SAM Meikyo Shisui Idea

[RustyMetal]

I have indeed watched a samurai do it before.

with or without the use of 2 hour?

if someone did a weapon switch and still managed to SC on time without 2 hour, i really want to know how.

start with 100tp
Meditate -> WS1 -> WS2

Probably have to have AF2 that enhaces mediate?

[Zaris]

You can self chain 2 weapons easy with icarus wing, that much I know.

Also, how does /drg work for TP...?

Surely it can't be jump... unless there was some secret patch that made jumps give 50tp...

I've tried to self-chain a lot of times, and each time I failed because my TP would be at like 99% and my last second would run out before doing the second WS. With jump, one's more then likely to achieve 100%+ for self-chains.

[Elcura]

Come again?

Just how do you manage to get 100tp after WS so fast that you miss out self chaining by a few secs?

Jump is the equivilent to 1 hit, same with High Jump, you still need around 8 more hits to get 100% (2 handed weapon, like 16 more for 1 handed).

[Zaris]

Oh I was refering to self-chaining with meditate only. That's really hard to do, but DRG sub kinda takes it out.

I've only gotten SAM to 37, but I've tried to self-Distortion a lot. Typically, when I have 100% TP for the first weapon skill I wait till my GKT is almost ready to swing, then I Meditate -> Enpi. My TP is at like 12% and builds up another 80% (already lost 20% before Enpi). In this situation, I need to wait for another GKT swing and assuming it lands, I need to hit Enpi really fast or I run out of time to self-Distort. Sometimes either of the two swings I rely on will fail.

My guess is with DRG sub, Jump's TP build will reduce the time you wait to get 100% TP. That was what I meant; sorry to confuse.


EDIT: I've tried Meditating after the first WS, but with the delay of using any job ability after a WS, I don't think it's possible...

[layoneil]

start with 100tp
Meditate -> WS1 -> WS2

Probably have to have AF2 that enhaces mediate?

that precisely doesn't work because you have to change your weapon.

[100] > [14 *from WS*] > [0 *change weapon*] > [20 *M1*] > [40 *M2*] > [54 *GKT hit*] > [74 *M3*] > [94 *M4*] > [114 *M5*]

it's too late to SC after M4 (4th tick of Meditate).

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the SAM/DRG thing is suppose to looks like this (you need SAM AF Head to get 6 ticks on Meditate).

[100] First Weapon Skill
[14 *from WS*] > [34 *M1*] > [48 *Jump*] > [68 *M2*] > [82 *GKT hit*] > [102 *M3*] Second Weapon Skill
[14 *from WS*] > [34 *M4*] > [48 *High Jump*] > [68 *M5*] > [82 *GKT hit*] > [102 *M6*] Third Weapon Skill

[Atreides]

black halo > icarus wing > hexa strike > MB holy = Skull of Envy whm solo challenge!

[Elcura]

I see sendoh, that makes sense.

I thought you meant (war/drk/mnk/thf/etc)/drg, and Zaris I thought you meant /drg as well, not /sam.

[Orfeo]

I have indeed watched a samurai do it before.

with or without the use of 2 hour?

if someone did a weapon switch and still managed to SC on time without 2 hour, i really want to know how.

With two hour, ofcourse. This thread is after all about mei[TAB].

[XaocRamuh]

There's a vid of a SAM doing self-chains in Rolan, posted on KI somewhere. SAM/RNG, mainly just messing around pre-Kasha. This was also pre-RNG patch aswell, and he did not have Impulse. In the vid, he basically just makes a few Lv1 (Compression and Induration), a some Lv2 (Gravitayion, Fusion), and his final try, he made Dark with Polearm and GKatana. He does use 2hr for self-Dark, and he did change his Pentathrust animation to that of Impulse Drive (the chat log still says Penta, so I know that is what us used.), but pre-Kasha, thats pretty cool that he was able to pull it off.

Here is the link to the video, its about 21MB in size.
http://files.filefront.com/Solo_Skil.../fileinfo.html

[Kanjar]

I once partied with a sam who wanted to self-sc during a exp party... In the end he never got it right and he never had TP for skillchains because of that /sigh

As for myself well I never got to lvl sam so I can't talk... but it doesn't seem too hard >.> I always liked the idea of: 100tpmed -> ws -> ws -> wing -> ws -> 2h -> ws -> ws -> ws though but I wouldn't know which ws to do and I'd end up wasting it ._.

[ChOkOmArU]

i ddint read previous post but heres what i did for u sams out there make sure u have 100% tp already ok?

now gekko > yukikaze> gekko> kasha :wink:

[Onizuka]

Perhaps now after patch you could do it with a Soboro Sukehiro(Occasionally attacks 2-3 times) GKT, low damage albeit fast TP.

edit; spelling

I forgot about that GK like sam's need anything more to help them with tp......no love for drk's /sigh

Tactical Ring Rare/EX
Lv.61 DRK Enchantment: TP Regen

Heh i didn't even bother getting it, i was expecting tp regen as a new drk job trait or TP Drain^^ the ring is 20 trys once every 30min, nice but when it's over it's over.

And the GS that attacks 2-3 times not only has the attack of a lvl 20 weapon it's war/pld onry!

Hell i would really want katana's that attack 2-3 times...with my nin DW traits, DA, and 2 katanas that attack 4-6 times together..hmmm none stop hitting

[Septimus]

Heh i didn't even bother getting it, i was expecting tp regen as a new drk job trait or TP Drain^^ the ring is 20 trys once every 30min, nice but when it's over it's over.

Still better than the Red Mage ring. Enchantment: +3 MP while resting. What the hell? It is really worthless considering I have +18 MP while resting from items. Seriously, what were they thinking? What was going on when they pithced that idea? "We can't think of anything useful for RDMs, so they get +MP while resting. They don't need anything like +Enfeebling, +enspell damage, or heaven forbid +refresh duration..." >_<

[Mekhami]

Heh i didn't even bother getting it, i was expecting tp regen as a new drk job trait or TP Drain^^ the ring is 20 trys once every 30min, nice but when it's over it's over.

Still better than the Red Mage ring. Enchantment: +3 MP while resting. What the hell? It is really worthless considering I have +18 MP while resting from items. Seriously, what were they thinking? What was going on when they pithced that idea? "We can't think of anything useful for RDMs, so they get +MP while resting. They don't need anything like +Enfeebling, +enspell damage, or heaven forbid +refresh duration..." >_<

Maybe there's a hidden effect?

[Septimus]

Maybe there's a hidden effect?

Latent effect: Waste 10,000+ gil just to get to the BC for the oppertunity to get this crappy ring.

[Hirronimus]

That's if you're lucky to win the roll on first try and than pay 2k to be ported.

[Russta]

Soboro Sukehiro is incredible. We did a run to get three the other day, one being for a close friend of mine I party with a lot. Unless he gets unlucky with the additional hits not going off he can pull of self level 3 renkeis every three minutes using just meditate.

I suddenly want to level Samurai

[Septimus]

That's if you're lucky to win the roll on first try and than pay 2k to be ported.

That's why it's 10,000+ gil on the hidden effect.

[Onizuka]

Soboro Sukehiro is incredible. We did a run to get three the other day, one being for a close friend of mine I party with a lot. Unless he gets unlucky with the additional hits not going off he can pull of self level 3 renkeis every three minutes using just meditate.

Don't you need 3 WS's to do a self lvl 3 SC with Sam...

[Genosync]

100%TP > WS > Med > Hit 2-3 times > WS quick enough from building to 100 by second Med tick > Hit 2-3 times > WS