Question for BG's war/nin vs Fafnir

[Marcatil]

Just going to speak from an objective view here, but I think personally that people just rely so heavily on Provoke that they aren't willing to try other things. Hence why others may say PLD/NIN is hard to tank with.

I'm sure it's not hard - if people would just freakin try >.> Anyone with half a brain can hold hate, however, it takes a good tank to be able to change things around and adapt to a situation with what you're given under the circumstances. Same basic principle being RDM

[Xavier]

Just going to speak from an objective view here, but I think personally that people just rely so heavily on Provoke that they aren't willing to try other things. Hence why others may say PLD/NIN is hard to tank with.

I'm sure it's not hard - if people would just freakin try >.> Anyone with half a brain can hold hate, however, it takes a good tank to be able to change things around and adapt to a situation with what you're given under the circumstances. Same basic principle being RDM

That was an intelligent post, I salute you.

A PLD/NIN with max enmity, who flashes/uses all his abilities and spams cure iv should almost NEVER lose hate to anyone. It requires an extra bard than a ninja would need, but from everything we've seen, the hate benefit is noticeable between a pld/nin and a nin/war. I'm not saying no other tank is good, we've just found pld/nin to be the most viable.

[Marcatil]

Theoretically couldn't you also spam the Elemental wheel (ichi version >.>) for a little extra? Since it doesn't cost MP and I'm guessing there are moments where you could cast this. Of course I've never seen PLD/NIN in action, so what do I know

On the side note, particularly directed towards RDM I guess, have people been getting LESS nuke resists lately? I have a good hunk of INT, but not nearly as much as I'd prefer of course, but going through Dyna-Sandy earlier this week (still wish I had a parser) I think the majority of the time I was nuking and not getting major resists o.o Slight resists here and there, taking some 600dmg spells down to high 400s mid 500s (not that I'm complaining), granted I had some major resists [inevitable], but that was just freaky.

[Xavier]

Theoretically couldn't you also spam the Elemental wheel (ichi version >.>) for a little extra? Since it doesn't cost MP and I'm guessing there are moments where you could cast this. Of course I've never seen PLD/NIN in action, so what do I know :lol

I guess but I don't think the entire elemental wheel is as much hate as one cure iv.

[Amarao]

I remember on the Nidhogg that dropped Edwardtheblack's m.body....we all were pld/nin and most of us were just playing around with the ichi spells. It helps, but not as much as just using flash/ja/cure IV does. You may also get lucky and stick it like most of us did lol....
Basically, it'd be more efficient to use actual PLD skills rather than spend 5-8 seconds? (idk the exact time) casting a ninjutsu spell.

[Marcatil]

Yeah I doubt it does as well, was more or less a suggestion to the if/when scenario when you run out of MP >.> Macro in lightstaff for more HP healed? As long as shadows are up you should be able to avoid it long enough to get Earth/Terra staff back on :3

[Xavier]

As long as shadows are up you should be able to avoid it long enough to get Earth/Terra staff back on :3

pld/nin uses hrotti + koenig (kasier fk you bik) shield 8)

[Jason]

bikk uses Excalibur + Kaiser now 8)

[Razz]

I don't think macroing a piece of gear specifically for cures as a tank is the smartest thing to do. You'll blink and the whms will get boned. That and it sounds like too much work amidst the intense and laggy battle.

[Bikwin]

KAISER SHIELD

[Marcatil]

As long as shadows are up you should be able to avoid it long enough to get Earth/Terra staff back on :3

pld/nin uses hrotti + koenig (kasier fk you bik) shield 8)

The learning, my brain it hurts!

[Bikwin]

the ONLY way to tank on pld/nin is to have 300m in gearz + rare/ex items like resentment cape, CoP ring, AF2, aegis
and under the rare occasion you are terrored or don't have shadows, you swap on yur full koenig+defending ring so you don't lose as much hate when hit

ONLY THEN IS IT POSSIBLE

[Razz]

Erm you forgot Shadow mantle and Shadow Ring.

[Xavier]

the ONLY way to tank on pld/nin is to have 300m in gearz + rare/ex items like resentment cape, CoP ring, AF2, aegis
and under the rare occasion you are terrored or don't have shadows, you swap on yur full koenig+defending ring so you don't lose as much hate when hit

ONLY THEN IS IT POSSIBLE

how does Amarao do it then? LOOOOOL BURNED AAHHAAHHAHAGHARHTAHTSHAHAHAH

j/k man, we are lions.

I don't think I'd ever use resentment cape over gigant mantle on pld, probably would on nin though.

[Marcatil]

Wtf@items I've never heard of >.>

Maybe I should do something aside from crafting and lose exp in Dynamis once in awhile <.<

[Aribeth]

As long as shadows are up you should be able to avoid it long enough to get Earth/Terra staff back on :3

pld/nin uses hrotti + koenig (kasier fk you bik) shield 8)

http://www.digitalpantheon.com/ffxi/other/kaiser.jpg
Kaiser Shield: O 8)
Excalibur: X
Aegis: X

You guys have really perked my interest in PLD/NIN. I'll try and see how it works :Þ

[Marcatil]

I knew that name of yours was familiar. I remember it from that Dynamis Lord video from way back 8) The only reason it stuck out is b/c there is/used to be an Aeribeth on Fairy <.< Freaky sorta-similarity :3

[Bikwin]

(To Aribeth)
i'll see yur SS and raise you a
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y208/Bikkwin/asub.jpg

[Marcatil]

You insult my craft with your subligar. I'm making you pants and sending them cross-server <.<

[Americayankee]

Aribeth is elvaan female i don't think you have to raise anything