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    The only reason Excalibur exists is to make PLD a shit hot DD in merit parties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier
    I'm tired of explaining pld/nin but no, there is no TA to hold hate. PLD/NIN holds massive amount of hate w/o any additional help. Cure IV is voke, flash is voke, flash can be cut down to like 25-30 seconds, so I don't really see why people are so perplexed by pld/nin.

    Its like nin/war, except it has 2 ways to provoke and easier access to enmity gear and actually cures itself instead of relying on others. Greatly reduces the amount of healers needed in a fight, etc.

    Theres no trick to the test, if the add effect gave the hate from the dmg to the pld, Bikkwin would've had more hate.
    I also fail to see why people dont understand, that a pld can cure SOMEONE ELSE and get the hate for it. Alot of them learn this after feeling useless in Dynamis-Qufim ;p pld's held hate with no /war SJ, provoke is just another tool, in the many things a PLD can do to gain hate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lordwafik
    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier
    I'm tired of explaining pld/nin but no, there is no TA to hold hate. PLD/NIN holds massive amount of hate w/o any additional help. Cure IV is voke, flash is voke, flash can be cut down to like 25-30 seconds, so I don't really see why people are so perplexed by pld/nin.

    Its like nin/war, except it has 2 ways to provoke and easier access to enmity gear and actually cures itself instead of relying on others. Greatly reduces the amount of healers needed in a fight, etc.

    Theres no trick to the test, if the add effect gave the hate from the dmg to the pld, Bikkwin would've had more hate.
    I also fail to see why people dont understand, that a pld can cure SOMEONE ELSE and get the hate for it. Alot of them learn this after feeling useless in Dynamis-Qufim ;p pld's held hate with no /war SJ, provoke is just another tool, in the many things a PLD can do to gain hate.
    Now that I have melee gear I can hold hate on alot of things PLD/NIN just as well as /WAR. I tanked ZM5-ZM12 for a friend as PLD/NIN due to the lack of WHM. The only time I lost hate was on a non resisted MB at the beging of ZM6 and after Archduke's Hate Rest Move. Its all about how skilled a PLD is at thier job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier
    I'm tired of explaining pld/nin but no, there is no TA to hold hate. PLD/NIN holds massive amount of hate w/o any additional help. Cure IV is voke, flash is voke, flash can be cut down to like 25-30 seconds, so I don't really see why people are so perplexed by pld/nin.

    Its like nin/war, except it has 2 ways to provoke and easier access to enmity gear and actually cures itself instead of relying on others. Greatly reduces the amount of healers needed in a fight, etc.

    Theres no trick to the test, if the add effect gave the hate from the dmg to the pld, Bikkwin would've had more hate.
    But according to the BG vid I see people TAing the PLD, are they not?

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    But according to the BG vid I see people TAing the PLD, are they not?
    Tiamat is a completely different fight then Fafnir. Even if TAs ARE used for a PLD/NIN...does not mean it is necessary in order to hold hate as a PLD/NIN, no more so then it would a PLD/WAR or NIN/WAR being TAed. Just helps in the end.

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    PLD/NIN owns on long fights where they can accrue that much more hate.

    I can't stand when PLD's bring /NIN to shit like limbus when they have exactly one hate tool to tank adds every 45 seconds, but yeah it's cool "because i'm tired of being a meat shield"

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    ls chat makes me laff lololz

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isildur

    ls chat makes me laff lololz
    that goblin npc may be smarter then more then 65% of the people on ffxi just look at his grammar and that last line about how tough the cost will be to get just shows how vast his wisdom is (*'-')b

    He sure as hell is smarter then me =3

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelkitty
    that goblin npc may be smarter then more then 65% of the people on ffxi just look at his grammar and that last line about how tough the cost will be to get just shows how vast his wisdom is (*'-')b

    He sure as hell is smarter then me =3
    Tell us something we don't know

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    Quote Originally Posted by Litoriceboi
    Quote Originally Posted by angelkitty
    that goblin npc may be smarter then more then 65% of the people on ffxi just look at his grammar and that last line about how tough the cost will be to get just shows how vast his wisdom is (*'-')b

    He sure as hell is smarter then me =3
    Tell us something we don't know
    :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelkitty
    Quote Originally Posted by Litoriceboi
    Quote Originally Posted by angelkitty
    that goblin npc may be smarter then more then 65% of the people on ffxi just look at his grammar and that last line about how tough the cost will be to get just shows how vast his wisdom is (*'-')b

    He sure as hell is smarter then me =3
    Tell us something we don't know
    :D

    TTEEEEHHHEEEEEEEEEEEEEHEHEHEHEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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    rofl

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pawky
    type 6 being 80-90% dmg reduction and activating half the time thats a ridiculous 40-45% overall physical dmg reduction down. you could achieve that dual wielding earth staves but then you still wouldnt have the stats of the shield and being able to access shield bash and sword weaponskills...
    hard to see how that sucks

    What are you talking about? you cant dual wield staff :X

    rate down.
    are you retarded? its sarcasm comparing how much better the shield is than an earth staff

    edit: god i lose for being drunk for 2 days and only posting now

    you lose

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    Seeker from Feather Shield Bashed KB the other day for like 230. Then their Dark Deathknight Guillotined him for 1600+ with Apocalypse.

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    are you retarded? its sarcasm comparing how much better the shield is than an earth staff
    lol... my reply wasnt serious, you made an alla type comment so I gave an alla type response, you know, thats the reason I said "rate down"?

    you lose for taking two days to reply and for not seeing that my post was obviously also a joke

    Edit: btw, your sarcasm sucks because to be honest I did think you were serious at first, but then realized not even people on Alla could be that retarded

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    This whole thread loses.

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    alla type comments dont really reach the level of hypothetical situations... usually more along the terms of

    "oh i wish we could dual wield earth staffs!!1 would be so cool (u cant dual wield them rightz? i dunno cuz i put all my money in my crafts [NOW 51.1 clothcraft!!!] so i cant afford earth staff for my 46 whm to test it lolz) and then relic shield izs still better i think omg! "

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