war/nin or mnk?

[Taku]

I will say that Race doesn't play that much of a role while lvling, but end-game is a completely different story, Elvaan have like 8 more str then taru and mithra (w/o) merits which is pretty much 2str rings. Although i've never felt gimped by my race I still won't deny the awesomeness that is an elvaan DD. A good elvaan mnk is sick, the one's that use sushi in krt can get outdamage by a meat-eating whatever.

Well, I won't deny that they do more damage than me. >_< But when you already have like 70+40 STR from gear and such, the racial bonus doesn't make that much more of a difference.

Not sure on MNK, but my War has 66 base STR, and my elvaan friend has 77. =\

[Posterboy]

Get a Rajas Ring and level both.

k 8)

[Romero]

Personally I would go WAR, well I already did but I mean you. Most points have already been made that are vaild.

1) Your LS could use them

2) Versatility

I mean, you could go MNK but I would do that as a secondary. Do what is useful for your LS first and then do MNK to whoop ass. Besides, WAR has great gear choices and options as well as a few decent choices for subs. /NIN and /THF are great. GAX is a killer /THF. Plus if you were to go WAR and add all of the +HP Gear you can get plus /MNK you can be a Spirits Within whore and mass murder. There are a lot of range benefits people have found with WARs which is kick ass since when I started and decided to go WAR people always said "WAR is only good as a subjob"

Now look at them choking on their foot.

Not saying MNK sucks at all. Just a personal preference versatily, LS use, etc should be pretty evident.

[Ichigo]

mmmmm taru asuran fist is just SICK. 8)

[Elcura]

Elcura, what would you say is the best food to use as MNK at 75?(Off topic but curious)

Depends on what you fight, Sushi is good if you're built for it or and a BRD for Double Min, but Meat is usually a winner if you're confident in your hit rate (if you get double min too go you). As attack food, Curry, Hedgehog Pie, Steak and Subs work fine, since they're based on percentages I usually Berserk before eating food (it helps, go figure)

taku edit

Even with 68 (I think) base str +20-58 STR I feel that +8-10 more STR would allow for better damage and WS, also allowing me to use snipers or other accuracy gear without losing too much str but still having a good hit rate... although one thing i have that elves don't is lovely dex, I love my crazy crit rate

[Septimus]

This makes me want to level my WAR. ;_;

[Nny]

Plus if you were to go WAR and add all of the +HP Gear you can get plus /MNK you can be a Spirits Within whore and mass murder.

Spirit's Within is worthless outside of starting the fight with for intial hate when tanking (Although MS+Steel Cyclone blows that away, but not always an option), and /MNK only gives me ~100 more HP over /NIN. \:

WAR is one of those jobs were equipment matters most, and it's the rarest equipment in the game. It took me a year of camping to get a Ridill, 8+ months of which I had sole priority on it. I was the first NA WAR to obtain E.Body on my server, and I didn't get that until this past July. Mind you, my linkshell was basically the ONLY NA linkshell to kill him throughout that year, and until the pop patch, it was basically only us and a JP LS in pit when he was in NA time. So we weren't lacking in claims.

Meanwhile, I'm 2/3 on blackbelt items and my MNK is lv38.

WAR is possibly the most overpowered job in the game if they can engage the mob. I normally deal the highest damage out of everybody in the alliance while tanking...you really can't beat having the highest survivablity and the highest damage in one. When it comes to Kited mobs (KB and Kirin), I again normally come out ontop of damage, but can't kite and DD at the same time I've tanked all CoP Wyrms except Oryou, and WAR's probably make the best tank there if you're using SMN as DD. We've been doing /THF damage lately though, and PLD/NIN is a hell of a lot better then.

When it comes to EXP, I haven't PTed with anybody amazing in awhile but I'd be suprised if I got outdamaged on weapons. With my current setup, my Joyeuse can do 100+ damage a hit with only one minuet and no acid bolts, and I can attack up to 5 times a round with only a ~257 delay after buffs.

