Let the Truth be Told

[Endo]

I was not going to post this but fuck it everyone else did so I am going to say this. No matter the reason why she was kicked from BG, no matter if Tony gets his gear back, and no matter what is morally right or wrong about the people who left (yeah that was the original topic) noone has the right to attack anyone's rl. Especially with things I am sure were told in confidence. I keep friends close and there are certain things I allow people to know other things I don't. If you ask anyone who has ever told me when they have done wrong, right, or rl situations, it has always been kept as a conversation between me and that person. Probably why I can go with other ls to sky to help them and get a pearl for the duration of the fight with no worries. Friendship and trust > any item or amount of money you can get in game or even in life. I did that study for my hw last week and this is one of the topics, knowing when to turn off the game. Well attacking someones rl over an in game issue is definatly not turning off the game.

Wish Scun had a respect o meter because its at zero tony. I apologize and you know I am a good person, but to do what you did in anger (I am sure) was uncalled for and exactly what a kid would do. You are a good person and a mature person from what I have ever known of you. Swallowing pride and knowing when to apologize and turn off the anger defines a man over a boy. Stick to the facts as you have always done and you have a legitimate argument, but when you throw accusations and make people feel small you turn into the people you hate(this includes duping and the RMTony thing).

For the rest of you guys, I am not sure when all this drama started and why its a big deal to help another person in game. This game was designed for a community to help each other (hence exp grind with 6 people) and a long time ago thats what we all did. Shit A BG member sending me a tell when we did a kirin saying "Your gonna wipe if you do it that way, maybe you can try this" meant more then what we got from kirin. Claiming behemoth and getting tells saying congrats (even though it was NQ, and did not drop shit) people from PoS, BG, SB, Knights, and a few members from Hokuten said congrats that made the game enjoyable not the 30 second fix of fighting the mob. That is what defines a community is the teamwork it can develop between diffrent people. Until the NA community can put aside its diffrence's and stop kicking each other when we are down not too much is going to be accomplished as a whole, but instead only a few individuals live the glory. That may sound good to some of you but its a cooler screenshot with 100 people accomplishing something instead of 30. Yesterday was a lot of fun for me (those who were in the party know what I mean) and it was not because of 1337 exp it was because it was a well working group of people who were working twds a goal together. I apologize for the rant, and no I am no better then anyone and I dont think that, I just dont like to see people hurting each other especially in a game.

/em gets off his taru soap box

[Buruberi]

Transferring and dropping out are two completely different things.

[Icespike]

All i have to say... join Kazoku LS= bitch time, u leave, the cheap shots of ur rl get posted on the forums...i would warn anyone to join that ls now...befor, i respected it, i respected the ldr...and for those that i brought into that ls...i am deeply sry, pls forgive me

[Hirronimus]

/em packs Endo away into the soap box and carries him away.

Nicely done Taru!

[berticus]

by the way, i was bored in the 3 hour waiting room last friday right after a conversation with ondori about namie & how she was kicked. knowing she was to be kicked, when she asked why was at the doctor i replied w/ a lie that i was at a head doctor, basically to vent and make her feel guilty for fucking with me so much. (this venting ended here, btw) obviously she told you.

Perhaps you should really see a shrink or seek professional help because you are too engrossed into this fantasy virtual world that it is clearly affecting your RL. Wait you already do..

[removed broken link]

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/drug ... 82640.html

cough medicine
retard.

[Smasharoo]

I went to duke for 1 semester and dropped out of school for going on two years. Donut move to California after Duke lozl or you will enjoy urself too much and nevar want to go 2 liek skool again lozl.

I assume (perhaps incorrectly) that you are from the east coast?

As a fellow HOOOOMAN you should wish berticus all the best in real life and keep whatever squabbles you have in the game in the game.

ps: Berticus cybored with ur rl gf lozl + called her.

[Andarvi]

im curious, what school within the top 15 in the nation did tony get into? shit just getting into duke is a relfection within itself. and the fact that he admits like a man that it was more than he was ready for shows how the maturity lvl between the two parties arguing here is extremely polarized.

tony making it personal and berticus taking it like a man makes tony look like a faggot :D

[Amarok]

andarvi I love you and gogodavi

[Smasharoo]

im curious, what school within the top 15 in the nation did tony get into? shit just getting into duke is a relfection within itself. and the fact that he admits like a man that it was more than he was ready for shows how the maturity lvl between the two parties arguing here is extremely polarized.

Could i possible interpret that as a . . . . .compliment (although unintentional?)


Fuck andarvi im glad we could be friends see u around!

[Andarvi]

lol smasharoo your name sounds like dunkaroo and i love dunkaroos thus i guess i love you.

amarok i want u in just your blacksmithing apron at my dorm asap, fucking sexy ass beast.

edit: that compliment was as blatant as it looks.

[Jason]

Don't attack at ppl's personally life tony that's 2 strikes now... (1 on bert, 1 for bringing me into this when i said nothing wrong) 1 more and i'll do it...

[Tonyanjaii]

Endonotme - you are absolutely correct it was wrong of me to lower myself to Berticus lvl and attack his RL issues. I apologize to Berticus for what I said was out of hand and was uncalled for. May it had been done out of anger or what not, I am apologizing.

In my original post I had requested that these 3 individuals return their items given to them from the linkshell, instead I get stupid flames and Berticus giving me reasons for them to keep the items.

