Jailer of Love - Pandemonium Server

[bercus]

well i think main problem is also the adds, so these can be trained away by RNG and THF to keep em busy and away from the other alliance.

then : Stoneskin, Blink, damn even maybe Light defense equip, i think Dark staff? duno there must be maybe a way.

Have to find out what enfeebles can land, did NINs land enfeebles?

BARD and BLM didnt as i can see on SS.

[Coco]

It is my personal belief that a level cap increase is coming. Perhaps 80, perhaps 85. Look at this like Dynamis. A full Dynamis run of all level 65s would be a laughingstock because everyone would get their asses handed to them. But a full Dynamis run of all level 75's can pretty easily handle Dynamis, with the possible exception of things gone wrong here and there. We may look back on this and laugh and say "omg I can't believe we tried this at level 75..." And for all you guys out there who are against a level cap increase, people were against the level cap increase to 75 as well, because then "every melee would sub SATA" (that's an actual quote from someone, but I'm not going to dig through 3 years of KI forums to find it) and look how well that worked out.

Coco's vote: Level cap increase coming!!! We can beat this soon!!

By no means will it be easy by then, but it will be possible.

[Isildur]

A level cap would be pretty cool if SE actually made answers for the problems they'd have, one being how ridiculous /RDM would be. I still think trading x12 Ex organs to that chick could give some "dispel" item for each jailer, maybe trading x12 Aern organs or x12 Yovra organs would give something to dispel "crazy-fucking-beat-yo-ass-in-DoT" regen and AV's insane insta cast magic?

[Kunami]

the reason JPs were saying large amounts of people were needed to kill mobs that we think are easy is probably because of all the new, more powerful gear that has been released. igqira, abj gear, etc.

[Coco]

A level cap would be pretty cool if SE actually made answers for the problems they'd have, one being how ridiculous /RDM would be.

"every melee would sub SATA"

[Moochi]

"every melee would sub SATA"

Huh? You could do that at lvl 60.

[Fira]

A level cap would be pretty cool if SE actually made answers for the problems they'd have, one being how ridiculous /RDM would be.

"every melee would sub SATA"

every melee can do that now... sneak attack is 15 and trick is 30.

[Coco]

A level cap would be pretty cool if SE actually made answers for the problems they'd have, one being how ridiculous /RDM would be.

"every melee would sub SATA"

every melee can do that now... sneak attack is 15 and trick is 30.

-.-;;; Fira wins the "I didn't read the post this quote came from" award.

Anyways, I found this on Alla's forums:

Maybe SE will let Blue Mages learn the Spectral Barrier (spell immunity) ability (like those magic pots) and it will take 18 BLUs to pwn it cuz they have a chance in hell of surviving the magic spam-fest o.O

interesting thought.

[Sekkite]

What about the 2000 damage medua javelin attacks or the 400 damage base rounds?

[Ichthyos]

What about the 2000 damage medua javelin attacks or the 400 damage base rounds?

Medusa Javelin is blinkable.

[Not Kuno]

Best way to beat it is get Shadow Rings for all your LS members.

[Razz]

So I guess the requirement to fight AV is to have everyone equipping a shadow ring?

[Progenitor]

30-40 BLM, All need to get as much +Dark skill as they can and ES+Aspir old school style, until AV is drained of MP!

Figure 20, 30 minutes tops to drain him of all MP and then start damageing him?

-p

[Axil]

All the cool shit happens when im alseep ~.~

[rahskala]

Holy robot zombie Jesus, that thing looks nasty.

[FFXIFlux]

AEs are one of the big reasons melee are gimp. This mob having many instant cast massive AEs is just ridiculously bad. They already had to resort to 30 BLM just to take on Love. For AV you need 30 summoners to send in the avatar then run halfway across the zone so they don't get raped.

18x Garuda ftw.

[Fire]

30-40 BLM, All need to get as much +Dark skill as they can and ES+Aspir old school style, until AV is drained of MP!

Figure 20, 30 minutes tops to drain him of all MP and then start damageing him?

-p

in dat files, meteor only takes 1mp to use, they could simply give it a hiddn mp regen

[divisortheory]

I can't help but think that people are going about this the wrong way. The development team can beat all these monsters with their team of "thirty to forty people". Non development team cannot. It seems like the general strategy people employ when fighting something crazy like this is just throw as many BLM as you possibly can at it. Maybe that's the problem. We know SE has been hinted at nerfing BLMs for a while, maybe these mobs are specifically designed with some weird property that if you throw a shit load of BLM at it, you'll get fucking owned.

[Axil]

We know SE has been hinted at nerfing BLMs for a while, maybe these mobs are specifically designed with some weird property that if you throw a shit load of BLM at it, you'll get fucking owned.

Cant be stunned~

And somenoe said it takes 50% magic damage

[Sekkite]

I can't help but think that people are going about this the wrong way. The development team can beat all these monsters with their team of "thirty to forty people". Non development team cannot. It seems like the general strategy people employ when fighting something crazy like this is just throw as many BLM as you possibly can at it. Maybe that's the problem. We know SE has been hinted at nerfing BLMs for a while, maybe these mobs are specifically designed with some weird property that if you throw a shit load of BLM at it, you'll get fucking owned.

If thats the case then that NM will be unbeatable. If something has spams circlular-area wide AOEs and can't be beat with mass BLMs and ranger can't deal all the damage, then it is just unbeatable with how the player base knows how to kill stuff.