Which job should get first priority on Homam Corazza?

[NynJa]

Just forget this then until someone gets this armor and tells us the proc rate. You're very opinionated on the matter since you're thief main, and I'm opinionated on the matter since I'm DRK main.

If you think I'm opinionated because THF is my main, go ahead and assume that...

thf > drg > drk > pld is the correct order

THF > DRG > DRK > PLD seems like most fair, and would probably be what we would be using in our linkshell.

Thf > Drg > Drk > Pld

would you give up Hauberk's STR, DEX and Attack?

But I have to ask if you have any clever eexplications for the afforementionned four people?

[Sekkite]

[quote=NynJa]

Just forget this then until someone gets this armor and tells us the proc rate. You're very opinionated on the matter since you're thief main, and I'm opinionated on the matter since I'm DRK main.

If you think I'm opinionated because THF is my main, go ahead and assume that...

thf > drg > drk > pld is the correct order

THF > DRG > DRK > PLD seems like most fair, and would probably be what we would be using in our linkshell.

Thf > Drg > Drk > Pld

would you give up Hauberk's STR, DEX and Attack?

But I have to ask if you have any clever eexplications for the afforementionned four people?[/quote:7f511]

Yes I do assume that you're opinionated since you're thief main. You are only looking at the benefits for thief on it and therefore assume that thief is by far the best choice for it.

Mdn is a ninja and STR and ATT benefits NIN a bit more directly then it does for DRK DoT. Might as well ask him to wear a haubergeon and sub thief and see how good his TP gain is at that point. Not to mention that mdn neglected to notice that the body armor has +15 accuracy.

Freja, well, I don't understand his logic. Thief, Dark Knight, and Dragoon don't exactly melee HNMs commonly, so I fail to see why HNM situations would even be brought up in this. Even if they are, DRK DoT would be higher then thief on HNMs and DRK would need the boost in TP gain.

tiberion02 hasn't exactly said anything to really support his side much.

As for Member #63, I already answered him that I would give up Hauberk's STR, DEX, and ATT if the Homam body armor has a decent proc rate on triple attack. An average of one proc rate per fight would be a tremendous boost to DRK as getting TP for SATA spinning slash is the most important thing for DRK in xp parties.

[NynJa]

Level: 75
Flags: Rare / Exclusive
Slot: Body
Type: Leather
Jobs: DRK DRG PLD THF
Races: All
Defense: 49
Auction House Category:
Armor / Body
Effects for Homam Corazza:

* HP +28
* MP +28
* Accuracy +15
* Enhances 'Triple Attack' Effect


I dont see nin in that job list, I fail to comprehend the logic in you talking about mdn's nin.

[Sekkite]

Level: 75
Flags: Rare / Exclusive
Slot: Body
Type: Leather
Jobs: DRK DRG PLD THF
Races: All
Defense: 49
Auction House Category:
Armor / Body
Effects for Homam Corazza:

* HP +28
* MP +28
* Accuracy +15
* Enhances 'Triple Attack' Effect


I dont see nin in that job list, I fail to comprehend the logic in you talking about mdn's nin.

it's worthless for drk; str+dex+accuracy+attack>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>other dumb enhance stuff, adaman hauberk or even NQ hauberk are really really overpowered compared to alternatives for other jobs. not even to mention that you won't be getting it if you don't have the ability to get an adaman hauberk already anyway; you need an organized group to get through these floors and keep the chips and stuff.

That is why I am talking about his ninja(On a side note, mdn, its not a matter of being able to kill the kings. Its a matter of LS interest. Not enough LS members are interested in camping the kings for hours on end daily for only a chance at claim. However we are interested in Limbus and we have enough members in Sea right now to clear some of the smaller ones. Working on getting more LS members to Sea so we can take on the harder Limbus runs).

His experience as ninja with haubergeon(same positive stats as a NQ hauberk) would be much more substantial then a DRK with hauberk.

[vudoodoodoo]

DRK can wear way better armor.
The Acc+15 on Homan isn't really that big of a deal. You can get +12 on Scorpion+1 and Haubergeon+1 and Hauberk+1(?).
It's the Enhance Triple Attack that I'm interested in.
THF>DRG>DRK>PLD. 8)

[DrObvious]

No one knows yet exactly, but chances are you're wrong. The only item in game which enhances a trait but doesn't give the trait is supponanmi(sp?) for enhanced dual wield.

And let's not forget the double attack earring which "enhances" and also gives double attack. Which also happens to be a Limbus reward. I'd say the precedent has been set to believe the body gives triple attack.

