Questions about Hrotti.

[berticus]

yes it's clear, but you are wrong, because i dont think my opinion should matter anymore than any other single player. there's arguments like "most people eventually progress to 75 so designing content for them is smarter than consumable low content" but even with those aside, all i ask for is equal focus, and not to be placed on the back burner.

you have an "elitist prick" complex that i dont understand but which makes it really clear why you were banned before

[Lockecole]

People who look down upon others who don't have the same time to input into camping anything worthwhile imo are elitist pricks who ruin end-game content or lack thereof for those who don't have the same outlook on afore mentioned situation.

I don't think this has to do with having the same time to input. The OP at hand does sky. Sky is pretty damn time-consuming. Even though it is very productive and rewarding it probably takes more constant attention for an extended period of time then any area in the game does. I don't see how you can compare sky, and sitting in one spot for a max of 3hours, only to have to go back at the most 7 times to claim for 30 seconds... and say that the person doing sky doesnt have more free time.

It's how he wants to use his time, not the amount of time he spends on this game that is the issue here. Just as he wouldnt be camping ground Kings and expecting to just buy sky drops, neither should the opposite be true.

Thier attitudes make an already frustration filled environment even less enjoyable. That clear?

Soo... the elitist are the issue here? You sure it's not the people buying items from the monopolizing JP HNMLSes, keeping them at the kings, and giving them reasons to stay and continue to camp because of the shear profit they can make off of RA/EX items? And in turn making it worse for the people like the OP, because of actions like buying a Hrotti will only further guarantee there will never be a chance to claim/kill Fafnir, and in turn just adding fuel to the fire that you proclaim to wish to extinguish.

[Member #63]

I'm sure you understand that to SE we as cosumers are nothing than cash cows and as such their marketing outlook is to keep milking as as long as possible. If the fee for playing this game was an anual subscription, than perhaps they would consider end-game material as more viable driving force in designing the gameplay, but it isn't. That's why this game screams "time-sink".

It's more of a "anti-elitist prick" complex, and hardly can be considered complex to begin with. In same sense the people in my eyes I consider elitist pricks have the "anti-noob" complex which makes elitist, wouldn't you say? It all comes down to a simple fact. Live and let live.

I've congratulated my share of people on their accomplishments. There's entire thread explaining why I was banned, but all you did was strip away my original name. 24 g'damn pages long. lol

[Member #63]

I don't think this has to do with having the same time to input. The OP at hand does sky. Sky is pretty damn time-consuming. Even though it is very productive and rewarding it probably takes more constant attention for an extended period of time then any area in the game does. I don't see how you can compare sky, and sitting in one spot for a max of 3hours, only to have to go back at the most 7 times to claim for 30 seconds... and say that the person doing sky doesnt have more free time.

I was refering in this instance to King camps. Case by case basis imo.

[berticus]

i prefer to try to work for change when i believe in something enough rather than just accept it

if i were to ever give up and accept the way ffxi is now i'd just quit and play wow

[Member #63]

Don't get me wrong. I'm hopeful too, but you of all people know SE's track record and the attitude exhibited by their customer service.

I wrote my share of suggestions and complaints to the dev team and have spoken with CSR countless times, but when there's little to no actions taken in regards to issues, one can only try to make the best he/she can of his current situation.

[Xavier]

i'd just play wow

amen

[Okan]

No, you misunderstood what I was trying to convey in my post. People who look down upon others who don't have the same time to input into camping anything worthwhile imo are elitist pricks who ruin end-game content or lack thereof for those who don't have the same outlook on afore mentioned situation. Thier attitudes make an already frustration filled environment even less enjoyable. That clear?

I have to agree with Hirro here. Certain people think they're just better because of certain things.. Be it they killed XXX first or they obtained item/weapon/armor. They become pricks.

What I was saying earlier.. I don't want Adaman Hauberk and Ridill just given to me. Yes, let me earn it, but don't make me have to camp a heavily botted HNM on unicorn, pray that we get the 6-7 other ridills (For the WARs in the LS) then let me have on. Add in alternate ways. Don't change Fafnir's difficulty in the BC. Leave him exactly as he is. Except at the 1hr mark, don't give him rage, stop the BC. Same drops, etc. Give people a chance at obtaining these.

[Ragnard]

Since the company that I work for has an incredibly good track record of polling its customers and meeting the demands and needs of the consumers, let me just share a few things. People bitch about SE and endgame content a lot, but I think that as a company, SE is making intelligent decisions about product development.

1. You may read this adage as a copout, but you can't please 100% of the people, 100% of the time. Take that as you will. A good company will take feedback from its customers and from the market, and then attempt to make their products (current or future) address as many needs as possible.

2. There's a huge statistical spread of the content that's desired by the ffxi community. Seeing forums like these and then thinking that everyone out there wants "endgame" content is misguided; only a very small percentage of the community likes to HNM. 150 people in a packed dragonaery that are playing or idle for 20 hours per day do not constitute a large portion of the 2000-player server population, most of whom are not on for 20 hours per day. We're talking maybe5% of the people who play FFXI being actively interested in HNM. If SE can release content that pleases 95% of players, from a business point of view, letting a die-hard 5% remain unsatisfied is ok because a) they'll keep buying the product anyway and b) 5% is an acceptable number to disregard if you're doing a good job with the other 95%.

