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    Quote Originally Posted by threevo
    any1 that says anything > blm af2 is retarded. Ive had all 3 (zen rostrum af2) and af2 blows away everything
    Rostrum and AF2 here, and I couldn't agree more.

    Didn't see a point getting Zen still after got AF2.

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    AF2 for times when you need -enm and/or when you can't rest much. i.e. Fafhogg.

    Rostrum for solo and PT or in cases where -enm and resting don't matter.

    Zenith=waste of gil.

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    Rostrum Pump's fast cast is really minor as said here previously. I guess it's worth it to Black Mages as they have such long cast times on higher tier spells but for Bard they're just a poor mans Zenith.

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    I only use Rostrum for Drain/Aspir/Stun and when I have Manafont on. For all else, af2 is better.

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    Conserve MP equipment is the biggest joke in the game. It doesn't effect how often it kicks in, just how much mp is saved on average. Conserve MP+5 gives you an average of 5 more mp everytime conserve MP kicks in. Therefore, it is of little use to me, I would rather have the slight fast cast and the extra int. I have my af2 boots, I used them, and rostum are much better. The only place I might use them is if I decided to torture myself and main heal a roving weapons party in sky, but I'm not that hard up for xp.

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    Um.. I've noticed a huge jump in how much more often it kicks in + and its very noticable when using my mp that I forgot my rostrum pumps on. I love conserve mp more then any other blm trait. (well magic atk bonus is a very close second )

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    Read the Conserve MP trait. the +5 makes the procs of Conserve MP happen more often. I notice a huge difference beteween af2 and Rostrum in MP conservation.

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    I leveled RDM to 40 just to use it as a subjob for the pumps, I've noticed a big difference in casting time with Fast Cast III (I think that's what you get with the pumps on + RDM job traits?). I cast spells when the spell gauge hits 55% or 65%, I forgot With WHM it's up near 75-80%.

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    Simple way to test it...do 100 with them on, and without them on, and you'll see that it does not increase proc rate, just average amount conserved. For every Conserve+1, that's 1% increase averaged out on how much is conserved. When your manapool is over 1000 without trying, that really isn't worth it to me. Like I said, I'll take the fast cast (which is definately noticable on tier IV's and ga III's) and the 1 extra int over a stat that is definately overrated. My only problem with the pumps is the hp>mp conversion...I now sit at 654 in full damage mode, which I don't particularly like.

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    My manapool is nowhere near 1000 without trying. I have maybe 900 only if I have certain gear on cause of latents (af2 pants, ugg pendant etc). Having thunder 4 go for less then 100 mp and thundaga3 for less then 200 a bunch of times. I really don't see spells cost their full mp very often. It's so easy to test even when d2ing people. Ever d2 your alliance or something? I probably get 1 or 2 at full cost for every 4 or 5 d2s.

    In addition, recast timer gets owned if you /rdm, theres a limit on how low the recast can go and thats kinda gay. Casting faster is meaningless if you dont get the most out of your mp. The only real argument against af2 boots is that rostrum has 1 more int.

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    Just go RDMsj, Warlock's Mantle, Sorceror's Sabots.

    Fast Cast III & ConserveMP+5, and only sacrificing about 5-10dmg per spell without having Prism Cape on.

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    From what I have read, items like Warlock's Mantle and Duelist's Tabbard with "Enhances Fast Cast effect" are only 0.5 of a full trait. So you would need the pumps and mantle with /RDM to get Fast Cast 3- the same as a naked level 75 RDM. The best a RDM can do is Fast Cast IV with Warlock's Chapeau and Duelist's Tabbord.

    And then everyone wonders why RDM's are so bitter.

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    I thought AF was 1 on Fast cast? I could just be saying this out of denial that I don't wanna believe that i've been going on so long with FC3... please god, let septimus be wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by Genosync
    Just go RDMsj, Warlock's Mantle, Sorceror's Sabots.

    Fast Cast III & ConserveMP+5, and only sacrificing about 5-10dmg per spell without having Prism Cape on.
    sapient>prism

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    Many Black Mages in my linkshell would also agree that AF2 is better, the fast cast is nice, but from time to time our Black Mages with AF2 will be able to cast a Lv4 spell for something like... 50 MP? I cant see justifying 1 INT over saving 200 MP...

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    I just personally believe that lv75RDM with AF1 hat and AF2 body = Fast Cast V, but that's just me >.>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Palin
    Read the Conserve MP trait. the +5 makes the procs of Conserve MP happen more often. I notice a huge difference beteween af2 and Rostrum in MP conservation.
    eh? I tested it, the +5, is only +3%. It was about 33% proc rate with out the AF2 boots, and 36% with them on...

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    Duende Coathardle (or whatever) and the AF2 = +7 MP Conservation? I wonder how often it would go off then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiro
    Duende Coathardle (or whatever) and the AF2 = +7 MP Conservation? I wonder how often it would go off then.
    Doesn't weskit give conserve mp too? I think other pieces as well, max mp conserve must own =(

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    Yes Igqira and Genie weskit are both 2 Conserve MP. The only Conserve MP gear that isn't worth it is Water Ring because its -15% mp and only on watersday... which is really gay. But regardless, +7 Conserve MP freaking owns.

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