Jailer of Love - Pandemonium Server

[Janice]

Did anyone try to silence him or was that a spur of the moment thing >_>

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If people are smart enough to get far enough to AV, they are most likely smart enough to try to silence it. Especially if they are getting raped by spells.

Did they try curing? I find that when my party takes dmg, using a cure spell helps to keep them alive.

BTW I like the fact that AV is wind, have fun RDM. Wonder what you will be doing during that fight. :wink: Probably your favorite activity.

Jailer of Love has been beaten once. Just because nuking him a lot worked doesn't mean there isn't another strategy or trick that works better. That's how all of these new things go - they start being impossible and eventually are completely figured out, and routinely killed with a machined precision.

The difference being that you many people can try strategies on all the other mobs quite regularly. When only a couple of LS can have the patience of popping JoL and even then only once in a long while, how long til the trick is worked out?

[Ohemgee]

Did anyone try to silence him or was that a spur of the moment thing >_>

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If people are smart enough to get far enough to AV, they are most likely smart enough to try to silence it. Especially if they are getting raped by spells.

Did they try curing? I find that when my party takes dmg, using a cure spell helps to keep them alive.

BTW I like the fact that AV is wind, have fun RDM. Wonder what you will be doing during that fight. :wink: Probably your favorite activity.

Hurray, didnt know it was wind base.

[divisortheory]

We already know how to kill AV, there is no point in all these theories. All those theories for JoL were for nothing, so it will be the same here.

Jailer of Love has been beaten once. Just because nuking him a lot worked doesn't mean there isn't another strategy or trick that works better. That's how all of these new things go - they start being impossible and eventually are completely figured out, and routinely killed with a machined precision.

I haven't seen the DATs, but has anyone found the Sins yet? Perhaps those are like anima for Absolute Virtue?

Most likely scenario is that they drop from AV and are traded to the NPC in Tavnazian Safehold for the reward.

[Indiana]

Did anyone try to silence him or was that a spur of the moment thing >_>

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If people are smart enough to get far enough to AV, they are most likely smart enough to try to silence it. Especially if they are getting raped by spells.

Did they try curing? I find that when my party takes dmg, using a cure spell helps to keep them alive.

BTW I like the fact that AV is wind, have fun RDM. Wonder what you will be doing during that fight. :wink: Probably your favorite activity.

Jailer of Love has been beaten once. Just because nuking him a lot worked doesn't mean there isn't another strategy or trick that works better. That's how all of these new things go - they start being impossible and eventually are completely figured out, and routinely killed with a machined precision.

The difference being that you many people can try strategies on all the other mobs quite regularly. When only a couple of LS can have the patience of popping JoL and even then only once in a long while, how long til the trick is worked out?

Guess we'll have to have Bards silence AV.

[Parshias]

Did anyone try to silence him or was that a spur of the moment thing >_>

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If people are smart enough to get far enough to AV, they are most likely smart enough to try to silence it. Especially if they are getting raped by spells.

Did they try curing? I find that when my party takes dmg, using a cure spell helps to keep them alive.

BTW I like the fact that AV is wind, have fun RDM. Wonder what you will be doing during that fight. :wink: Probably your favorite activity.

Jailer of Love has been beaten once. Just because nuking him a lot worked doesn't mean there isn't another strategy or trick that works better. That's how all of these new things go - they start being impossible and eventually are completely figured out, and routinely killed with a machined precision.

The difference being that you many people can try strategies on all the other mobs quite regularly. When only a couple of LS can have the patience of popping JoL and even then only once in a long while, how long til the trick is worked out?

The key to defeating AV is to take it on with 18 RDM/NIN, melee style.

[Ohemgee]

(sacrifice every taru in the ls)

Pg20 ftw

[Seii]

I wonder why no one has suggested 3-4 monks with R5 knuckles pounding on JoL as a way to combat regen.

Then again I don't know much about JoL. Does it have really bad aoes? Like enough to drain 2 or 3 dedicated white mages?