A big thing also is having all weapons capped. Using a club main hand against mobs that are weak to blunt REALLY pushes up damage a lot. Having the versatility to swap to any weapon for skillchains while /THF is really really good. You won't be able to match the damage of Steel Cyclone, but Ground Strike is generally a lot better since it's able to open/close Light, Open/close Distortion, and close disotrtion/frag....basically it can open and close the only skillchains that matter, whereas Steel Cyclone is in a shitty slot.

The versatility of Warrior is nothing short of amazing but also the most neglected aspect. I've subbed MNK on Fafnir and matched the hate of PLD/WARs, blink tank, top damage dealer....hell, IRON on Bismark uses WAR's as their main healers. So many people are /NIN and Axe ONRY though that it's depressing. Not that long ago I tried to put togeather an all Warrior v.s. Vrtra run, bringing ~2 alliance worth of Warriors and try to kill him in a matter of seconds.....over half the Warrior's I asked didn't have Steel Cyclone access, so it wasn't possible to get the numbers to do it. It's horrible on my server, the majority of the Warrior's are just.... I'm not saying they're all shitty, we do have some good ones. But we had a really huge boom in people leveling Warrior, and the most of them make me cry in the inside. I miss the days when you could count the number of endgame Warriors on one hand.

A poorly played WAR though is laughable, and it's easy to be a bad Warrior. In order to be a bad MNK, you have to be really really really shitty.

[Sekkite]

Plus if you were to go WAR and add all of the +HP Gear you can get plus /MNK you can be a Spirits Within whore and mass murder.

Spirit's Within is worthless outside of starting the fight with for intial hate when tanking (Although MS+Steel Cyclone blows that away, but not always an option), and /MNK only gives me ~100 more HP over /NIN. \:

WAR is one of those jobs were equipment matters most, and it's the rarest equipment in the game. It took me a year of camping to get a Ridill, 8+ months of which I had sole priority on it. I was the first NA WAR to obtain E.Body on my server, and I didn't get that until this past July. Mind you, my linkshell was basically the ONLY NA linkshell to kill him throughout that year, and until the pop patch, it was basically only us and a JP LS in pit when he was in NA time. So we weren't lacking in claims.

Meanwhile, I'm 2/3 on blackbelt items and my MNK is lv38.

WAR is possibly the most overpowered job in the game if they can engage the mob. I normally deal the highest damage out of everybody in the alliance while tanking...you really can't beat having the highest survivablity and the highest damage in one. When it comes to Kited mobs (KB and Kirin), I again normally come out ontop of damage, but can't kite and DD at the same time I've tanked all CoP Wyrms except Oryou, and WAR's probably make the best tank there if you're using SMN as DD. We've been doing /THF damage lately though, and PLD/NIN is a hell of a lot better then.

When it comes to EXP, I haven't PTed with anybody amazing in awhile but I'd be suprised if I got outdamaged on weapons. With my current setup, my Joyeuse can do 100+ damage a hit with only one minuet and no acid bolts, and I can attack up to 5 times a round with only a ~257 delay after buffs.

A big thing also is having all weapons capped. Using a club main hand against mobs that are weak to blunt REALLY pushes up damage a lot. Having the versatility to swap to any weapon for skillchains while /THF is really really good. You won't be able to match the damage of Steel Cyclone, but Ground Strike is generally a lot better since it's able to open/close Light, Open/close Distortion, and close disotrtion/frag....basically it can open and close the only skillchains that matter, whereas Steel Cyclone is in a shitty slot.

