interesting

[NynJa]

why do you keep bringing up this dynamis thing ??

Do you get some kinda reward for clearing dynamis ??
I dont believe so...your rewards are from the drops.



BLM ZERG Dynamis gets pitiful drops, so please stop bringing this up.

[Janice]

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y179/sekaran/450.jpg

NIN, MNK, RNG, BRD, RDM, BLM PT.

Isn't this a pic of people fighting weak stuff, then going all out for chain 5 on something really strong?

[rahskala]

Anyway, fixing the all BLM BCs does not necessarily require changing the job, but changing the mechanics of the BC itself.
Adjusting damage from -aga spells so it does much less than it does presently when hitting multiple targets.

Another solution would be to make the mobs aggro from a long distance, i.e. outside of spellcasting range. Most of the CoP BC fights are this way already. It doesn't completely stop manaburn tactics, but it's a deterrant.

[sekaran]

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y179/sekaran/450.jpg

NIN, MNK, RNG, BRD, RDM, BLM PT.

Isn't this a pic of people fighting weak stuff, then going all out for chain 5 on something really strong?

Nope.. that's from my static on BLM when we were leveling..

Here's a chain #4:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y179/sekaran/420.jpg

Pugils and Toads are gooooood EXP at 63-65ish if you have a great PT.

Some things I pulled out of the parser I ran:
Experience Chains
EXP Chain #0: 3904 - 25 times, 156.16 average.
EXP Chain #1: 4740 - 25 times, 189.6 average.
EXP Chain #2: 5055 - 25 times, 202.2 average.
EXP Chain #3: 5517 - 25 times, 220.68 average.
EXP Chain #4: 6303 - 23 times, 274.04 average.
EXP Chain #5: 7152 - 21 times, 340.57 average.
EXP Chain #6: 252 - 1 times, 252 average.

Experience Chains
EXP Chain #0: 3357 - 25 times, 134.28 average.
EXP Chain #1: 3822 - 22 times, 173.73 average.
EXP Chain #2: 3634 - 21 times, 173.05 average.
EXP Chain #3: 3985 - 21 times, 189.76 average.
EXP Chain #4: 4328 - 20 times, 216.4 average.
EXP Chain #5: 5889 - 18 times, 327.17 average.
EXP Chain #6: 189 - 1 times, 189 average.

[layoneil]

why do you keep bringing up this dynamis thing ??

because most of this is a discussion of the ability to do things, not the reward for doing them.

[Roree]

Wow a lot of blm haters in here.

Just a few points real fast...

BCNM30 scorpions... woohoo 4-6 blm can kill in one to two casts.... never heard the thf or other person there getting a free claw for nothing complaining. I have died a few times in this bc due to a 10% hp scorpion spamming moves.....

AABC.... lol never tried this nor would I. Just because a blm alliance can kill these mobs shouldnt make people freak. I am sorry but the ability prior to last update for nin or thf to solo serket was far more impressive.

So so far there are 2 bcnms we can do great at outta how many.... 30-40ish? Damn we are Gods.

Manaburn.... YAAAAAAA i get fast xp and high chance of death if i blink... WOOHOO i am god!!! Now back to reality. I was in a WAR WAR RNG RDM BRD BLM party on weapons in sky and we got to chain 16 and with no resting except for potty breaks and such. By far was faster exp than i ever recieved from manaburn. ALso 95% of time i did manaburn zones were already overloaded with xp parties so xp was just a tad more.

As far as SKy and Gods.... hmm last i checked i spam stun and warp2 all the cheap/lazy people back and occasionally land a decent nuke. Also not to mention if i miss a stun and -aga or boom goes of better believe people bitch. Our resits rates are very high on any god or endgame thing for the most part. Kirin for the most part average damage from aeroga3 is 100ish.

So we can excel at two BCNM and can party with our job to exp.... and we stun things and warp people back. Damn..... /em grabs crown.... we are gods




Now more of a serious note. 90% of complaints i see are from people who have no idea what BLM do or have ever went thru 75 levels of it. Whgy do BLM have the highest death rate of any job? Why are BLM the only job that really has to toe the hate line? Guaranteed i die more than melee.... Guaranteed per fight i basically have to enfeeble maybe a nuke then Burst anymore i end up with hate and probably death.

By no means am i saying blm are not powerful but you point out a game where a mage doesnt do more damage than a melee and i will shut it. Mages are always strong yet one or two hits and they are dead. BLm have little problem getting exp parties yet we die more than tanks do on average and for that fact any other job so it balances out.