3. Businesses don't listen to individuals. Businesses listen to trends. Hirro sending SE multiple suggestion letters will be ineffective. But if a business processes a ton of suggestion letters, emails, calls etc, they will start to see a need develop. SE isn't blind...they're addressing market needs. This is clear with the release of more solo content in FFXI. It doesn't satisfy end-gamers, but it makes their game more appealing to those with limited play-time, and increases the appeal to the target audience that they're hoping to entice to play.

I guess my point with all this is that the reason end-game is often overlooked is because the HNMers aren't exactly a huge percentage of the market. In addition, if you want change, stop bitching on forums, and write a letter to SE. You're dealing with a business here, so speak into their ear instead of just whining on forums about being neglected if you truly want to see changes made that will make you ヽ(´―｀)ノ.

[Ragnard]

Add in alternate ways. Don't change Fafnir's difficulty in the BC. Leave him exactly as he is. Except at the 1hr mark, don't give him rage, stop the BC. Same drops, etc. Give people a chance at obtaining these.

1 in 5 chance of entering the BC and finding Nid sitting there instead of faf? That would be pretty rad. Give them even shorter timers in the BC, like 40 minutes or something too...

And keep darters in there... XD

[Okan]

Add in alternate ways. Don't change Fafnir's difficulty in the BC. Leave him exactly as he is. Except at the 1hr mark, don't give him rage, stop the BC. Same drops, etc. Give people a chance at obtaining these.

1 in 5 chance of entering the BC and finding Nid sitting there instead of faf? That would be pretty rad. Give them even shorter timers in the BC, like 40 minutes or something too...

And keep darters in there... XD

I have no problem with that. Make it a 1 day lock out (to simulate the 24hr pop.) Make it a 30% change for Nidhogg in the BC (30% for Aspid, 30% for KB. Timer is independent so you could get Nidhogg three times in a row and another team that does the BC will not "lock out" Nidhogg because they got it.)

Keep the darters. Keep the Manticores and Raptors for Aspid. Hell, recreate the whole zone as the BC. Just give people an alternate way to obtain the abjurations and items. That is all that I ask.

[Varnx]

I would make it sort of like Dynamis, obtaining a certain item you can trade to a spot in DA, VoS, BD, etc. that will teleport you to a BF of sorts. HQ items for Nid, KB and Aspid :D

[Endo]

as long as he cant fly I am good with this idea

[Okan]

I would make it sort of like Dynamis, obtaining a certain item you can trade to a spot in DA, VoS, BD, etc. that will teleport you to a BF of sorts. HQ items for Nid, KB and Aspid :D

That works too.. In the end, I don't care how (Different mobs for all I care)... Just allow other people to obtain. This in a sense makes claim bots and those trying to cheat the system void. Remove KB,Fafhogg, and Aspid from the game except via BCs.

HNMLS Drama drops 90% PEOPLE GET ALONG NOW OMGWTFBBQ
Bots are a moot point because they don't "pop" anymore.

2 birds. One stone.

[Demetrick]

I would make it sort of like Dynamis, obtaining a certain item you can trade to a spot in DA, VoS, BD, etc. that will teleport you to a BF of sorts. HQ items for Nid, KB and Aspid :D

That works too.. In the end, I don't care how (Different mobs for all I care)... Just allow other people to obtain. This in a sense makes claim bots and those trying to cheat the system void. Remove KB,Fafhogg, and Aspid from the game except via BCs.

HNMLS Drama drops 90% PEOPLE GET ALONG NOW OMGWTFBBQ
Bots are a moot point because they don't "pop" anymore.

2 birds. One stone.

but drama is like energy, if you lose 90% of the drama, it has to go elsewhere, but where?! JESUS WHERE?!

[Okan]

I would make it sort of like Dynamis, obtaining a certain item you can trade to a spot in DA, VoS, BD, etc. that will teleport you to a BF of sorts. HQ items for Nid, KB and Aspid :D

That works too.. In the end, I don't care how (Different mobs for all I care)... Just allow other people to obtain. This in a sense makes claim bots and those trying to cheat the system void. Remove KB,Fafhogg, and Aspid from the game except via BCs.

HNMLS Drama drops 90% PEOPLE GET ALONG NOW OMGWTFBBQ
Bots are a moot point because they don't "pop" anymore.

2 birds. One stone.

but drama is like energy, if you lose 90% of the drama, it has to go elsewhere, but where?! JESUS WHERE?!

To your FACE!

[Sefier]

lol is this still about Hrotti? or was it derailed like EVERY other thread in FF history?

[Okan]

lol is this still about Hrotti? or was it derailed like EVERY other thread in FF history?

Why do you ask?

[Sefier]

cause im just whoring the forums until charys window opens :D

[Okan]

cause im just whoring the forums until charys window opens :D

You have to beat me first. I have until midnight CST.