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  1. #21
    E. Body
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    fine what about top 3? bb? ridill? defending ring? shadow mantle/ring? adaman hauberk?

  2. #22
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    3. Defending Ring
    2. Shadow Mantle
    1. Terra Staff

  3. #23
    Xavier
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    Shadow Mantle is cool but I don't think it'd be in my top 3, since its activation isn't even 25% (I think).

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    1. Gjallarhorn
    2. Defending Ring
    3. Shadow Mantle
    4. Duelist's Chapeau
    5. Excalibur
    6. Justice Torque? lol

  5. #25
    Akiro
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    Duelist Chapteu is only cool looking and only benefits the red mage not other people, like the Terra/Earth Staff or other "all job" items

  6. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roranora
    1. Gjallarhorn
    2. Defending Ring
    3. Shadow Mantle
    4. Duelist's Chapeau
    5. Excalibur
    6. Justice Torque? lol
    1. Gjallarhorn
    2. Shadow Mantle
    3. Duelist's Chapeau
    4. Excalibur
    5. Shadow Mantle/BB

  7. #27
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    Lakshmi

    For all jobs, definately Earth/Terra's staff..

  8. #28
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    ok dont list relics because thats just assumed. no relic items, top 5.

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    Well a Gjallarhorn is just for a BRD.. but the impact that it can have on a whole group in a tough situation is unparalleled.

  10. #30
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    Shadow is like 15% prof from what ive heard

  11. #31
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    Duelist Chapteu is only cool looking and only benefits the red mage not other people
    Is this a joke?

  12. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amarok
    Duelist Chapteu is only cool looking and only benefits the red mage not other people
    Is this a joke?
    Must be.. I never take mine off unless I'm nuking and need the +skill from Warlock's cause it just looks so badass.

  13. #33
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    I think Pluto Staff would be #4 or #5 for me. +10 HMP, and +15% Sleep.
    Not sure about another :/

  14. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roranora
    1. Gjallarhorn
    2. Defending Ring
    3. Shadow Mantle
    4. Duelist's Chapeau
    5. Excalibur
    1. Excalibur
    2. Shadow Mantle
    3. Defending Ring
    4. Duelist's Chapeau

    . Gjallarhorn(get that shit out of here)

  15. #35
    Akiro
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    nope, bard horn effects the group as a whole, shadow mantle pld/nin defending ring pld/nin excalibur endgame faster kills only reason i see this help is if you cant get crimson mask or a dalmatica

  16. #36
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    Crimson mask? Do you even know what you're talking about?

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  18. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiro
    nope, bard horn effects the group as a whole, shadow mantle pld/nin defending ring pld/nin excalibur endgame faster kills only reason i see this help is if you cant get crimson mask or a dalmatica
    Or how about you get a crimson mask+5 and a dalmatica in one slot.....rdm af2hat is without a doubt top5.

  19. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amarok
    Crimson mask? Do you even know what you're talking about?
    I'm lol'ing irl with you too.

  20. #40

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    Um.. average.. why Shadow Mantle over a Defending Ring? If you're lucky.. it'll proc 10% of hits, saving you the equivalent of what a Defending Ring would have just assuming you're taking only physical damage. Throw one Hurricane Wing in there and Defending Ring has one-upped you. Also, fuck Excalibur over Gjallarhorn. Throw in a mob with respectable evasion combined with a subpar proc rate, combined with the PLD (if it's not a RDM lol) not gaining full hate from the additional damage... yeah that's surely better than 133% more potent ballads. Anyone who doesn't put Gjallarhorn #1 has a poor understanding of what it would do for end-game situations.

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