All of the screenshots in the world will not prove one way or the other. Yes blm can get high damage.... yes melee can just as well. MAgic caps far lower than melee damage and overall melee only really worry about defense and evasion for a mob. They crank up acc and attk and such to hurt or overcome these factors. All the MAB gear in the game still cannot assist us with resists. So gods and such we need elemental skill not MAB once we get the resists out of the way like in EXP party situation we then can really use MAB and then we have fun.

My shell never did the throw 50 blm or 50 rng thing for HNM/GODs we pretty much balance all jobs. Yes i stay in main alliance entire fight normally but it isnt for my damage.... its for stuns.

Anyways... nerf or not i dont really care. I will roll with the punches andlaugh when it gets to the point where Roc kills a full alliance of 75's because all the nerfage.

.... last i checked people picked thier first job for fun not end game content. I like magic... i liked blowing things up..... TADA BLM. Its sure as narf wasnt for being a stun whore in endgame and then warping everyone when done.

[Demetrio$]

editedlolz

[RustyMetal]

If your average Aeroga 3 damage is 100 then you have other problems, I think.

on kirin, thats normal...

[Genosync]

If your average Aeroga 3 damage is 100 then you have other problems, I think.

on kirin, thats normal...

No, no. Average Aeroga III damage is 100 for you only if you suck at life and think you can get away with using the same equip set for every mob.

Use a full EleSkill set (my skill for anything but ice is 327 with my set) and watch the sparks fly. I did ~800 without food for non-resists with an Aeroga III. I'd say I got resisted about 25% of the time.

You know why? Because we actually weakened it to elements.

Only gimp BLM toss Aeroga III on Kirin though. Ones that care about their DMG/MP ratio, use Aero IV.

[Banigaru]

I usually see 600-1000 Aeroga 3 on Kirin ><

[NynJa]

why do you keep bringing up this dynamis thing ??

because most of this is a discussion of the ability to do things, not the reward for doing them.

"Look at me, I can waste 1 mil just to throw my e-peen around".


I still fail to see the point in gloating on doing something that is utterly stupid.

[Siatdiat]

somewhere there is a kid dying of starvation and you guys are going apeshit about SE "might" gimp blms. /cry river

[Hirronimus]

Gotta level BLM to 75 before they nerf that -.- SE is trying to make this game more tedious and less fun day in and day out.

[Sekkite]

Well, I don't have too many complaints about BLM. Sure they are blatently overpowered in almost all situations that matter in the game(involving killing difficult stuff), but they don't take the spot of a melee in many cases, so I don't have much of an argument.

[Squirrels]

if BLM gets nerfed i quit the game and BLMs are overpowered on gods? granted i'm only lvl 72 but a lvl 75 BLM on Kirin does what ~500 dmg Aeroga III MBs? 1k if really lucky or godly gear? now a MNK every 3 minutes if they have decent gear can do 1k+ dmg to gods thats 1K+ DAMAGE EVERY THREE MINUTES which truely outshines BLMs in most occasions...

[sekaran]

You forgot a SMN can do 800+DMG every 45 seconds or so.. and not get a shed of hate too!

[Demetrio$]

editedlolz

[Marcatil]

You forgot a SMN can do 800+DMG every 45 seconds or so.. and not get a shed of hate too!

No apparently they can do over 6000 damage and not get one bit of hate

[Roree]

MY elemental skill hoveer around 330ish. I do AeroIV and AerogaIII and even if a bard or nin weakens it it still get resits along with alot of other people. Yes i can do more and dotn always get resisted but before yoou start saying gimp and stuff take a deep breath and learn to play nice.

And using aeroga as a burst is by far more effective that tier4 but no need to debate with Genosync. For the record 330 elemental plus HQ auster's and such should pretty much be almost the cap and last i checked having 4 changes of clothes for the most part doesnt quite factor in as using same gear for everything but thanks for playing..... have a cookie.


edit due to mister smarty pants below

[Marcatil]

MY elemental skill hoveer around 330ish. I do AeroV and AerogaIII and even if a bard or nin weakens it it still get resits along with alot of other people. Yes i can do more and dotn always get resisted but before yoou start saying gimp and stuff take a deep breath and learn to play nice.

And using aeroga as a burst is by far more effective that tier4 but no need to debate with Genosync. For the record 330 elemental plus HQ auster's and such should pretty much be almost the cap and last i checked having 4 changes of clothes for the most part doesnt quite factor in as using same gear for everything but thanks for playing..... have a cookie.

Damn you hack good if you can do Aero V >.>