A Midgard First!

[threevo]

we understand nneon and stokes are friends with armanie and its blinding you from the fact armanie is a lootwhore and only came to nidhogg for the sole reason of getting items. I bet he didnt even contribute to the fight in any way. Maybe you would understand if you were on the other end camping day 6 Nidhoggs from window 1 -> death with 1-2 other people while ppl like armanie farm spider webs all day. Its a joke PVs lotting system because it benefits the loot whores like armanie and drew who quit/afk and get hours/give themselves 100 extra hours when they control it, and they are set for life. All you can hope is that they pass on one of the items eventually. AKA not drew who took mfeet mlegs mbody before any other PLD got an abj. Then stopped showing up to things unless it was to speedhack or mrargus Aspids. (grats to LV on that dalmatica btw, mragrus gives u his best)

[asylum]

Neon, Stokes, both of you are retarded. Armanie was not BST main in the linkshell, was acting extremely childish and rude about it when the abjuration dropped, and didn't even help camp Nidhogg.

Oh nneon is probably the dumbest person on this server close to stefoni but stokes is a fucking genious i demand you apologize to stocks this instant

[Neon]

Neon, Stokes, both of you are retarded. Armanie was not BST main in the linkshell, was acting extremely childish and rude about it when the abjuration dropped, and didn't even help camp Nidhogg.

Sekkite can you not read?! is this Land of Sekkite LS? don't answer that. No we are talking about Pandavas LS remember the one that disbanded the alliance? Ok for the 8th fucking time.... Armaine has BST 2nd main job and Pandavas let's members that have 2nd main Lot on items if they have enough hours. Hence he did, so he gets to lot! omg rocket scencie owe my head~ don't call someone retarded just because you are ingorant and cannot read, maybe you should go play in traffic w/ zetah&marxeno.

[Sekkite]

Neon, Stokes, both of you are retarded. Armanie was not BST main in the linkshell, was acting extremely childish and rude about it when the abjuration dropped, and didn't even help camp Nidhogg.

Sekkite can you not read?! is this Land of Sekkite LS? don't answer that. No we are talking about Pandavas LS remember the one that disbanded the alliance? Ok for the 8th fucking time.... Armaine has BST 2nd main job and Pandavas let's members that have 2nd main Lot on items if they have enough hours. Hence he did, so he gets to lot! omg rocket scencie owe my head~ don't call someone retarded just because you are ingorant and cannot read, maybe you should go play in traffic w/ zetah&marxeno.

I kinda stopped reading the thread shortly after Marxeno posted. So I was wrong about the main job lotting thing. Can you dispute the acting childish and rude part and the part where Armanie didn't even help camp Nidhogg?

[Neon]

lol just stating the facts, if there was any leadership in the LS as soon as he started shouting his pearl should of been droped like a virgin on her wedding night imo. ya your defently right about that; but once you get to lil boys together the onther one will allways try to to be the bigger person, and by bigger i mean childish~ and that's where marxeno comes in to save the day! /goodbye e.body.

[Stokes]

rofl, nneon is right for once?!?!? My whole world is falling apart before my very eyes ; ;

Seriously, how do you read part of a thread, then flame people who know what their talking about. . . durrrrrrrrrr

[Neon]

Splooge or whoever the fuk you are, for one iam not friends w/ armaine(yes i once was until he tried to MPK me and i had called a GM on him and got him banned)nor does armaine like me. But yes stokes&aslyum are in my LS.

[asylum]

correction nneon you are in mine and stokes ls kthx

[Neon]

/breaklinkpearl asylum

[Romero]

/breaklinkpearl asylum

Bet hearts are broken all over the world tonight.

[Neon]

lol

[Zigma]

sup guyzzzz



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[Cohibu]

sup guyzzzz



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NSFW
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[Romero]

God damn, that just goes beyond the limits of good taste.

Looks like some sick fuck bangin an infant. Are you Michael Jackson by any chance?

Thriller was hot back in '84

[Andarvi]

disturbing on so many levels cant...begin....to..comprehend.....

[Epical]

I love the sky/tree/grass textures. :D

[Rawk]

so glad i wasnt at work for that one

[Darm]

It looks consensual to me.

[asylum]

Well PV hasnt had much luck with leaders check out what this past leader a total idiot and a loser did its a post by ricckky(one of pvs new leaders) discribing how he got the stolen dynamis currency back from fawk(a former pv leader boy what a mistake)


Right after Dynamis, I go ahead and ask Fawk for the currency. I also see if I can get Ogwillow to change his mind about leaving PV, but after I see Fawk's response (at the bottom), I forget all about Ogwillow.




