Jailer of Love - Pandemonium Server

[Orfeo]

18BST dd's with an alliance of healers/tanks waiting to hold if they wipe with level 100 cooks pumping out CC's and another alliance or two of BST's to fill in between CB timers?

With capped CB merits, naturally.

[Fire]

c) Were you aware that Meteor is listed as 1MP in the DAT, so if SE gave him an MP pool of say, 500 it would be more than sufficient to give him Meteors for 8-10 hours time?

dat files also list ga4's and AM2's as being around 600mp each. am sure SE would have given it mp in the hundred thousands (if not just unlimited) as it looks like it spams magic a lot.

[Lasitha]

Wouldn't throwing 20 rdms at it to chainspell aspir be the same as doing 40 BLMs from your point of view? I doubt the Dev team had 20 rdms doing 2hrs to beat him.

[Coco]

how do you know what things are in the .dats? o.O

I am such a noob. -.-;;

[TheLegendaryCravy]

Everyone keeps saying "rdm blm blahblah" what about, 15 drks with 3 bards. soul voice double march, outside haste to all of them. all 15 drks use souleater last resot berserk warcry blood weapon with kraken clubs and max accuracy increase in their equip with sushi

[Seanzerelli]

If kraken club is hitting for like 1s and 2s what is the drain doing? Dunno how blood weapon rolls. >.>

[Eromenos-Ifrit]

There has to be a reason these things drop torques, and weapons. I think that is probably part of the key to doing damage on it. Think about it. They attack faster with the items, building tp faster, and maybe get the obi's that enhance WS? I dunno it just seems that since this is the mother of all mother of all sea, that it might take the strategy that involves all the different quests from sea?

Really at this point, people can keep tearing down others opinions but in reality until you try it for yourself, you just don't know (dirrected at people who talk down at the others here)

Look at all the BCs of CoP. Most of them have items you quest for that nerf the opponant. We just need to find the quest / item to do so maybe.

[Gilmaster]

Everyone keeps saying "rdm blm blahblah" what about, 15 drks with 3 bards. soul voice double march, outside haste to all of them. all 15 drks use souleater last resot berserk warcry blood weapon with kraken clubs and max accuracy increase in their equip with sushi

Cause one -ga4 spell wud kill the whole lot of them?

[TheLegendaryCravy]

If kraken club is hitting for like 1s and 2s what is the drain doing? Dunno how blood weapon rolls. >.>

with souleater it would be hitting for 100+ most likely and draining the same hp from your opponent with blood weapon on. like if a drk hits you for 150 and has blood weapon on, you will get drained for 150 more and you lose 300hp

[Morathi]

Dynamis Lord is hardly some super drawn out fight that you can compare to something like this. Regardless of whether it has HP/MP regen or not, you can't compare something that is immune to chainspell-stun (AV) to something that isn't (DL) since that's basically the reason that DL is beatable in the first place.

If AV didn't regen HP then most likely the best strat would be the summoner thing mentioned above, just have the 30 BLM warp to Tav and change to Summoner, then come back and put 15 summons on AV and 5 on each of the wyverns and run away and just recast when they die. But obviously that won't work since it regens way faster than summons would do damage.

I honestly can't think of a conventional way to beat this thing, I'm guessing this is the kind of situation where it's going to require a trick or very specific strategy. Perhaps this is where those virtue weapons come into play, maybe if hit with all 7 he is weakened or loses regen, or maybe damage dealt by the weapons he can't regenerate. Maybe in the panic the JP didn't really think of trying everything and just gave up.

Honestly though, it's more disheartening hearing that Love didn't drop novio and novia, even though all logic suggests that it should (in fact, now that AV is proven to be a different mob it's even more likely than before that novio/a are dropped off Love and the other stuff off AV). How fucking stupid is it that SE doesn't even make those like auto-drops off Love, if it takes 30 BLM to beat you could at least have the decency to make Novio drop 100% instead of some POS halberd. SE is basically saying "Congrats on gathering dozens of people and every BLM you could find and spending countless exp and many hours of your life....here's a halberd for all you BLM to lot on. Suckers!"

[Seanzerelli]

Ah thx, that would be pretty crazy to see, but less of a chance people will try it because more are lvling blm?

[Janice]

The answer is obvious and simple.

Get all 15 relic weapons fully upgraded. With all the extra effects, it will make a lvl 100 mob feel like a lvl 99 mob and it will be a piece of cake.

