We use Rangers all the time for SCs.
Sea Jailer's Drop 100% on pop items.
Sea Jailer's Loot pool to be deeper, like sky.
Ouryu, Vrtra, Jour, and Tiamat Loot pool much more deeper.
Merit point revamp; new skills, new merit caps, and more.
More wyrms or wyrm lvl end game mobs added.
3 King HQs Pop more frequent than 3-7 days.
Other. (type below)
We use Rangers all the time for SCs.
WAR/NIN Party in Uleguarand Range 12k/hour for the win. I'm sure other melee jobs can earn just as much.
Guess what, I want IT+++ so I can be in a normal party again...seriously. I staticed from 63 to 75 with brd/rng/drk/pld and either a whm or a rdm depending on what we were taking. Now, my only choice for xp is: 1)taking an invite from a thf/drg/pld/whm/crappy rdm that can't get a real pt for 3-4k/hour 2)main healing a crappy mnk pt for 4-5k/hour 3)pity invite from my ls smn's for 4-5k/hour and high chance of death 4)manaburn for 6k/hour or 5)solo for 2-3k hour.
All of those options SUCK in terms of fun. I hate them, because I'm not challenged at all (excpet in the smn pt, and even then, I do one nuke and hope the mob dies)...I just sit there bascially, not doing any of the small things I did in my static to get 8-10k. Like doing the na's on the drk, or free nuking to get that chain 5 420+, or spamming cure III on the pld to kill aquarius at 66...that stuff was FUN. Now, I sit around, maybe MB maybe not, it doesn't matter because either way the mob dies. It's so depressing...I really hate it.
Oh, and no one got 10k/hour on those aern elementals. Asusming 1 elemental every 45 seconds (should be 1 minute, but I've giving you benefit), and average elemental gave 120 xp (more like 100 average, but again, benefit to you), that's 9600xp/hour. In reality, it was closer to 8000 or less (1 elemental per minute at average 120 xp is 7200xp/hour)
I think the point is. If you are not xxx job, you are not going to get great EXP. Period.
THF/DRG/DRK ftw!Originally Posted by Faranim
Ever taken a thf to an ulegard party? They are AWESOME on demons. Dunno why, but when i took my thf buddy thrillhouse, his WS's would average in the high 900's sometimes breaking 1k. Dont overlook them, they're hawt.Originally Posted by Sekkite
err.... the other day i was in KRT in a exp pt, most chain was 25 and it was 10k an hour, we coulda done better, only 1 mnk had black belt and one of em had mnk af1 still but with other good shit, there is nothing, i mean nothing, that can do better than the mnk pt :3
You make it sound like all 75MNK must have Black Belt.Originally Posted by Takeno
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Fucking amen to that. Surely I'm not the only Bard here who wants to go back to the way we used to play?Originally Posted by edgarfigaro
Man, I'm sorry, I really tried my best but I couldn't find the point in this >_<!Wait wait, you mean your linkshell hardly throws rangers at HNMs anymore? They're obsolete? Why, that sounds familiar. Wait wait....ah damn. I can't give any pity.
Take a second and recap what you've said in your previous posts, and notice how you are more or less contradicting yourself. Hm... Anyhow, I don't know why you brought up any of that, RNG aren't the powerhouse they used to be, and while they still have their uses... So do DRG. Does that mean they're OMGBUFF? Nope. I rest my case.
I'm a BLM that hates BLM PTs...Originally Posted by Russta
Yar, I'm LFG on BLM right now and turned down an invite to manaburn already. Hand me a Paladin and a few Samurai, please.
You can sort of find that experience environment in sea, if you are good. The Aerns on the second level of RuHmet are IT+, and there is a good camp where you can pull up to 6 (though with reraises, you can probably squeeze 2 chain5s at least out of them) then move over to other side for another 3 (in a chain, so you can keep going). The camps are on the bridges Almost all give 200+ xp a kill, and you actually CAMP to kill them, with a puller and all... back2the bard basics... brd can rarely sleep them so they couldnt be great pullers if they wanted to anyways. AND its not a full melee show. blm dmg isnt cut, and melee dmg isnt as good as it would be on VT weapons. So skillchains and some BLMs for MBs and such are good ideas again.
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The camps i speak of are on the bridge type structures southeast and southwest of the teleporter. I'm sure there are other great camps in the zone though. We've pulled upwards of 8k/hr with non-optimal setups the times we've gone, and the fights werent as much of a joke as a decorative weapon.
Every single BLM I've ever done anything with in there refuses to MB with anything besides thunder 4 or thundaga 3 despite the aerns being extremely strong to light and weak to darkness SCs.
Thanks for the info, I didn't know that, but I'll pass it on to my LS and hopefully get some regular PT's up there and see what its like.
Also, the Thunder magic onry thing is an obsession with busting big numbers. Blizzard does fine on MB, but... ehh. After a while Thunder is ingrained in your mind
Invite me. I don't care the SC... You make it, I'll MB with whatever it is.. Hell, Stone IV !Originally Posted by Sekkite
Originally Posted by Okan
Stone IV is MP efficient too!
Seriously... You have no idea how much fun the last "normal" XP PT I was in was... PLD and two melee (I can't remember jobs), WHM, BRD... KRT by Vrtra door... It was just great.
Eh, well, I honestly don't know how much of a damage increase thundaga 3/thunder 4 is over blizzaga 3/blizzard 3 at level 75. If the damage increase is more then the SC damage increase, then I'd agree to doing light SC. I'd love to do an xp party in Sea though.