WHM/NIN DD viability...

[Demetrio$]

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[Atreides]

meh, that really only works on EP/TW mobs.

Soloing as a WHM/BLM, the easiest way to not get your MP pool completely raped by actually having to cure yourself is to flash the mob, which on EP/TW mobs will last *just* long enough to get off stoneskin. Even with -10% physical damage taken from a genbus shield, buffered blink hits, and mob debuffs stoneskin won't last all that long, and it's still relatively taxing on your MP.

Phalanx subbed offers arguably more damage reduction which would somewhat extend stoneskin but it wouldn't let you solo much of anything above DC without a lot of luck and yagudo drinks...

IMO soloing WHM/NIN is pretty ideal, we can't take hits very well so the ability to cast blink without expending MP is more than tempting.

edit: reworded, way too much xanax today >_>

[Elcura]

No point talking about it, why not try it out in an EXP PT and tell us how you did, an actual EXP PT, not farming water or killing weaker things for fun and see how you do.

DD WHM, I can see, but a DD BRD... I doubt it, but i'll still laugh at both concepts until someone proves they can work.

[Nirokun!]

I solo EP just fine as a whm/blm, just get a Kinkobo or one of the primate staves (i have kinkobo), use a pamama, and spirit taker until the thing is dead. You shouldnt be burning all your mp (or much more than 100~ish) per fight if you conserve your mp lol

Engage
Paralyze
Dia II
Slow
Blind

Buffs: Haste, Stoneskin (flash, and recast this bitch, if you get interrupted, bind between mob's hits and back up to cast), Blaze Spikes, Aquaveil (not necessary but whatever)

Macro in errant and your mnd gear for spirit taker, then macro it back out lol and you'll be just dandy farming or doing whatever EP or less with no downtime

Anything above EP needs /nin, but i guess /rdm is useful to an extent :3 :D

[Lyramion]

Hexastrike hast just STR modifier and no MND - Elvs are made for it.


Using my Elv WHM/NIN I can solo Spartoi Warriors in King Tomb for 200-240 EXP. Using Morgenstern in main and Kraken in off hand. I capped my club merits (+12 268 cap) and have 2STR merit also. Hexastrike does around 400 - 500 damage to those VT mobs. Doing NI > Ichi then use Flash to pay more time till Utsemi back up.

I my equipment at that time was:

Throwing: Fenrir Stone
Back: That Sandoiran CP mantle 2STR 2MND
Rings: 2 Ruby Rings
Earring: Suppamomimi & Bloodbead
Neck: Light Gorget
Head: Optical
Body: Noble
Hands: AF 1 Hands (5STR)
Legs: Zenith
Boots: AF2 Boots
Belt: Lifebelt


For Genbu our LS usually gets bored so I make a little fun by WHM/DRK and SE LR kraken on it. Record was 350 Hexastrike on him. For Mages Souleater does first damage stoneskin and then damage our HP.


The other solo setup I have now is for WHM/RDM. It circles itself on using Kraken + EN spell and spamming Starlights to keep your MP high. Phalanx is great. Its formula is Enhancing / 7.5 - 10. WHM with maximum skill gets 20 damage off every hit - using AF2 boots 22 damage. Together with Genbu Shield (-10%Physical), Jelly Ring (-5%Physical) & Cheviaut Cape (-5% Phyical) you will be hit for no big damage.

I solod Boreal Tiger with this cause I was bored and Shadowlord on 5-2.

[Daemonxel]

Sure lets make the the WHM a DD, then in the next patch SE can delete the jobs DRG, DRK & MNK seeing on how we don't get many invites now as it is.


person 1: well there is a Mnk seeking
person2: and a DRG
person 3: afk while you decide guys...
person 4: not the drg please...maybe the DRK
person 5 WHM: fuck that guys just get another mage I will DD better then those jobs.