[Alina]

Keep in mind, it can and does do Blood Weapon...his regular hits did 400+ to full koenig plds, and nins decked out in physical damage- gear. He also has regen as insane as JoL... Not to mention, one or two AoEs, or Aeroga IV or Meteor will kill everyone...

[Corbie]

i like how this has 33 thousand views in one day.

No wonder I cant see one single picture

[edgarfigaro]

20 chainspelling rdms might aspir 200 mp between the 20 of them. That's why I laughed at your "plan"


I'll be generous, 400 mp. That's still no where close to what a NM casting AMII and ga IV's would have, even if meteor is only 1 mp.

Chainspell can be put to much, much better use. If you want to aspir all of its mp, get a crapton of hasted drks and blms, they can actually get 5-10 mp per aspir.

[NynJa]

Dynamis Lord's do, and people kill him. You're going to respond "Dynamis Lord doesn't have insane regen" now, but it doesn't really matter because I'm not claiming to know the optimal strategy for killing JoL or AV, I'm just stating that one almost certainly exists, and it obviously isn't 40 BLM.

Sorry if this was answered, I had to travel to school -.-

DL is stunnable, AV is not.

Aspiring a mob to no MP can't be part of the designed strat.

people did it to Kirin back in the day too but now we obviously know that it's totally unnecessary.

What holds true for Kirin doesn't hold true to AV, totaly different approach.

Kirin doesn't insta-cast his spells, nor spams them.

ORLY?
From what I've seen, there were only 2 (or 3) Wynav's out at any given time. I havent seen any videos, just the posted screenshots.

Dat files show 6 Wynav's. Kite AV down and kill off the 6 wynav's and see what happens ?

Yeah, 20 rdm/blm chainspelling aspir...

Rdm casts aspir
Rdm aspirs 2 mp from AV

repeat, repeat, repeat...

Nice try, thanks for coming, goodbye now.

lol it's unfortunate that your attempt at being a being clever only resulted in showing that you're nothing more than an idiot trying to be clever.

a) Did you personally try it or see anyone try it?
b) Do you know exactly how much MP AV has?
c) Were you aware that Meteor is listed as 1MP in the DAT, so if SE gave him an MP pool of say, 500 it would be more than sufficient to give him Meteors for 8-10 hours time?

Sorry I fail to see how you have given any evidence whatsoever refuting my idea. But if you do find something that can reasonbly be construed as constructive evidence, feel free to let me know. Otherwise gtfo so people can try to figure out how to beat him instead of getting into a competition to see who can find the cleverest way of shooting the other person down in an effort to enlarge their e-Ego.

RDM E Dark Magic Skill = Aspirs for 0-2 MP.

And the whole point of shooting others idea down is to show which strat will most likely work. The strat that gets no "THAT WONT WORK LOLOLROFLCOPTER" responses is the one that has no visible flaws.

[Grumpy]

What's funny with the Dynamis Lord comparison is, that my Dynamis LS just killed it a few hours before I caught word of JoL attempt. We have gotten 3 Shadow Rings, so we are getting people equipped with it =P

I've got to agree, the only mob I can think of that goes absolute bonkers to the degree of AV is Dynamis Lord. DL with Ying and Yang is super nasty, Oblivion Smash and Body Slam. But comparison with AV falls short, because you can't have 64 people attacking it at the same time.

The CoP wyrms does have Spike Flail, but it's mostly preventable if you know what you are doing. Their respective wing attack hurts, but will not one-shot your alliance. They are time consuming, but doesn't have anything like AV or even Dynamis Lord's "WTF HAX" attack spams.

[NynJa]

blah

[Alina]

ORLY?
From what I've seen, there were only 2 (or 3) Wynav's out at any given time. I havent seen any videos, just the posted screenshots.

Dat files show 6 Wynav's. Kite AV down and kill off the 6 wynav's and see what happens ?

One Wynav was killed, AV did Call Wyvern instantly. Another one was attempted to be killed, and did 4000 dmg AE Mijin Gakure.

[Lasitha]

Aspiring a mob to no MP can't be part of the designed strat.

people did it to Kirin back in the day too but now we obviously know that it's totally unnecessary.

What holds true for Kirin doesn't hold true to AV, totaly different approach.

Kirin doesn't insta-cast his spells, nor spams them.

ORLY?
From what I've seen, there were only 2 (or 3) Wynav's out at any given time. I havent seen any videos, just the posted screenshots.

Dat files show 6 Wynav's. Kite AV down and kill off the 6 wynav's and see what happens ?

They already said he will call more Wynavs.