best single item in the game?

**tiberion02** · 2005-10-20 23:16

Sorry but a Gjallarhorn >>>>> anything in the game (basis is if your in a pt of any type)

**Toreador** · 2005-10-20 23:17

I would have to say that the Duelist Cheapou is incredible. +15 Enf. Skill? W/ an enfeebling earring, cheapou and tabard, you can pretty much enfeeble anything... 320+ Enfeebling Skill is absolutely incredible Vs. HNM. Earth Staff however, is a very nice item, esp. paired with a Shadow Mantle and Defending Ring, you could live a while against any HNM with that Combo.

**sekaran** · 2005-10-20 23:18

Originally Posted by Toreador

I would have to say that the Duelist Cheapou is incredible. +15 Enf. Skill? W/ an enfeebling earring, cheapou and tabard, you can pretty much enfeeble anything... 320+ Enfeebling Skill is absolutely incredible Vs. HNM. Earth Staff however, is a very nice item, esp. paired with a Shadow Mantle and Defending Ring, you could live a while against any HNM with that Combo.

I can max out my enfeebling to 339 and it still means shit to sky gods though. :\ Though for all the kings.. it certainly does make enfeebling a breeze.

**Russta** · 2005-10-20 23:19

Originally Posted by Roranora

Um.. average.. why Shadow Mantle over a Defending Ring? If you're lucky.. it'll proc 10% of hits, saving you the equivalent of what a Defending Ring would have just assuming you're taking only physical damage.

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'sup Shadow Mantle.

**Roranora** · 2005-10-20 23:20

That's like rolling 999, Russta; it's going to happen some. Our LS has obtained 2 Shadow Mantles so far and the proc rate isn't enough to put it over a defending ring's -10% of all damage. x.x

Or.. we have fake mantles ._.

**Raineer** · 2005-10-20 23:20

Duelist Chapeau just owns beyond belief, Black Belt is just as good or better though.

Shadow mantle procs like 5-10%. just fyi.

Pluto's and Terra staves have to be WAY up there tho.

If you include relics, I think Excalibur and Gjahhhhhhorn are pretty close too. Horn probably wins but the en-spells alone on the Excalibur make it fucking INSANE. PLD/NIN could solo xp quite easily haha.

**Amarok** · 2005-10-20 23:21

Just don't be a gimp PLD and get a Defending Ring and a Shadow Mantle.

**Toreador** · 2005-10-20 23:22

Originally Posted by sekaran

Originally Posted by Toreador

I would have to say that the Duelist Cheapou is incredible. +15 Enf. Skill? W/ an enfeebling earring, cheapou and tabard, you can pretty much enfeeble anything... 320+ Enfeebling Skill is absolutely incredible Vs. HNM. Earth Staff however, is a very nice item, esp. paired with a Shadow Mantle and Defending Ring, you could live a while against any HNM with that Combo.

I can max out my enfeebling to 339 and it still means shit to sky gods though. :\ Though for all the kings.. it certainly does make enfeebling a breeze.

Its nice seeing Tiamat silenced constantly =P

**Razz** · 2005-10-20 23:22

I'm going to take into account how fucking rare and hard they are to get:

1. Defending Ring
2. Shadow Mantle
3. Ridill

These 3 items aren't readily available nor are they obtainable by RMT ninja/ranger/monk NAs.

Note that no matter how good the stats are on black belt, any RMT UAE/NA monk can get it if they paid the right price for the 3 king items.

Why isn't a relic weapon in my list? Thanks to the channel 4 news team, I have been informed that dupe/RMTony has a level 3 katana.

While fags like him can dupe as many byne bills as they desire, they'll never be able to kill or pay for the items in my list, because they're too fucking priceless.

**Roranora** · 2005-10-20 23:23

And if Tony's really like you say he is, Stage3 is as far as he'll make it, lol.