This pic is a little smaller so enlarge it if you have to. Basically, it is me asking Fawk to hand over the currency, which should have been all I had to say. As you can see, he's taken a personal claim to the currency since he's the leader of PPGame. You can see he even tells me I'll have to remove him from PV because he's not giving up the currency.

At this point, I think my blood pressure sky-rocketted. But I knew I needed to keep my calm in order to work this situation out. It took every muscle in my body to restrain me from breaking his PV pearl and deleting PPGame from the website. BTW, I never got back to Ogwillow. He still has the pearl and LS items.




OK in this screenshot, I enhanced my calm and entered into a negotiation status. As you can see, I started asking him for his reasonings for not giving the currency to PV. He references a PM I sent to him. Fuck. I didn't save my reply to my sent items. I was going to CC you guys like always, except my CC box was gone. I fixed that last night (Saturday). This PM was sent on October 28 (Thursday) evening just before I left work.


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Fawk

I need you to transfer the Dynamis currency you have to my mule tonight. Going to try to award some soon. Thx.


Sure, do i have a say with sekzy on what is happening with the currency since we run PPgame?


I told him that yeah everyone would have a say in where the currency went, but it would be the PV officers that make the final decisions. I told him that as of now, Kenz would be the first recipient since he's the first to ask and is close to his final stage. I told him that Drew and TC would come later after we see how much Kenz wants to buy. I told him that Pninja has agreed with Kenz on a purchase price of 5k.

As you can see from the screenshot, he is very much against Kenz, TC, or Drew receiving any of the currency. He even goes off on how Kenz afk's in Dynamis, which was unimportant to this conversation. He doesn't want us to sell it to either TC, Drew, or Kenz because he says they don't come to Dynamis. Also he is pissed that we agreed to sell the currency to Kenz for 5k. However, he does think it should be sold, but he wants it sold to people outside of the LS who will pay market price. But at this point, he has basically said that he is not giving the currency to PV.





OK here he goes on further about wanting to sell the currency. Now one of his true reasons for holding it is revealed. He mentions that the LS was going to sell it to Kenz for pennies and he is against that. As you can see, he wants it sold for a much higher price. He is against the idea of PV rewarding the currency to members. He wants it sold no matter what. Notice he mentions "on a related note, the ls does not post anything public anymore about funds or purchases". I explained to him about Pnin being away for a while, but this sentence is a key. What he's really saying is that he thinks PV is about to break and that he wants to keep the currency for himself to sell and possibly make his own LS. Remember when he ranted at Pninja about that Body going to Krenna? In his post he said something like he would leave the LS or go somewhere else or start his own LS or something like that. I think that's his master plan if he feels PV is going to break.

Also, you can see Minions' discussion about TeamJP. I tried telling him to wait a sec or send it to me in a PM, but he's adamant I speak with him now.





Here you can see where he mentions more of the demise of PV. I guess the 2 people he mentions are me and Krel. Not sure. However, he did say I am unapproachable. That hurt. Krel this is when you magically appear before us from out of Dynamis I guess.

Here he also says something about me "demanding" the currency. I never recall demanding the currency. The only 2 times I mentioned the currency to him was in my PM above (I even said Thx) and then with this conversation tonight. But by listening to him talk, I now know that he never intended to hand over the currency. Even when Pnin asked him for a count (2 or 3 times a couple months ago), I believe he had already made up his mind that he was going to be the one that dictates where the currency goes, not PV.




OK here we have Minions being persistent that I listen to him. I ask him for 15 minutes and he gets upset. Also, I had to black list that spammer.

OK now we've gotten somewhere. I managed to convince him that I think we should sell the currency also. As you can see, he's now acting all noble and wants the gil to go to the LS members. He wants the gil to move out of the officer's hands and back to the members. Wow he's a true hero for the PV members. The plan was to reward members with the gil. I just think he's trying to save face. He doesn't give a shit about other PV members. He just doesn't want Kenz and the others to have the currency. He wants to make them pay full price for it because he knows they don't have the gil to buy it. However, notice he says that we have currency on a PV mule and that since both he and PV officers have some currency, it should be hard to sell. Even though we've agreed to sell the currency, we didn't say which mule it would come from (PV's or his). This could pose a problem if he demands we sell the currency from the PV mule before we sell the currency he's holding.




Here we are starting to bond again. Notices he says that he will probably be booted once the curreny is "dried up". In an effort of goodwill, I of course try to persuade him that I'm a man of my word and that I'd never do such a thing. Now of course I was lying my ass off. As you can see I try to alleviate his concerns about future rewards. Now that we've set a price and a process to get the currency, I attempt to strengthen the trust between us by paying for the last 3 Dynamis runs. Now keep in mind that this is rather painful for me to sit here and play buddy buddy with someone I despise, but I must stay focused and be nice. He has the currency and the upper hand. But I did manage to get a count of what currency he has on his mule. Whether or not its accurate, I don't know.




