F**k yea

[Rotsu]

huab jumped up 2-3mil since the rng nerf on ifrit

Better than 12 million...

lol you serious?

[royze]

i dont really see how war is the new DD.. i PTed with a war pt
i think it had cries and some other people, as far as i know, cries warrior is perfect but without the ridill..
i was constantly taking hate so much i had to turn around so things get back together..

yeah, and im not talking about KRT here, im talking about aura statues in sky..

[Zantai]

pretty soon war will be nerfed too and everybody will realize mnk was best all along unless the war had ridill

[Xavier]

i dont really see how war is the new DD.. i PTed with a war pt
i think it had cries and some other people, as far as i know, cries warrior is perfect but without the ridill..
i was constantly taking hate so much i had to turn around so things get back together..

yeah, and im not talking about KRT here, im talking about aura statues in sky..

Can't say anything about the war because I don't know him, and can't say anything about your mnk because I haven't checked in a while, but without knowing any facts about the two parties, I can bring it down to this: nin sub.

Why was rng/nin so godly compared to other melee? Not just because it could do dmg, but because it could semi-tank when it took hate until the tanks got it back.

War/nin gets the benefit of dual wielding an axe and ridill, utsusemi and double attack.

I don't want to speak for all monks, but mnk/nin imo is crippling to their dmg. So without even looking at a parser, I know that a mnk who takes hate is going to get his ass handed to him/drain a lot of mp, whereas a war is free to tank.

War is more versitile (sp?). War/nin has shadows, and provoke, gets decent haste gear, and like the thread just said, our static was able to tank the suzaku (the only one we tried to day) on war/nin. Mnk/nin has no provoke, no chance of tanking actual NMs for the course of the fight.

In other words, WAR/NIN IS THE NEW ULTIMATE SUPREME FIGHTING CHAMPION OF THE UNIVERSE.

edit: I just saw that you posted the war didn't have a ridill. Ridill COMPLETES me, when you party on aura gears and the ridill procs 3 times for 100 dmg a hit, its love.

[Kaylia]

Mnk/war or mnk/nin can still make Warrior cry when they equip Faith Baghack.

[Xavier]

Mnk/war or mnk/nin can still make Warrior cry when they equip Faith Baghack.

I hope that was a joke lol

[Kuai]

i outdamage the war/nin static sometimes still 8)

i can still safely say i can outdamage most war/nins on gods/stuffz that arent in BG but for dynamis and limbus ranger just isnt up to snuff

[Nny]

WAR's deffinatly the new RNG; It's overpopulated and the majority of the players suck ass.

BTW: For Gods, I suggest doing Ridill+Tatami (Or w/e your shield of choice might be). Byakko and Seiyru are among the most evasive mobs in the game, it's a lot better to single out Ridill on them in my opinion. Seiyru's easier to damage, but dispelled Berserk/Aggressor and Paralyze suck so I'd still rather single out Ridill. And it actually makes tanking Genbu exciting. You lose like 2-3 shadows imbetween Genbu's attack swings due to counter, it's fun trying to keep up with Utsusemi.

lol @ tanking and giving mob TP at the same time.

lol @ people who actually think it makes a difference.

Basically the only mobs in the game where TP given matters is Tiamat, Jorm, and Vrtra (And some misc ones like Charby). Everything else, why wouldn't you want to fill up the "tank slot" with the biggest damage dealer in the alliance? Inviting a PLD is like saying "Hey, we want you to waste a spot in here."

[Kaylia]

Mnk/war or mnk/nin can still make Warrior cry when they equip Faith Baghack.

I hope that was a joke lol

I'm dead serious.

Last time I parsed on aura statue, Mnk with faith's h2h ended up with something close to 45% total dmg, while me and the other war shared the rest (30% and 25% for me I think)

Mnk: yellow curry, faith's h2h, every other pimp gear a mnk could have
War(me) red curry, every good gear but ridill and speed belt
War(other one): red curry, everything but e.body...and suppa (hauberk+1, speed belt, ridill..etc).

Beside us having to keep utsu up, there isn't really anything other then faith's h2h being way too overpowered.

[Sekkite]

Gotta keep a crap load of stones on ya for faith Baghnaks though.

[mdn]

decked out mnks are nasty to xp with

mnk, nin, war parties are the new rng party

[Ankiseth]

I wish I could get myself a pair of Faith just to mess around with after I've heard how insane they are. The massive delay doesn't make it sound good though, but the actual evidence begs to differ.

But yeah I think good WAR are awesome and always are, and good MNK are godly if they have the best gear and a lot of merits. Smart RNG still have their places though, but WAR and SAM have long been my favorite DDs.

This thread makes me want to level WAR now.

[Sekkite]

Monk onry.

[Elcura]

MNK can tank if they counter with /war. I think a MNK had like 90% counter rate, and counter MNKs with /war can tank easily in war PTs, I can't tell you first hand cause I haven't bothered decking out my +counter gear, but someday I will...

anyway, I've always known that WAR was powerful. It's gonna be the next job I lvl up.

[Genosync]

You should level BRD--it's just as bad as RDM.

[aurik]

Monks can't counter weaponskills which really kills me (literally) when i go for deco or golem pts. Nothing like 500 dmg smites or 800 dmg heavy strikes to make your mages cringe.

Tricked out monks are still top of the heap as far as damage share goes; I'm just a gimp but I still parse only a few % share less than the most tricked-out NA war on our server. Just that we're huge mp-guzzling liabilities too.

I'd wonder if the dmg boost from all the new multiattack stuff would be enough to go mnk/nin and not feel like a drg.

[Brennon]

i don't mind war/nin thinking that they outdamage me (mnk) i just try to lay low and keep quiet, and hope the nerf-fairy doesn't look my way. :D

[Elcura]

MNK/NIN eating attack food w/ a BRD and those double attack weapons would own. Since with attack food+Min (most likely just Min IV) you'll be at your attack cap or near it so berserk wouldn't be missed THAT much but at least you won't get mauled.

[Magicker]

Monks can't counter weaponskills which really kills me (literally) when i go for deco or golem pts. Nothing like 500 dmg smites or 800 dmg heavy strikes to make your mages cringe.

Just caught my eye real quick. I have very little experience on golems, but decos are way too weak. As a tank in a deco party, all you have to do is be at max melee range and unlocked from target, soon as they start smite, just drop back and you get out of range. I haven't been hit once by smite other than when I was mid-cast in months. The icky one is whirl, gotta have the whm-pld flash or the blm-drk stun that and you're golden.

[Ganesha]

In other words, WAR/NIN IS THE NEW ULTIMATE SUPREME FIGHTING CHAMPION OF THE UNIVERSE.

ah that makes me feel sooooo good ^^

1) not really new :wink: we always owned, ppl just never noticed it
2) server emigration {can i have it?} >.<; DRG > WAR?? {/welcome} to Ramuh

maxed merits for: 'go lvl a useful job, like brd or smn' and 'warrior = jack of all trades, master of nothing -> good for nothing' YAY

one of these days im gonna freak out and... rampage them all ; ;