Then I realized it wasn't about what was morally right anymore, I realized Berticus decisions were based on how he felt about Namie and I and took this matter to a different level. He doesn't care that they took the items and left, if anything I'm sure he's glad that they did. And now making accusations and name calling "RMTony" "Duping balh blah" trying to slander my name in despite.

Berticus let his emotions get to him, hell he even posted about the entire situation on the front page news, which was totally uncalled for, hell bringing out Namie into this has nothing to do with the 3 individuals and me trying to get the items back. Saying that I was getting off topic? Look at what you are doing Berticus. This is not even about the items anymore, this is more about revenge.


According to your conversation with Namie via MSN, you clearly did state that you were losing it, having an emotional break down, etc due to a video game dilenma. From what I can read from that conversation, it was mostly you talking and being upset, Namie was calm and tried to talk to you, as a friend. She even offered to phone you or did call, but you didnt pick up. She even said she wanted to talk to you, non game related. But you still refused because you let your emotions and the actions from a game get to you.

I am not here trying to insult you or BG anymore, and realize this topic was pointless. All it did was cause stupid drama and now we are all bitter and angry. Let it be me, for everyone to discredit, feel free to talk shit about me, I can deal with it, but please don't bring other people that has nothing to do with the situation and ruin their reputation. Call me RMT, call me a duper, call me whatever a shithead, call me whatever, do it to me and not to others.

[ciechi]

http://img317.imageshack.us/img317/7...hingyou1zx.jpg

[berticus]

the reason for ignoring whether ziddan/kailyn/icespike give items back is that your rule is retarded and meaningless.

calling it even for what you and namie did to bg is a peripheral reason.

stable, lmfao. you're just making this worse for namie. i've already openly admitted i was fooled by her. why? she cried to me on the phone and swore on her life that she wasnt lying (yet she was). she played the victim very well and did a nice job on me to keep me from kicking her. all my friends in my LS were telling me to kick her and she was going nuts emotionally, which i opened up to, wrongfully.

emotional breakdown? i think not. sad because of the betrayal? guess so. ever been used? that's what happened.

[Tonyanjaii]

I've dropped it, why can't you?

[berticus]

Endonotme - you are absolutely correct it was wrong of me to lower myself to Berticus lvl and attack his RL issues. I apologize to Berticus for what I said was out of hand and was uncalled for. May it had been done out of anger or what not, I am apologizing.

In my original post I had requested that these 3 individuals return their items given to them from the linkshell, instead I get stupid flames and Berticus giving me reasons for them to keep the items.

Then I realized it wasn't about what was morally right anymore, I realized Berticus decisions were based on how he felt about Namie and I and took this matter to a different level. He doesn't care that they took the items and left, if anything I'm sure he's glad that they did. And now making accusations and name calling "RMTony" "Duping balh blah" trying to slander my name in despite.

Berticus let his emotions get to him, hell he even posted about the entire situation on the front page news, which was totally uncalled for, hell bringing out Namie into this has nothing to do with the 3 individuals and me trying to get the items back. Saying that I was getting off topic? Look at what you are doing Berticus. This is not even about the items anymore, this is more about revenge.


According to your conversation with Namie via MSN, you clearly did state that you were losing it, having an emotional break down, etc due to a video game dilenma. From what I can read from that conversation, it was mostly you talking and being upset, Namie was calm and tried to talk to you, as a friend. She even offered to phone you or did call, but you didnt pick up. She even said she wanted to talk to you, non game related. But you still refused because you let your emotions and the actions from a game get to you.

I am not here trying to insult you or BG anymore, and realize this topic was pointless. All it did was cause stupid drama and now we are all bitter and angry. Let it be me, for everyone to discredit, feel free to talk shit about me, I can deal with it, but please don't bring other people that has nothing to do with the situation and ruin their reputation. Call me RMT, call me a duper, call me whatever a shithead, call me whatever, do it to me and not to others.

is not dropping it

[Andarvi]

fucking jeff goldblum lol. so great ciechi.

[layoneil]

don't make this out to be Bert using Namie's situation to force your hand.

i've been nothing but on topic long before the Namie thing came out. i've never mixed the two topics (your LS items, Namie being kicked from BG).

you've simply never provided answers to my questions here:
http://www.theorderls.com/phpBB2/viewto ... &start=246

a lot of BG members were in the camp that they should return their items until you failed to communicate with us what we wanted to know. a lot of our members read the forums but don't reply, a lot of their opinions have changed because you failed to reply, it's got nothing to do with Namie, so stop trying to play that sympathy card.

[Tonyanjaii]

don't make this out to be Bert using Namie's situation to force your hand.

i've been nothing but on topic long before the Namie thing came out. i've never mixed the two topics (your LS items, Namie being kicked from BG).

you've simply never provided answers to my questions here:
http://www.theorderls.com/phpBB2/viewto ... &start=246

a lot of BG members were in the camp that they should return their items until you failed to communicate with us what we wanted to know. a lot of our members read the forums but don't reply, a lot of their opinions have changed because you failed to reply, it's got nothing to do with Namie, so stop trying to play that sympathy card.

No one in my Linkshell has deemed the claused stated as they have always abandon the linkshell before the opportunity was given to them.

[berticus]

ok, lets just pretend youre not lying and look at what you just said

an unachievable standard makes the rule meaningless so much so that nobody in your LS has "earned" anything in the time you've been around/been doing NMs. its going to be ignored by us & the people with the items, plain and simple.