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  1. #1
    Bagel
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    CLAUSTRUM (Relic Staff Final Stage) Question

    The summary for Claustrum statistic on my server's website was from Allakhazam(leader claims it is reference and in no way accurate)... it said that with under 100% TP you get 3mp/tick refresh...



    Claustrum hidden effect
    Posted @ Sun, Sep 11th 7:01 AM 2005
    By: Auraeon
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    Score: Excellent [4.50] Claustrum
    DMG:72 Delay:390
    Latent effect: Accuracy+20
    Additional effect: Dispel
    Hidden effect: Adds "Refresh" effect

    The refresh effect is 3 MP per tick and works only with less than 100% TP, making this staff godly because it can replace HQ staves for SMN, and does massive damage Spirit Taker, so it saves a SMN incredible amounts of MP. The +20 accuracy with Optical Hat, peacock charm, and Life belt means SMN can build TP very fast, deal huge damage with Spirit Taker while restoring their own MP, it would allow you to keep out Avatars infinitly, even making your level 70 blood pacts free.

    I do around 120 damage Spirit Taker to tough monsters as SMN with HQ elemental staves, Claustrum has twice the DMG, so a logical guess would conclude that on average, you could restore 240 MP with Spirit Taker and Claustrum. Level 70 Blood pacts only cost 164 MP, and Avatars drain 70 MP every 30 seconds, Delay on the staff is 390, so about 4 seconds per swing, and each swing gives about 12 TP, thats about 8 swings for 100% TP. 8 times 4 is 32, so it takes 32 seconds to get 100%, meaning you restore 240 MP every 30 seconds (or maybe even more), making your Avatars free, even when using their level 70 blood pacts.

    This staff would allow a Summoner to dish out more damage than any other job, no matter the circumstances, and the summoner would never run out of MP, so infinity amount of huge damage. I'd say its worth the 1.5 billion gil needed to get it.

    (Third upgrade alone costs 900,000,000 gil, if nothing is farmed.)

    Edited, Sun Sep 11 07:08:17 2005


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    Auraeon: LV75WHM 75SMN 66BRD
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    but a previous post in that thread states that:



    Real dates
    Posted @ Sat, Oct 22nd 10:42 PM 2005
    By: Umisame
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    Score: Decent [2.98] This staff is very very good:
    Criticals x 3.
    High damage per hit.

    Gate of Tartarus:
    100 TP = 8mp/tic refresh for 20 sec.
    200 TP = 8mp/tic refresh for 40 sec.
    300 TP = 8mp/tic refresh for 60 sec.

    *can stack with refresh(of rdm) and ballads.
    With this staff you can be a melee in xp party.

    http://img477.imageshack.us/img477/407/caile014ua.jpg



    Edited, Sat Oct 22 23:52:10 2005


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    SMN75-(ANZANA)-Ragnarok
    http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/profile.xml?98770
    Those are TWO different people making TWO different posts saying TWO different things... Now I'm confused.


    I really would like clarification on how refresh is provided, because that makes the difference between a totally worth money/time and a complete waste of money/time. Please and Thanks.

  2. #2
    The God Damn Kuno
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    The WS description in game data says it gives refresh, duration depends on TP. I dunno where people are getting this other 'hidden' refresh from. Seems like 100% bull.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier
    all relics suck except bard horn

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    Quote Originally Posted by layoneil
    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier
    all relics suck except bard horn
    So it sucks that relic weapons let BLMs MB for higher damage then normal?

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    This relic would own for a PLD, XP or HNM I'd so melee with it.

    This > Excalibur

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Kuno
    The WS description in game data says it gives refresh, duration depends on TP. I dunno where people are getting this other 'hidden' refresh from. Seems like 100% bull.
    Which would require you to melee in order to gain refresh from this.

    Waste of 41,500,000 gil.

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    The God Damn Kuno
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    I never said it was worth it regardless. It would need to have Magic Attack Bonus +100% to be worth it.

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    Opo-opo necklace!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sekkite
    Quote Originally Posted by layoneil
    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier
    all relics suck except bard horn
    So it sucks that relic weapons let BLMs MB for higher damage then normal?
    for 500M, ya it does.

    Quote Originally Posted by Charitwo
    Waste of 41,500,000 gil.
    either you're missing a 0, or i need to be on that server.

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    bah

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    Bagel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charitwo
    Waste of 41,500,000 gil.

    either you're missing a 0, or i need to be on that server.
    <3 Dynamis Shell Currency Rates

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charitwo
    Quote Originally Posted by Charitwo
    Waste of 41,500,000 gil.

    either you're missing a 0, or i need to be on that server.
    <3 Dynamis Shell Currency Rates
    I'd do it if I got shell rates for BST Axe... Just to do it really.

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    Ridill
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    Has you shell generated the 18,000 currency necessary to upgrade?

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    Our shell has several upgraders, currency high in demand. Price isn't the issue, it's availability.

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    Ridill
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    Pretty stupid to call it 41.5m then.

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    Melee Summoner
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    Well is it true that it adds +20% magic power and accuracy for every element, so +5% more then HQ staves?

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    Summoners use clubs, that's why they get genbu shield before any other job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sekkite
    So it sucks that relic weapons let BLMs MB for higher damage then normal?
    What? Where'd that come from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellboy
    Summoners use clubs, that's why they get genbu shield before any other job.
    lol

  20. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrObvious
    Quote Originally Posted by Sekkite
    So it sucks that relic weapons let BLMs MB for higher damage then normal?
    What? Where'd that come from?
    I've heard rumors of people saying their MB damage increased bursting off the 2nd light or darkness chain created by relic weapons.

    I'd like to see screenshots or actual numbers though, since I haven't yet.

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