The versatility of Warrior is nothing short of amazing but also the most neglected aspect. I've subbed MNK on Fafnir and matched the hate of PLD/WARs, blink tank, top damage dealer....hell, IRON on Bismark uses WAR's as their main healers. So many people are /NIN and Axe ONRY though that it's depressing. Not that long ago I tried to put togeather an all Warrior v.s. Vrtra run, bringing ~2 alliance worth of Warriors and try to kill him in a matter of seconds.....over half the Warrior's I asked didn't have Steel Cyclone access, so it wasn't possible to get the numbers to do it. It's horrible on my server, the majority of the Warrior's are just.... I'm not saying they're all shitty, we do have some good ones. But we had a really huge boom in people leveling Warrior, and the most of them make me cry in the inside. I miss the days when you could count the number of endgame Warriors on one hand.

A poorly played WAR though is laughable, and it's easy to be a bad Warrior. In order to be a bad MNK, you have to be really really really shitty.

I'm convined on what job I should take up as my third.

[Raineer]

I'm convinced on what job I should take up as my third.

Same...lol

I played war to 37 and even at that level already tagged it the "RDM of the melee world" due to it's incredible versatility. Mine will be 75 next, and I've already spent an ungodly amount of my CC profits on it... :/ goddamn this is a pricey job haha.

[Orfeo]

Spirit's Within is worthless outside of starting the fight with for intial hate when tanking (Although MS+Steel Cyclone blows that away, but not always an option), and /MNK only gives me ~100 more HP over /NIN. \:

Poor hume D: /MNK gives me an extra ~240, plus the 10 from that /mnk earring (i use nq pigeon earrings ;x).

Not that long ago I tried to put togeather an all Warrior v.s. Vrtra run, bringing ~2 alliance worth of Warriors and try to kill him in a matter of seconds.....over half the Warrior's I asked didn't have Steel Cyclone access, so it wasn't possible to get the numbers to do it. It's horrible on my server, the majority of the Warrior's are just.... I'm not saying they're all shitty, we do have some good ones. But we had a really huge boom in people leveling Warrior, and the most of them make me cry in the inside. I miss the days when you could count the number of endgame Warriors on one hand.

I know what you mean.. :/

Even warriors with full god sets and like 50m in gear don't have steel cyclone. Two in my linkshell (no offense guys ) have the most insane /nin gear possible, but both are still leveling up great axe. Oh, and I remember when /sea all 75 war would occaisionally yeild me and only me ,_,

[Nny]

Poor hume D: /MNK gives me an extra ~240, plus the 10 from that /mnk earring (i use nq pigeon earrings ;x).

Nerf galkas.

[Sadler]

I say -

Quit

[Orfeo]

Galka's are nerfed... see galkan mages ;x

[layoneil]

I'm convined on what job I should take up as my third.

me too, i'm a lazy ass and definitely not going to put that much effort into a melee job. MNK it is.

[Orfeo]

lol sendoh

You should pull a mifaco, become the most elitist prick ever then level monk with horrible gear

[Nny]

Galka's are nerfed... see galkan mages ;x

*thinks of Galka Mages*

*Sees Galka Mages in their RSE*

OH GOD MY EYES! THEY BURRRRRRRRRRN!

[Orfeo]

Galka's are nerfed... see galkan mages ;x

*thinks of Galka Mages*

*Sees Galka Mages in their RSE*

OH GOD MY EYES! THEY BURRRRRRRRRRN!

My bad <.<

[Taku]

Galka's are nerfed... see galkan mages ;x

*thinks of Galka Mages*

*Sees Galka Mages in their RSE*

OH GOD MY EYES! THEY BURRRRRRRRRRN!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...alkasuxomg.jpg

[Septimus]

Galka's are nerfed... see galkan mages ;x

*thinks of Galka Mages*

*Sees Galka Mages in their RSE*

OH GOD MY EYES! THEY BURRRRRRRRRRN!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...alkasuxomg.jpg

Lucky little Taru...

[Xavier]

You should pull a mifaco, become the most elitist prick ever then level monk with horrible gear

I remember in his live journal he wrote about every job in the game, and I think with mnk he said, "they do good dmg but require so much mp to maintain that they ruin the xp in any pt lvling up, and on top of that they can't skillchain for shit until 60."

Then I see him lvling mnk and I lol'ed.