OMG RMT

[Rex]

Wow Nynja... you got your nin to 37 in shitty parties (and from the looks of it, by being a shitty ninja) {congratulations!} you now know everything there is to know about the job, and more than anyone else ever could! Fucktard.

About the poisonga thing, OMG sometimes this thing happens mid-fight where the mob's silence wears off! (yeah, like wtf is the deal with that? You're gonna argue that there must be gimp a rdm in the party, right?) and if the mob chooses to poisonga/diaga/bullshitga when silence wears off, unless it's an elemental spell I doubt your rdm would have enough time to re-silence by the time the spell gets off. Thus you get hit. Thus you have to pay attention constantly.

Other stuff you have to watch out for can vary, if you have 1 shadow left after a wyvern just used a tp move you're fine, but if a tp move is due, having one left can ruin you if it decides to fang rush. If you're fighting crabs you don't have to worry about double attack, if you're fighting blaggers you gotta watch out for triple attack, so if you can spare it based on recast timers, you try to get a few extra shadows up. That's the kind of stuff you have to "anticipate," it's not fucking ESP, it's paying attention to what happens, and knowing the shit that you're fighting. Ninja tanking on ichi is not ninja tanking. You know nothing about the job (obviously) and you're not gonna win any arguments here, so just get over yourself.

[Totien]

NynJa reminds me of this kid.

[NynJa]

Wow Nynja... you got your nin to 37 in shitty parties (and from the looks of it, by being a shitty ninja) {congratulations!} you now know everything there is to know about the job, and more than anyone else ever could! Fucktard.

I guess 4k/h at lv33 is bad...my appologies D:

About the poisonga thing, OMG sometimes this thing happens mid-fight where the mob's silence wears off! (yeah, like wtf is the deal with that? You're gonna argue that there must be gimp a rdm in the party, right?) and if the mob chooses to poisonga/diaga/bullshitga when silence wears off, unless it's an elemental spell I doubt your rdm would have enough time to re-silence by the time the spell gets off. Thus you get hit. Thus you have to pay attention constantly.

Then I deal with it. Its funny how many times this has been turned around.
First it was mage mobs that dont get silenced at all. Next it was mage mobs that cast on my puller. Now, when I've defiled all situations, its mage mobs that have their silence wear off and cast.
Well guess what. I'm all good, because I have my ESP hacks, so I know when the silence that I did not cast is about to wear off.
And if I forgot to turn my hacks on, I'll DEAL WITH IT.

Other stuff you have to watch out for can vary, if you have 1 shadow left after a wyvern just used a tp move you're fine, but if a tp move is due, having one left can ruin you if it decides to fang rush. If you're fighting crabs you don't have to worry about double attack, if you're fighting blaggers you gotta watch out for triple attack, so if you can spare it based on recast timers, you try to get a few extra shadows up. That's the kind of stuff you have to "anticipate," it's not fucking ESP, it's paying attention to what happens, and knowing the shit that you're fighting. Ninja tanking on ichi is not ninja tanking. You know nothing about the job (obviously) and you're not gonna win any arguments here, so just get over yourself.

People actually XP on blaggers ??
Why the fuck would you do that ?? 3 evasion bonus traits {Please check it.}


Lol guy, I could get nin to 75 with my eyes practically closed. If I can get thf up to 75, I can get anything cept drg to 75.

[Totien]

Lol guy, I could get nin to 75 with my eyes practically closed.

Only then will you have earned the right to talk as much shit as you do. Until then, stfu gtfo kthxbye.

[NynJa]

Lol guy, I could get nin to 75 with my eyes practically closed.

Only then will you have earned the right to talk as much shit as you do. Until then, stfu gtfo kthxbye.

Its not on my list of priorities.

I've allready got my useful HNM job (BLM). I've allready got my all around job (THF). Next up is my smashy smashy job (MNK or WAR, havent decided yet).



Leveling a 2nd rate tank job isn't up on my priority list.

[Onizuka]

Leveling a 2nd rate tank job isn't up on my priority list.

Okay then STFU..... Nin is not a second rate tank just because you where the worst ninja to ever get the job to 37, doesn't make you a tank, does not make Ninjas a second rate tank, it just makes you a second rate player

[Darm]

I think he's faking being an oblivious retard to laugh at your responses.

[Zetah]

I guess -40%, -50% with a Defending Ring along with taking no damage for numerous periods of time and 30 enmity along with a significant less amount of TP gain for the monster makes ninja secondrate. ^^

[NynJa]

what's -40% from 700 ?? somewhere around 400, which is still more than what pld's take. Except pld's can hold hate, not have shit run around (except of course when the nin gets everyone to TA on them).