[DeliriumII]

whm chains both ways with light too ;D

[Hirronimus]

I just realized something after reading thread. This update was designed to accomadate Mammy. A WHM on Bahamut server. I heard horror stories of him killing people w/o any difficulty what so ever in Ballista matches. Whatever you do, don't look that Taru in the eyes. o.o

[Octavious]

I got owned by a Elvaan WHM when I went to ballista as my DRG...he was WHM/NIN with 2x Darksteel+1's...it hurt.... O_o, I came back as RDM/NIN and showed him wtf was up though. ELvaan def have dd potential in blessed gear with ninja, all the haste+% makes it sick, my WHM is closing in on blessed, I can't wait to try it...I wonder if i'll like it more then RDM/NIN w/Joyeuse...

[Moggy]

No point talking about it, why not try it out in an EXP PT and tell us how you did, an actual EXP PT, not farming water or killing weaker things for fun and see how you do.

DD WHM, I can see, but a DD BRD... I doubt it, but i'll still laugh at both concepts until someone proves they can work.

i've PT'd many times as brd/nin, but i have no interest PT'ing with elitists, oh yeah i'll never break 1k with my lil dagger on exp mobs, only 50 dmg a normal hit on dagger + sword, 450 (a blau dolce might see better dmg than my gully) average on WS, but hang on O.O i still land my baby song elegy and minuet and get to beat the crap out of a mob without ever being told to fk off and stop meleeing lol

and btw outside manaburn i don't see a point in having a blm for MB, an additional drg doing his lil gimp wheeling thrusts with +126 attck from my minuet should do 700-1000 on exp mob, and with normal hits i see an extra melee more valuable than a blm when my bard exp's with melees

[Aarion]

When soloing anything over EP, whm/nin is the only option, we get hit so hard, that we really have no choice. Whm/drk sounds hot, thanks for that idea. I guess I need to unlock drk now. Whm/rdm in ballista is super hot by the way, very hard to kill.

[Elcura]

No point talking about it, why not try it out in an EXP PT and tell us how you did, an actual EXP PT, not farming water or killing weaker things for fun and see how you do.

DD WHM, I can see, but a DD BRD... I doubt it, but i'll still laugh at both concepts until someone proves they can work.

i've PT'd many times as brd/nin, but i have no interest PT'ing with elitists, oh yeah i'll never break 1k with my lil dagger on exp mobs, only 50 dmg a normal hit on dagger + sword, 450 (a blau dolce might see better dmg than my gully) average on WS, but hang on O.O i still land my baby song elegy and minuet and get to beat the crap out of a mob without ever being told to fk off and stop meleeing lol

and btw outside manaburn i don't see a point in having a blm for MB, an additional drg doing his lil gimp wheeling thrusts with +126 attck from my minuet should do 700-1000 on exp mob, and with normal hits i see an extra melee more valuable than a blm when my bard exp's with melees

This makes... little sense but from what I did understand, melee'ing != viable DD.

I'll say it again, skeptical until shown otherwise, come on people, it's called a screenshot or battlelog at least.

[sekaran]

BLMs are more burst damage than dot.. you won't get chain #6+ without burst damage of some sort.

[Orfeo]

BLMs are more burst damage than dot.. you won't get chain #6+ without burst damage of some sort.

Even pre-75 I was very able to get chain 6+ without a BLM or RNG. At 75 if you get less then chain 6 you suck D:

Yes this has nothing to do with the topic. Quote me and I kill you.

[Lyramion]

If you wanna talk WHM Ballista take a look here

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/jobs.html ... 5022&num=4


There is a reason ppl on my server flee from me >>;

[obnoticus]

Quote me and I kill you.

[Orfeo]

You're dead.

[Nirokun!]

4 WAR 1 WHM 1 RDM

Uleg[tab] Range with rampage spam, best melee PT ever. Poor demons got knocked around every which way :3

[Onizuka]

WHM/DRK SE Hexa.... when i use souleater guillotine(sp?) it takes like 600hp and thats 4 hits....plus im elvaan, what the hell happens to a taru doing a SE 6 hit WS >.> whm's can cure them selfs but will ran out of mp fast if soloing.

I would hate to die from a whm in Ballista...i doubt i would thlough, the whm would be dead as soon as i got 100tp...which should be before he does^^

[Lyramion]

like I wrote above it first takes Stoneskin off - which is around 400 HP strong at 75.

And when you see a DRK activate souleater use FLASH. It sometimes makes Guillotine miss completely (no BS - been done many times )