refresh/Debuff/Cure that much faster? By their standards we are already overpowered.

I still think RDMs got "something" out of it. I can live w/o Fast Cast as long as I get some Skill gear.

[Genosync]

Yes, your job got slightly owned by this update, Sept.

Sorry.

Now I'm off to find my new items that are going to make me a better support job than RDM. </sarcasm>

[Altimus]

hmmm... RDM getting screwed with updates, what's new?

[Zetah]

how are you guys getting screwed?

Enchancing+5, elemental+5, enfeebling+5 capes, with a magic atk+7 earring rdms will use also, along with yet another 2x attack sword.

[Genosync]

You fail to see that no matter what happens, you will always, always be needed because you are one of the game's only two 'support onry' jobs. Any equipment that they can give to any other job will never make them able to match the spells and skills you have access to that no one else has access. No matter what equip they give to another job, they will never be able to make that job match the versatility of a Red Mage.

You have Refresh, Convert, and the ability to stand more damage than a WHM would with Phalanx. You have the ability to land enfeebles on ridiculous mobs and even HNMs. If they give RDMs Cure V back--along with that item that gives Reraise III now--WHM would become effectively useless. If they gave RDM Tier IV spells and BLM Tier V, on most things, BLM would become pointless because Tier V would be nearly unusable b/c no one would be able to keep hate off them.

Jack of all trades--master of none, as has been said before. Just because all these jobs get access to all this equipment that you only had access to, doesn't mean it's going to make you suck and that SE stiffed your job.

[Xavier]

RDM is finished.

[threevo]

instant parties and being the most versatile job in the game isnt enough i guess.

[Xavier]

RDM is finished stop crying.

[Genosync]

LOL

[Raineer]

hmmm... RDM getting screwed with updates, what's new?

wtf? Have you seen this:

Aureole rare (dagger)
DMG:28 Delay:192 Magic Accuracy+8
Lv.75 All Jobs

We get access to a fucking HARPE practically, as well as the +skill capes.

Seriously if you're RDM75 and haven't figured out we're like the most overpowered job there is then you need help. True all we do at gods is spam refresh and debuffs that dont stick, but shit you can drop us into any zone in vana'diel and we can solo our way out (without warp ;p )

I see people whining on every RDM forum today. We also get access to another Joyeuse, true it's only D34 but it's also STR+7... Plus we can equip the new black-belt type item with +6Haste and +atk, what the hell else do you want?