Proto-Ultima Fight Questions

[Septimus]

Anyway, sounds like a brutal fight. Why couldn't Omega be the one that drops the mage armor?

cause the one that requires more work drops the better stuff, a rare time that SE actually did something right regarding items.

Nashira gear isn't actually better than Homan. And they both suck compaired to Shinra gear.

[Stellar]

So when you begin the Ultima battle will he already be immune to either physical or magical damage? Or is it a move he will use somewhere during the fight? And he never takes damage from both at the same time? (always has one of the two barriers up)

[nsx]

The chests disappear after you engage Ultima.

[edgarfigaro]

Anyway, sounds like a brutal fight. Why couldn't Omega be the one that drops the mage armor?

cause the one that requires more work drops the better stuff, a rare time that SE actually did something right regarding items.

No, because SE wanted to make sure mages wouldn't get this stuff. No ls will make too many serious attempts at Ultima because most ls's are 75% melee/tanks and Omega is half the work to get to.

[layoneil]

No, because SE wanted to make sure mages wouldn't get this stuff. No ls will make too many serious attempts at Ultima because most ls's are 75% melee/tanks and Omega is half the work to get to.

you have to be a really stupid mage to let your LS do that to you. would love to see how many more Kirins, Omegas and Wyrms an LS can kill if the mages all of a sudden stop showing up to stuff.

Nashira gear isn't actually better than Homan. And they both suck compaired to Shinra gear.

only Haidate and Osode are really great, and the worse of the Proto stuff is definitely comparable to Suzaku Sune-Ate.

[FFXIFlux]

The chests disappear after you engage Ultima.

Doh! Thanks for the info. Thats a dirty trick.

[Khamsin]

Is anyone even sure the chests spawn mobs? So far, all we've seen is "I heard from a friend..." or "We think that..." and yet no one has opened them.

Someone open them before I do Ultima, so I can leech off your experience!

Seriously though, for all we know, they could be chests that drop AF1+1 items, coins, chips, extend time, etc. and not pop any mobs or have any sort of drawback or tradeoff at all.

[Stellar]

"only Haidate and Osode are really great"

I think Seiryu's Kote is pretty great

[Razz]

Genbu's Kabuto is pretty hot too

[Okan]

Nashira gear isn't actually better than Homan. And they both suck compaired to Shinra gear.

I saw the Nashira body.... It's hot.... if you're /NIN SJ...

[arlania]

Is anyone even sure the chests spawn mobs? So far, all we've seen is "I heard from a friend..." or "We think that..." and yet no one has opened them.

Someone open them before I do Ultima, so I can leech off your experience!

Seriously though, for all we know, they could be chests that drop AF1+1 items, coins, chips, extend time, etc. and not pop any mobs or have any sort of drawback or tradeoff at all.

I dont think anyone has opened them yet because knowing SE there may be a warp in one that throws you out of BC or the mobs may be hard and take down your overall time and not be worth it.

[Hiruke]

I'll open the chests before I fight it. Planned to all along. But you'll be waiting until January if you wait for me to do it first. ^^/

[Roranora]

We did this tonight; we were kinda scared with all the chests, didn't mess with them, though we regret it now, we won in about 32 minutes, much time to spare, but for our first run didn't want to jeopardize any time wtih the chests.

I really hope we're not like beating ourselves up later to find out that all these chests have goodies/coins/af/time/hpmp as like a farm reward pre-Proto-Ultima for reaching the end of the Temenos. After seeing the central tower Temenos yields, such lucrative love from the chest would be well-deserved, but we didn't risk it. We'll tap them for sure next time; main thing to any people who may be going soon: 60min is a TON of time.. I'm sure you can mess with a chest and not jeopardize the win.

Drops were head/hands onry. ._.

[Jotaru]

We opened one... an enhanced pygmaoi spawned, was rather weak but had a TON of HP (took the alliance of 18 that later beat Ultima around 5 minutes to kill it) - it dropped 2 coins. I'm guessing the other chests may also spawn more mobs to drop coins, as well as possibly HP/MP regen (as in the other instances) as well as perhaps straight treasure drop. However, knowing SE, nobody wanted to even consider risking the fight by opening a chest that might kick you out... Though in hindsight that wouldn't make very much sense, even for SE, to do.... I would estimate after opening the one that either they all spawn mobs that drop coins, or the chests vary as in the other areas and spawn mobs, HP/MP/Abilities (which would have been NICEx10000 for the fight) or loot.

[nivlakian]

We just did Proto-Ultima BC and opened the chests!
http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/6...maentry8ac.jpg

The chests appear to work in the following manner (theory from what we saw):
There are 3 sets of chests - A, B, C
Opening one in a set makes the others of that set disappear
7 chests in set A
6 chests in set B
3 chests in set C

Set A seems to have the XP mobs slime, pugil etc - we fought slime
Set B seems to be avatars - we fought leviathan (named Mystic Avatar)
Set C seems to be beastmen gods - we fought a Quadav
(In set B, it might only be one chest, but random avatar)


This would seem to explain what was discussed in the Missing Temenos Monsters thread. After opening 3 of the chests, we did not find anymore and moved on to Proto-Ultima. All of them only dropped coins for us, not sure what else is possible (like maybe chips from a temenos?)

http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/8...lydrops3nx.jpg
http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/7...oddrops2nd.jpg
(forgot to take SS of Mystic Avatar, he dropped 4)

We were able to kill the monsters with ~50mins remaining.

And our Ultima drops:
http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/8...madrops3rw.jpg

Edit(s):
Wrote orc instead of quadav
Added more notes about the chests

[Ankiseth]

Any idea if Proto-Ultima regens if you say wipe and RR? I'm curious because if so this could be done with a relatively small amount of people maybe (compared to the 18 limit) since there's a lot of time.

[FFXIFlux]

We just did Proto-Ultima BC and opened the chests!

And our Ultima drops:
http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/8...madrops3rw.jpg

Holy shit, grats. Perfect fucking drops. Those are the top 3 peices I'd want.

[nivlakian]

Any idea if Proto-Ultima regens if you say wipe and RR? I'm curious because if so this could be done with a relatively small amount of people maybe (compared to the 18 limit) since there's a lot of time.

I'm not sure if he regens when you wipe since we didn't wipe.

[Dezzimal]

he regens when you wipe

orz 1% baibai

sorry for necro

[Lombardia]

he regens when you wipe

orz 1% baibai

sorry for necro

he also stays in the same form you whipe at like DL. i agro'd him after our whipe @ 7% and he started his countdown. so if you whipe its over.