DRG gets attention!

[Mifaco]

I do feel strangely obligated to rush to Allakhazam's Dragoon board for some entertainment though.

here's a good one

Well on my server (Pandemonium) my of the most respected and famous Dragoons did his first 60levels as DRG/RDM and he is a tarutaru. He had a lot of fun with it, sure some people moaned at him because it wasn't the norm, but after Healing Breath saved a few lives they stopped complaining and his reputation grew. Most people will say you should sub a mage job for solo only, at the end of the day the decision is yours, try it and see if you like it. It might be worth leveling other subs as well so you can be flexible. The taru I talked about above, changed to DRG/SAM for the last fifteen levels and all his end-game activities. I don't hear anyone complaining about him.

Oh yeah! Laugh it up! But when dragoons get changed, you'll be in your awesome rampage/mana/etc burn party and there will be a party full of paladins, dragoons, and theives just soaking up like... 3500 exp an hour and it'll be GREAT.

Lol? I can be the top DD in a 7k+ exp/hour burn pt without much of a problem.

ahahah

no

[Mrcloudz]

O_O

[Daahan]

Still won't change much, even with the changes DRG still gonna be useless in endgame lol.

What I'd like to see is some kind of change in weapon and weapon skill damage, but i suppose this is a step in the right direction.

woo hoo @ the return of gogodavi

[Russta]

Still won't change much, even with the changes DRG still gonna be useless in endgame lol.

What I'd like to see is some kind of change in weapon and weapon skill damage, but i suppose this is a step in the right direction.

I just don't think Dragoon can ever be fixed because of the Wyvern. If you give them a good weapon skill and access to a Haubergeon their core damage will be on par with other jobs but the Wyvern will make them overpowered. If you take away the Wyvern to balance that out you make it just another melee job and kill what Dragoon is. Keeping what Dragoon is now and messing with the Wyvern won't change the only numbers most players see, namely the low damage and low WS ones, so their invites aren't going to go up changing nothing for them.

When I read this I didn't think "OMG I'M GONNA START INVITING DRAGOONS!" I just laughed. Who are they kidding when they say they don't think Dragoon is weak? Good job giving Wyverns subtle blow too, now if only your average player actually understood it Dragoon's may make a tiny bit of progress.

[Demetrios]

If you give them a good weapon skill and access to a Haubergeon their core damage will be on par with other jobs but the Wyvern will make them overpowered.

I'm sorry but stats in FFXI help in such small amounts, simply having access to a body piece like a Haubergon isn't going to change game balance at all. Giving DRGs a good WS along with a Wyvern will make them on par with other jobs, not overpowered (probably still underpowered comapred to what you can do at 75.) How are you going to compare a 500+ Delay lance plus a pet dog to Ridill WARs, Destroyer MNKs, Hagun SAMs, E-bow RNGs, Fudo/Senj NINs, or manaburning BLMs.

[Navia]

I think more people would play drg if they weren't a walking fashion disaster.
Sure you'll see the rare DRG in barone body/af2 that looks nice, but most are sporting assault jerkin for the rest of their lives, along with some bizaare mismatching of armor in other slots >.> I think the narrow variety in what drg wears kills some of the job appeal.

Some stuff like crimson/blood would be nice on a drg/magesub due to resists/hp/mp but seriously what ls is going to award that stuff to a drg main

Maybe i'm the only one that cares about not looking silly

[rahvin]

ohhh cool, now i can spread peanut butter on my balls 3 times in an hour instead of once every 2, for my buster to lick off :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

[Kazen]

New drg 2hr will be like Absolute virtue Instant cast meteor ftw... j/k..

[Sekkite]

Liltwin and Andarvi are gearing up in their DRG AF as we speak.
Oh and Kuai too. I know you have 60+ DRG. It's ok. You don't have to be ashamed anymore.

ROTFLMAO!

But honestly, it is about time. Now all they have to do is make Polearm weaponskill stop sucking at high levels. And throw in some mobs weak to peircing to merit on. (Thieves and Rangers will enjoy that too...)

What about the giant birds in the northeast side of Lufaise Meadows?

[Okan]

From what I understand, the two hour ability is still Call Wyvern, it's just being changed to a 20 minute recast.

[Aerandir]

New two-hour ability
The dragoon will be imbued with the strength of his or her wyvern for a fixed length of time, increasing the dragoon's power and adding special effects to "Jump" abilities.

[Eaglestrike]

ahahah

no

Um, yes? I've done it before you can't really say it's not possible lol. 22k exp in less than 3.5 hours with deaths and a member of the pt went to change subjobs within that time as well. I'm a lot stronger now than I was then.

I use a parser when I exp, I know who is doing the most dmg. I've gotten plenty of merits too, currently at 49, look at the sig.

[Milks]

lol gay

they noticed that i quit, so then they decide to improve drg a little

[skooboy]

*2inch hard on*

[XxSlusherxx]

"How are you going to compare a 500+ Delay lance plus a pet dog to Ridill WARs, Destroyer MNKs, Hagun SAMs, E-bow RNGs, Fudo/Senj NINs, or manaburning BLMs."

well I'm not saying you can compete with these, but your wyvern is a form of duel weild I think the fact the wyvern is getting subtle blow is simalar to that. I also think the new HQ lance, "Tritons Lance" is hands down the best DoT 2hand weapon in the game. I still feel it would be hard to compete but I'd like to see a parcer.

Speaking on balance, and dragoons being underpowered, I think what your forgetting is party vs. solo. If a dragoon could put up mnk/war/rng numbers and get healing breath while solo, that would be insane, the survivability of drgs solo as it stands now, is only behind the purest of solo jobs (NIN,BST,THF, RDM)

This reminds me of a thread of a rdm bemoaning his inablity to throw down good damage in a XP party, which to me was silly, if a rdm could throw down DD numbers in XP can you imagine what they would be able to solo??? anyway yeah, drg is underpowered vs. IT because of what it can do alone.

[Demetrios]

A RDM can throw down good numbers in EXP PT, stack a lot of MAB and INT gear and watch...

Unless Triton's Lance has ocassionally attacks 2-3 times, it's shit. Subtle blow is a joke, the addition of it to a Wyvern helps the job class in no way since mobs still randomly use TP anywhere from 100%-300%. How well a job is solo is meaningless for the two major end game activities: merit point PTs, and HNMs. NIN can solo better than any DRG could. I want to see a DRG go 1on1 with a VT mob and live...

[XxSlusherxx]

"A RDM can throw down good numbers in EXP PT, stack a lot of MAB and INT gear and watch... "

Using MP, not through mele, which... misses the point


"Unless Triton's Lance has ocassionally attacks 2-3 times, it's shit. Subtle blow is a joke, the addition of it to a Wyvern helps the job class in no way since mobs still randomly use TP anywhere from 100%-300%."

Hello?? did you miss the part about wyvern being a form of DW or me saying it's the best Dot 2hand?? so yes a dragoon is "occasionally attacking twice"(wyvern is belived to have your weapons Damage rating halved) and no it does not do Dot of certian swords.

And solo on ninja and tell me subtle blow bonuses don't make a diffrence. I don't know you mabye your a ninja and you don't feel that way, but I sure do.

[Epical]

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[Rocl]

The top sticky topic is the best :3

[Not Kuno]

Ahahahahahaha.