Vitriolic Barrage - AoE damage, highest damage around 200
Ion Shower - AoE damage, 200-400 damage
Concussive Oscillation - stronger AoE damage, highest 'normal' damage around 884 (a RDM ate it for 2,102 damage). Can be absorbed by shadows.
Primal Drill - stronger AoE damage, 400+ damage
Fluorescence - The Jailer of Love gains the effect of Boost. It would hit a pimped-out PLD tank for 800 damage after a boosted, regular hit.
Luminous Drape - AoE Charm

Additionally, Jailer of Love used the following spells.

Slowga
Bindga
Graviga
Blindga
Dispelga
Breakga
Diaga III
Poisonga II
Sleepga II
Thunder IV
Thundaga III
Aeroga III
Waterga III
Stonega III
Banish III
Banishga III

Curious though, are these all instant casts? If they aren't then a bunch of melees using multi-attack weapons or monks might be viable, interrupt any spells by hitting it a lot ;x

Nah, JoL is teh gimpzorz. He has standard spell cast speed for all his III -ga's and debuffs.

But those TP abilities have nasty effects too, like 200/tick poison I believe for Vitriolic Barrage, and Concussive Oscillation was knock back and Gravity if I remember correctly along with the highest damage AOE.

[Janice]

While AV is out, pop the JoL when the ??? comes back. JoL will then rape AV and it will no longer be virtuous. It will be a very sinful act and as a result, all the sins will drop and you can collect your prize.

[Ashen]

Omfg, for the first time ever I'm proud to be on Pandy

[Janice]

That reminds me, the key to winning is to accidentally agro the true sight mobs. I'm pretty sure that will somehow kill AV.

[Lilmage]

possibility:

AV had 6 2hrs mentioned in pics

Soul Voice
Mighty Strikes
Chainspell
Manafont
Hundred Fists
Blood Weapon

Maybe the 6 jobs are BLM/BRD/RDM/MNK/WAR/DRK? Corrosponding to the wyverns? This could be what is meant by the 6 .dat files in FF

[Shinigami]

This makes me think that the gm's and SE have someone watching linkshells that do these mobs. I mean hell they have people watch the nidhogg fights right? same concept. There were prolly a good 3-5 gm's there watching this fight.

Can you imagine on their side:

"Hey phil , this is Bob, yeah some LS on Pandamonium just finished off Jailor of Love Lets see how they handle the big one"

Groups maybe hundreds of people on server side of SE/GM's were prolly watching this event take place. Because it really is just that, a huge game breaking event, like the first pop of kirin, or dynamis lord. (I remeber seeing some gm's go along with some LS for a dynamis run to watch the action)

What do you guys think?

[Septimus]

The obvious solution then would be to simply throw in the towel on Al'Taieu gods. If the rewards aren't worth it to you, don't go after them. If you get to Absolute Virtue and wipe, well idk what to say other than oh well. They are worth it to some people, and those people will most likely pioneer a strategy for defeating Absolute Virtue.

If all FFXI boils down to for you is having pre-determined 100% win strategies for every mob in the game just so that you can equip some new item which doesn't really help you anyway since you only fight mobs which you had a 100% win strategy for even before you had this cool new item, then just accept that that's what the game is to you, move on, forget about Absolute Virtue, and go back to killing the 3 kings. If you value your time more than you value an Aureole, a Futsu no mitama, or a Novia earring, then move on and forget about Absolute Virtue. Apparently, just like relic weapons, these items simply are meant for only a select few people in the game. If that's not acceptable to you, take the stance than many already have adpoted with upgraded relic weapons and forget about ever having one, and move on to things that interest you more in the game.

If on the other hand the items are worth it to you, then you have no reason to complain about a monster being hard because you determined beforehand that you are willing to accept the time consuming nature of farming the pops and possibly wiping to any of the Jailers or Absolute Virtue and losing months worth of pops. If you don't agree to that, just don't go after them. Either it's worth it to you, or it's not. Make a decision.