[Kuponut]

My Main Job is Thief

Personally I see the body Piece being most useful for a Thief, the only problem that I see with it is that it is Red Barone, and it is ugly

Each Piece of Homam seems to give a greater attribute to a certain job, like the Body helps Thieves, the Hands (I think) give DRG Wyvern some HP, lots of Haste+% on most the pieces and accuracy, and Fast Cast on the legs for DRK and PLD, as well as giant boosts to HP and MP etc. (Probably forgetting most of the stats, the set doesn't interest me much at the moment), Gives some nice stats that benefit the jobs able to use it... but like I said... I am not interested much in the armor because it is red barone ^^"

Hecatomb is very nice looking ^^



If Homam Set is Square trying to make up for the jobs who can't use god gear... I would Rather use Osode, Kote, and Byakko's thing any day XD

The Red Sha'ir is for mages not able to use god gear? lol


I am not a RDM, and I feel that Red Mages are being left out alot, all other mage jobs get nice equips that enhance fast cast, but RDM is left with Relic Body, AF Hat, and the new Earring =/

[Raineer]

Why wouldn't the proc rate be at least 5%? The brutal earring is a 5% proc rate.

Loquacious earring is also +5% fastcast, I have it.

[Daahan]

Actually I'm not really sure if this is THAT good for DRG...DRG are gimped enough as it is at lvl 75, they need lots and lots of attack for melee and lots and lots of STR for weapon skill.

imo Assault Jerkin or Barone Corazza would be better choices for melee, and a hecatomb harness is nice for WS.

Then again if you are meleeing big game HNMs the extra 15Acc is really nice for any job imo.

[layoneil]

The Red Sha'ir is for mages not able to use god gear? lol


I am not a RDM, and I feel that Red Mages are being left out alot, all other mage jobs get nice equips that enhance fast cast, but RDM is left with Relic Body, AF Hat, and the new Earring =/

Nashira Seraweels (Legs)
Divine +5, Enfeebling +5, Magic Accuracy +3, Haste +2%

that's probably the best piece out of all the Proto Gear.

[Raineer]

Yeah Nashira Seraweels, +enfeebling cape (altrustic i think?), and loquacious earring are now available.

You will hear no bitching about god gear from this Redmage.

[Not Kuno]

Dont forget the +8% magic accuracy SHAKRAM. Fucking pimp for a ranged piece. Plus, even if you fucking throw it; it comes back.

[edgarfigaro]

Dont forget the +8% magic accuracy SHAKRAM. Fucking pimp for a ranged piece. Plus, even if you fucking throw it; it comes back.

No more thrown tathlums

[Member #63]

Sekkite, I love you man and all, but you sound like that WHM who posted about lotting priority on Herald's Gaiters and when everyone gave opinions and WHM wasn't on the top of the list he threw a fit. Think of it this way dude. IF you want it so much, your LS will do Limbus just like they did Kirin multiple times for OSode and you will have yours. Don't stress it dude.

Hirronimus.

[tiberion02]

Dear Xavier:

In regards to Sekkite... he refuses to accept my word as truth, therefor:
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But seriousl though, I dont deny it could be a good piece for a drk. BUT you asked who it was best for. Many people from many endgame LSs give the same answer. Thf Drg Drk Pld. Proc rate doesnt really matter, Since higher proc rate only helps thfs even more.

[Kuponut]

The Red Sha'ir is for mages not able to use god gear? lol


I am not a RDM, and I feel that Red Mages are being left out alot, all other mage jobs get nice equips that enhance fast cast, but RDM is left with Relic Body, AF Hat, and the new Earring =/

Nashira Seraweels (Legs)
Divine +5, Enfeebling +5, Magic Accuracy +3, Haste +2%

that's probably the best piece out of all the Proto Gear.

I just meant that other mage jobs get all these new Fast cast items, while Red Mage is left out of their own Job Trait, I know magic accuracy and enfeebling and such help RDM

[Member #63]

Maybe the reason for that because they are trying to even out casting speed of all mages?

[layoneil]

if you keep giving RDMs Fast Cast enhancements, eventually they'll Chainspell without using 2 hour.

[Member #63]

That's true, but in the same sense a MNK who uses top of the line haste gear will hit almost as fast Hundred Fist.

[Amastacia]

if you keep giving RDMs Fast Cast enhancements, eventually they'll Chainspell without using 2 hour.

Where's the problem with that? :wink:

j/k of course

I agree with Raineer, sea provides RDM with some nice shineys, now all they need to do is fix it so that subjobbers with no native Enfeebling Magic skill can't be as effective as RDM mains at enfeebling on some mobs, and I won't have any complaints at all.