DRK merit question: Scythe or Great Sword?

[Mav]

Eh, less DoT cause of no berserk and double attack, and souleater is on a 6 minute timer upon use. With 2-3 people with provoke and at least 2 with utsusemi, I'd think DRK/WAR wouldn't do too bad with that kind of setup.

Drk/war do ALOT less dmg then a DD nin/war or a good war/nin. Drk/nin is really only a good option if you have ridill and use axe main hand to spam rampage.

[Sekkite]

Eh, less DoT cause of no berserk and double attack, and souleater is on a 6 minute timer upon use. With 2-3 people with provoke and at least 2 with utsusemi, I'd think DRK/WAR wouldn't do too bad with that kind of setup.

Drk/war do ALOT less dmg then a DD nin/war or a good war/nin. Drk/nin is really only a good option if you have ridill and use axe main hand to spam rampage.

I gotta call BS on that. A ninja with good DD equip hasn;t really come close to out damaging me in xp parties(at least the ones I've partied with).

[Mav]

I gotta call BS on that. A ninja with good DD equip hasn;t really come close to out damaging me in xp parties(at least the ones I've partied with).

A nin with good DD equip will put more then 50% more dmg then a drk/war will.

[Mav]

Here you go. This is a parcer from a ls xp pt right before the rng nurf. Trephine is a galka rng useing ebow. Twolves is a elvaan ninja useing DD gear. Mistatim is a drk/war with 4/5 adaman. Amara is a pld.

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[Makochin]

that drk's melee acc is the same as the pld.

[Amarok]

I did a PT as DRK/NIN with Ridill, Tabarzin and full Adaman. We had DRK/NIN, WAR/NIN, NIN/WAR and DRK/SAM. My overall melee damage was better than the WAR/NIN and a little less than the NIN/WAR but the WAR/NIN's Rampage owned mine unless I used Souleater so it put his total damage above mine after the whole party. Over all the NIN destroyed everyone in the party. I think I may do better next time when my axe is capped because it was 25 levels undercap in that pt. <_<

[Onizuka]

Cross Reaper has better modifiers at 100%, but Spiral Hell has better mods at 300% (and i'm not talking STR/INT mods either). Same with Spinning Slash and Ground Strike.

Yes i know that but you ever see a drk stalking up on mnd? I hardly ever use Crossreaper, Guillotine ftw!
Ohh and fyi Spinning slash has better Modifiers than Ground Strike at 300%^^

[Sekkite]

Here you go. This is a parcer from a ls xp pt right before the rng nurf. Trephine is a galka rng useing ebow. Twolves is a elvaan ninja useing DD gear. Mistatim is a drk/war with 4/5 adaman. Amara is a pld.

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What food was he using? Did he have any merit points? Did he have decent WS gear? What weapon was he using? What weapon skill was he using?

Same questions for the ninja side too(Disregarding the weapon question. With a critical hit rate like that the weapon choice is pretty obvious).

[Sekkite]

Cross Reaper has better modifiers at 100%, but Spiral Hell has better mods at 300% (and i'm not talking STR/INT mods either). Same with Spinning Slash and Ground Strike.

Yes i know that but you ever see a drk stalking up on mnd? I hardly ever use Crossreaper, Guillotine ftw!
Ohh and fyi Spinning slash has better Modifiers than Ground Strike at 300%^^

The 50% mods on str and int on Ground Strike let it have higher possible damage at 300% then spinning slash. On the high end I've gotten exactly 1.5K damage at 300TP on spinning slash with WS gear and absorbs. With Ground Strike and the same WS gear and same absorbs(int and str), I've gotten over 1.8K damage.

[Mav]

What food was he using? Did he have any merit points? Did he have decent WS gear? What weapon was he using? What weapon skill was he using?

Same questions for the ninja side too(Disregarding the weapon question. With a critical hit rate like that the weapon choice is pretty obvious).

Knowing Tim he was either useing yellow curry or sole sushi. Looking at his acc most likely curry. If you think Full hectacomb and alky braclets are decent WS gear then yea. Tim has 3 merits in str 6 in Sycthe 3 in crit hit, and maxed souleater recast I believe. He was useing death sycthe+1. His weapon skill would be gullotine.

Twolves(was prolly me on his name in that pt) uses Fudo main hand, BCNM 6% crit hit katana in off hand, Panther Mask/emphairpin for ws's, Bomb core, Spike Neckless, Mineut earring, Suppanomimi, Haubergeon+1, dusk gloves/Bandomuha kote durring day/ koga tekko at night, flame rings x2, Forgers mantle, Wearwolf belt, Byakko pants, Fuma sun-ate. Uses sole sushi has 1 merit in str, 6 in katana, 3 in crit hit rate, 3 in enmity, 7 in hp, 3 in ninjitsu, 5 in subtle blow, 3 in evasion. and was useing Blade: Jin.