[Raineer]

I'm not taking sides, but our PLD takes like 180 normal hits from Tiamat. Once he goes apeshit at 10% then the double-crits get annoying but we tank PLD/WAR with no issues at all.

[Endo]

Depends, are you the dude or the chick in that avatar.

The dude, but he has huge breasts and a sweet accent

[Onizuka]

what's -40% from 700 ?? somewhere around 400, which is still more than what pld's take. Except pld's can hold hate, not have shit run around (except of course when the nin gets everyone to TA on them).

700+ what are you fighing? SSJ4 Vrtra???

A decked out nin can take about the same dmg as a pld but nin can just avoid being hit all together.... Thing is you talk about TA when you yourself are a thf...dumbest thf ever but still a thf. Thfs job is to SATA like a whm's is to cure have a nin tank without TA and have a pld tank without cures and we see who will last the longest

I pted with pld's and nins both have their good points but i can take hate from any without as much as a sweat. Saying pld keeps hate better than nin is like saying nin take dmg better than pld both are true and that's what makes them unique. Pld keeps hate best Nin can take dmg and evade dmg better than any other job.

[NynJa]

well nins get hit for around 400 dmg with that 40% dmg reduction.
you take 700, subtract 40%, and you get 420.

I dont believe my math is incorrect.


oh, and a big lollerskates for saying nin can tank w/out cures.







oh, and about straight up evasion, thf blows nin out the fucking water.
A+ Evasion + 3 Evasion Bonus traits > A- Evasion + 0 evasion bonus traits.

[Anderian]

well nins get hit for around 400 dmg with that 40% dmg reduction.
you take 700, subtract 40%, and you get 420.

I dont believe my math is incorrect.


oh, and a big lollerskates for saying nin can tank w/out cures.







oh, and about straight up evasion, thf blows nin out the fucking water.
A+ Evasion + 3 Evasion Bonus traits > A- Evasion + 0 evasion bonus traits.

But can THF... tank?
Seriously though. Ninja's can pretty much tank without cures in exp party if they are gewd. ^_^
Somebody said sometime ago that NINs and PLDs both excel at diffrent kinda mobs. So... they are both good.

[Russta]

oh, and about straight up evasion, thf blows nin out the fucking water.
A+ Evasion + 3 Evasion Bonus traits > A- Evasion + 0 evasion bonus traits.

You should factor in Kurayami.

[Raineer]

oh, and about straight up evasion, thf blows nin out the fucking water.
A+ Evasion + 3 Evasion Bonus traits > A- Evasion + 0 evasion bonus traits.

You should factor in Kurayami.

Yeah, but it doesn't really make up for the gigantic difference. Plus THF can use Blind Bolts, not as strong i'm sure but it's another factor.

[Russta]

oh, and about straight up evasion, thf blows nin out the fucking water.
A+ Evasion + 3 Evasion Bonus traits > A- Evasion + 0 evasion bonus traits.

You should factor in Kurayami.

Yeah, but it doesn't really make up for the gigantic difference. Plus THF can use Blind Bolts, not as strong i'm sure but it's another factor.

Sadly I can't speak from personal experience but I had a good friend that quit (he was THF75 then NIN75) say "Kurayami>Thief's extra evasion" in Uggalepih once and knowing how good Kurayami is I accept that. I guess we could enter TP gain into the equation but it seems pointless to make a long drawn out discussion that will result in a flame war.

Oh wait this is BG.

[Raineer]

Sadly I can't speak from personal experience but I had a good friend that quit (he was THF75 then NIN75) say "Kurayami>Thief's extra evasion" in Uggalepih once and knowing how good Kurayami is I accept that. I guess we could enter TP gain into the equation but it seems pointless to make a long drawn out discussion that will result in a flame war.

Oh wait this is BG.

Nah no reason to make it a flame war. My good Ninja friend told me that NIN/THF with kurayami couldn't come close to a THF/x with their passive evasion traits, so I believed that. He did not actually have NIN75 and THF75 so wasn't a solid way to compare the two.

[aurik]

If you're going to factor in Kurayami, you might as well factor in Jubaku and Hojo as well, and possibly the fact that solo battles will take 4 times as long with thf damage, which means you have 4 times as long to make a (fatal) mistake.

Wait, what are we talking about? Which class is a better tank?

[layoneil]

missing the point.

the most important factor is TH4 because when you kill the thing on NIN and it doesn't drop nothing else matters.