OK and here we've finally reached an agreement. Whether or not it works, is yet to be seen. Here he also gives his "real" reason for not turning over the currency. He's right. It was about trust, and he broke that trust by not giving us the currency when we asked for it. Basically, he's holding the currency hostage. I also ask him about obtaining attestations for members. Also you can see more of Minion's discussion at the bottom.




This is mostly Minions talking about his issue, but Fawk wants to set a rule (near the bottom) that if PV buys for a discount, they can't resell. I'll address Minion's issue in another post.


In conclusion, the plan is as follows. We announce we are selling the currency. We will sell what Fawk has first (that's my plan). People are to pay a PV officer the gil and then go to Fawk to receive the currency.

Krel I will need the LS bank unless you want to handle this fiasco. I don't think its fair to tell Kenz we will let him buy currency for 5K and now tell him that he has to pay twice as much because Fawk doesn't like him and refuses to give PV the currency. My plan is to give Kenz whatever money he needs to buy some currency. Then he just trades the gil back to me (has to be screenshotted since Fawk wants a screenshot). Then I tell Fawk to give Kenz XXX amount of currency.

The reason I want to do this is to keep as much of the currency as possible inside the LS instead of selling it to outsiders. Fawk doesn't see it this way, but I'm thru with him. I'll also try to get Drew and TC to do the same thing as Kenz. I don't want Kenz purchasing 100 million worth of currency in a week. Fawk might get suspicious that the LS is funnelling them money to puchase LS currency....sounds like a god damn comedy movie doesn't it? We have to give people LS money so they can pay us to buy LS property....

I've removed Drew's and Armanie's access to this forum. This is what I sent Drew about an hour ago:


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Drew I need to take away your access to the Officers forum temporarily. I'll explain to you in game. You've done nothing wrong and its has nothing to do with Asylum. There is something I have to discuss with Krelian that absolutely sensitive information. I will need your help too. I'll tell you more in game. Don't mention this PM to anyone except me or Krel. Again, don't feel that you are being demoted or punished in anyway because you're not. You'll understand when I get with you in game.


Rick


I know he'd get into an arguement with Fawk one day and say something about this on the LS. If the LS got wind of this, we'd really have a shitstorm on our hands. A lot of people (at least 12 people) have been coming to me and asking why does Fawk hold the currency. They don't want to see him with it. I've tried to alleviate their concerns by telling them that I was going to get it last night. As far as they are concerned, I did get it. Everyone has been asking about the currency because of Fawk's post in TC's thread about wanting to upgrade his Katana and some other recent posts about Fawk saying PPGame was all his. So people may start asking you guys questions soon. Its not going to be long before they figure something out and sparks start to fly.

Also, I'm not sure how we're going to handle it when we announce we're selling the currency. Lots of people will be pissed because they think we should reward it to PV members instead of selling it. And I agree with them, but with the currency being held hostage, we have to do what we can until we get it back in our hands. I'll have to post publicly that we are selling currency so Fawk can see I'm keeping my part of the deal. I'll take all the heat, because I know people are going to be pissed when I post that. But we are not selling currency to outsiders. Just need to do and post whatever we can until we get most of the currency back. If Fawk gets suspicious that I'm lying to him, he'll probably run off with everything.

I will speak with Kenz, TC, and Drew and try to come up with some kind of story so as to not tell them much of what's going on. They will be the main 3 I use to puchase currency from Fawk. I know he hates all 3 of these guys, but they're the only ones with some gil and want to upgrade. Once they've bought up their limit, we'll have to go to outside buyers. Once we have at least 75% of our currency from Fawk, I don't want to see him in PV again and I'd like to see PPGame removed from this site. If he want to continue running it, he can. But he'll have to fund it himself and find people that will go. No LS time will be awarded.

Snickers I thought about knocking you down to Moderator so you didn't see this. Let us handle it for now plz. Don't say anything to Fawk or anyone else. I know how irrate you can get, unless the wife has made you meek and mild.

So if anyone disagrees with my actions or my plan, let me know now so we can come up with a better solution. If anyone asks either of you who has the currency, tell them that I have it. I really really don't want this shit leaked out to the linkshell until after its over.

Also Krel if you give me the LS bank, I will start rewarding people again. I've gotten questions lately about rewards. And also that will show Fawk that the money is going back to LS members. I know this is one fucked up situation, but the only other way I see to get the currency back is to pay someone to break into his house and log on his mule and transfer the shit to someone. Until we get what we want, we're gonna have to be nice and kiss his ass and act like nothing is out of the ordinary.

[Ragnard]

The Care-o-meter falls to the ground.

;_;