As far as damage gear goes tim has much better gear for his job. Twolves still needs speedbelt, kirins osode, shura head, panther mask+1 and HQ heroric boots before he can cap out xp pt dmg.

[Sekkite]

....80% accuracy then with full merits with an A+ weapon? What were you fighting?

[Orfeo]

I did a PT as DRK/NIN with Ridill, Tabarzin and full Adaman. We had DRK/NIN, WAR/NIN, NIN/WAR and DRK/SAM. My overall melee damage was better than the WAR/NIN and a little less than the NIN/WAR but the WAR/NIN's Rampage owned mine unless I used Souleater so it put his total damage above mine after the whole party. Over all the NIN destroyed everyone in the party. I think I may do better next time when my axe is capped because it was 25 levels undercap in that pt. <_<

Just a suggestion, don't eat me. You should try swapping tabarzin for a maneater. Both cost about the same (well I think maneater may be about 300k more now) however maneater is much, MUCH better. The latent is active below 100%TP and on weapon skills. Although that seems like it's the same as tabarzin, it comes with a +18ATTK +5ACC latent also. Very nice weapon if you don't want to fork out the cash for a juggernaut/woodvilles.

[Hirronimus]

Mav, why do you have a Taru leech in your PT or was Jom on BRD?

[Mav]

Mav, why do you have a Taru leech in your PT or was Jom on BRD?

Jom was the whm, her dmg shown was from dia II ^^.

[Hirronimus]

lol

[Septimus]

Mav, why do you have a Taru leech in your PT or was Jom on BRD?

Jom was the whm, her dmg shown was from dia II ^^.

That's a whole bunch of Dia II castings.

[Okan]

Mav, why do you have a Taru leech in your PT or was Jom on BRD?

Jom was the whm, her dmg shown was from dia II ^^.

That's a whole bunch of Dia II castings.

WHM might have been casting Banish to lower DEF too.

[Raivyn]

Cross Reaper > Spiral Hell

Cross Reaper 30%str 30%mnd
Spiral Hell 50%str 50%int

You probally have drk af hands by now(your the only drk in your ls i think) The +8int+5dex and i think +5drkmgc pwns i would rather have that than the +9str hands, you need some balance of int with your str.

Go with scythe imo it's already alot stronger than your GS with your earring, might as well make it even stronger. If you like drk/nin though merit sword or axe, i would say sword for when you get a Ridill^^

Actually STR intersects on more planes of modification than int does, so STR > INT for WS

the drk af2 hands would be nice for a drk magic set/macro though.

[Sekkite]

Cross Reaper > Spiral Hell

Cross Reaper 30%str 30%mnd
Spiral Hell 50%str 50%int

You probally have drk af hands by now(your the only drk in your ls i think) The +8int+5dex and i think +5drkmgc pwns i would rather have that than the +9str hands, you need some balance of int with your str.

Go with scythe imo it's already alot stronger than your GS with your earring, might as well make it even stronger. If you like drk/nin though merit sword or axe, i would say sword for when you get a Ridill^^

Actually STR intersects on more planes of modification than int does, so STR > INT for WS

the drk af2 hands would be nice for a drk magic set/macro though.

Of course someone was gonna say that. INT is still a modifier nonetheless, and there is a point where you can have enough strength versus the mob's vitality where it will just have severe diminishing returns. I view it as a 30% modifier is still sizable nonetheless, and with having +40 strength, I can afford a bit of +int.

[Genosync]

Cross Reaper > Spiral Hell

Cross Reaper 30%str 30%mnd
Spiral Hell 50%str 50%int

You probally have drk af hands by now(your the only drk in your ls i think) The +8int+5dex and i think +5drkmgc pwns i would rather have that than the +9str hands, you need some balance of int with your str.

Go with scythe imo it's already alot stronger than your GS with your earring, might as well make it even stronger. If you like drk/nin though merit sword or axe, i would say sword for when you get a Ridill^^

Actually STR intersects on more planes of modification than int does, so STR > INT for WS

the drk af2 hands would be nice for a drk magic set/macro though.

Of course someone was gonna say that. INT is still a modifier nonetheless, and there is a point where you can have enough strength versus the mob's vitality where it will just have severe diminishing returns. I view it as a 30% modifier is still sizable nonetheless, and with having +40 strength, I can afford a bit of +int.

http://www.iluvitar.com/sections/ffxi/s ... lated.html

Wrong. STR is counted as a 100% modifier for every WS, and a 30% modifier extra for Spinning Slash, kthx.