Amen.

This is about sums up what i think or was trying to say when i said i like the endgame mob. but yea spawning right on top of JoL is pretty vicious.

and btw the peopl who do do this. and someone eventually will. will probably not be forgot for as long as FF is up. im sure Bg is interested in that, so i don't see why when u get a challenge that could make ur ls #1 forever it results in ur attitude...

There are two distinct conversations going on in this thread now. You are talking about how it's an awesome challenge and blah blah bullshit, everyone else is trying to explain to you why sea is a nightmare.

BG loves a good challenge, but there comes a point after you spent 5 hours in sea for one Jailer of Love pop to get boned on the drop when you say "Well, that really bettered my life, let's do this all month long."

Better yet, get to sea, try to pop the Jailers then tell people who have been there for months now that we are being Gloomy Gusses and need to turn our frowns up-side down.

[Alleya]

I see it all so clearly now! The secret is an 18 samurai alliance spamming Tachi: Gekko to silence it!

[Seii]

possibility:

AV had 6 2hrs mentioned in pics

Soul Voice
Mighty Strikes
Chainspell
Manafont
Hundred Fists
Blood Weapon

Maybe the 6 jobs are BLM/BRD/RDM/MNK/WAR/DRK? Corrosponding to the wyverns? This could be what is meant by the 6 .dat files in FF

Had he more then that, he had Call Wyvern, Perfect Dodge, Meiyo... ya, and eagle eye shot are some others I personally observed.

[Samis]

again, wtf else do you have to do? if u don't wanna spend the time don't. im not saying its worth it. in not sayin ur ls getting everyone sea acess isnt bomb, im not saying the jailor drops are appropriate, in not saying any of that. u guys are assuming so many things...however when ur ls leader pops off for a post i put out as a +, not a - and spins it on me cuz they are angry and think i don't respect the guys who have done it because he can, well......

you can explain how shitty sea is over and over again. but that was never what i was getting at, like i think spending countless hours for nothing is worth it to anybody. i just would <3 to see this monster fall. and if my ls isnt capable of doing it then i root on the next best thing. the top Na ls...

and the two thread thing, ur right. my post started out of amazment and excitement of a fuggin incredible challenge. yet im a bad guy/ignorant for thinking the challenge SE threw down as the end all of FF is ok. u BG guys need to get ur head on straight and know when someone is just saying wow how cool i hope one day u beat it and not dissing ur accomplishments.

and btw, no one from BG will ever dictate whether or not i like/dislike, or think certain parts of the game are interesting.

[Ohemgee]

What did the people do in Jeepers Creepers? Theres a resemblence between AV and that thing.

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[Janice]

What did the people do in Jeepers Creepers? Theres a resemblence between AV and that thing.

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The creeper is a BLM

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/2...pers2014gw.jpg

So you just need 80 people just like him to overpower him..... 80 BLM for the win.

[Orfeo]

In jeepers creepers 2 (can't remember 1) they used a giant harpoon gun thing to kill it.

DRAGOON OK?

[Janice]

again, wtf else do you have to do? if u don't wanna spend the time don't. im not saying its worth it. in not sayin ur ls getting everyone sea acess isnt bomb, im not saying the jailor drops are appropriate, in not saying any of that. u guys are assuming so many things...however when ur ls leader pops off for a post i put out as a +, not a - and spins it on me cuz they are angry and think i don't respect the guys who have done it because he can, well.......

Can you shut up about this + - crap? Lets see, you called a bunch of people fools and your post is positive. ok. People aren't pissed it is so hard. I'm pretty sure BG or any other LS would love to lose tens of thousands of xp trying to figure this mob out. What does piss people off is the amount of BS you have to go through to even get to this point.

And I have always been personally pissed at the FFXI party system which handicaps groups the larger they get. Oh party only spells, oh can only see 18 people's hp and mp, oh target loss when changing equip.