Akiro · 2005-10-20 23:25

Originally Posted by Roranora

And if Tony's really like you say he is, Stage3 is as far as he'll make it, lol.

did his LS finally pass Dynamis-Windurst?

**Andarvi** · 2005-10-20 23:26

touche yet again mitz, gotta agree. the sheer rareness of those items does make them way up on the list.

hypothetically, if a dynamis LS was inclined to do so, how much do u think attenstations would be worth to an RMT? 500m? O.O

**average** · 2005-10-20 23:27

Originally Posted by Razz

I'm going to take into account how fucking rare and hard they are to get:

1. Defending Ring
2. Shadow Mantle
3. Ridill

These 3 items aren't readily available nor are they obtainable by RMT ninja/ranger/monk NAs.

Note that no matter how good the stats are on black belt, any RMT UAE/NA monk can get it if they paid the right price for the 3 king items.

Why isn't a relic weapon in my list? Thanks to the channel 4 news team, I have been informed that dupe/RMTony has a level 3 katana.

While fags like him can dupe as many byne bills as they desire, they'll never be able to kill or pay for the items in my list, because they're too fucking priceless.

So true, its not even funny. On my server there is this little gillbuyer/account stealer who is about 5k coins away from excal, after only a 3-4 months. Buys all coins at almost anyprice

edit

Remora FTL.

**Raineer** · 2005-10-20 23:30

Originally Posted by Toreador

Originally Posted by sekaran

Originally Posted by Toreador

I would have to say that the Duelist Cheapou is incredible. +15 Enf. Skill? W/ an enfeebling earring, cheapou and tabard, you can pretty much enfeeble anything... 320+ Enfeebling Skill is absolutely incredible Vs. HNM. Earth Staff however, is a very nice item, esp. paired with a Shadow Mantle and Defending Ring, you could live a while against any HNM with that Combo.

I can max out my enfeebling to 339 and it still means shit to sky gods though. :\ Though for all the kings.. it certainly does make enfeebling a breeze.

Its nice seeing Tiamat silenced constantly =P

I'm only at 329 and it's plenty sweet here. Silencing tiamat at certain times is sweet as can be <3, plus nailing kings with debuffs 4tw

**Roranora** · 2005-10-20 23:31

We have a similar JP PLD, the leader of an HNMLS, but due to their ruthless tactics at HNMs for such a long tenure, his linkshell of about 25 followers is all he has. He has stage3 sword and shield, a 10k of each currency, and his LS is stuck on Dynamis - Jeuno with about 28 people. Not sure what he'd have to pay for an attestation; we'd get him one for a Rimala stripshell. ._.

**Razz** · 2005-10-20 23:33

Originally Posted by Andarvi

touche yet again mitz, gotta agree. the sheer rareness of those items does make them way up on the list.

hypothetically, if a dynamis LS was inclined to do so, how much do u think attenstations would be worth to an RMT? 500m? O.O

The price I'm not sure of, but I doubt it would be that high, but whatever the price it wouldn't be a problem for an RMTer/duper. All you have to do is offer a good dynamis LS like 50mill for the attestation, I'm sure said dynamis LS would take him up on the offer since 50mill pays for 50 runs. Again I'll say I'm not sure on the price but people like dupe/RMTony would have no problem with.

**Zaris** · 2005-10-20 23:38

I can only imagine how expensive Dynamis LS would make the fragment pieces in Dynamis-Xarcarbard cost. It's not like the price really matters to RMTers since a person who can pay for stage 4 prolly wouldn't have any problems with stage 5... And mind you, they're hard as hell to kill...

**Orfeo** · 2005-10-20 23:38

Why isn't riddil in most peoples lists? It's by far one of the best items in the game, I'd say top 3.

**Gregorio** · 2005-10-20 23:38

LOLZ TONY DUPED HIS AF2 AND DUPED DYNAMZ MOBS SO THEY DROP MORE CURRENCY LOLZ

Akiro · 2005-10-20 23:39

dude, its old, stfu

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