Relic Knuckles Completed On Siren

[Mifaco]

What's up with all the monks getting the final AF? theres like 5 guys across server with complete relic knuckles and only 1 for each of the other weapons

mnk is the new rng, didn't you hear?

[Razz]

Too bad the 500mil WS does the same damage as detonator

[gfive]

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Relic Knuckles pwn, going to upgrade right now.

Another prime example of shitty end game.

[NynJa]

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Relic Knuckles pwn, going to upgrade right now.

Another prime example of shitty end game.

that means nothing...


1-old utsusemi shadows up ?
2-only first hit landed for a killing bow ?

[Ajani]

Thank you for clearing that up, the pics were taken when Seph was still BLM #2 in the party (I took over for him afterwards)

Also, thought this may be difficult to test in a normal XP party situation, we're working on a theory that Final Heaven does increase the subtle blow trait when used.

It does. Just like Haste from the Scythe. Big Congrats btw.

[gfive]

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Relic Knuckles pwn, going to upgrade right now.

Another prime example of shitty end game.

that means nothing...


1-old utsusemi shadows up ?
2-only first hit landed for a killing bow ?[/quote]

IMO that means everything, if I spent 300mil and a year on a item I would want it to be throwing out 2k weapon skills, if not its shit. Prime example of shitty end game.

[Lockecole]

Lol notice how the PLD hits for almost twice as much in two swings as he just did in one WS....

There's overpowered...theres useful..and then there's 75 damage.

[Varnx]

I don't really think the point of the weapons are to make an ungodly weapon skill, although that seems to be what everyone focuses on. These weapons are supposed to be the best you can possibly get.

Of course, unless it was an item that could summon Absolute Virtue and one shot him, and unnerf every melee job ever at the same time, 500 million and that much time for any one thing is just nuts.

[NynJa]

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Relic Knuckles pwn, going to upgrade right now.

Another prime example of shitty end game.

that means nothing...


1-old utsusemi shadows up ?
2-only first hit landed for a killing bow ?

IMO that means everything, if I spent 300mil and a year on a item I would want it to be throwing out 2k weapon skills, if not its shit. Prime example of shitty end game.

Um...
1-utsusemi shadows absorb everything. Final Heaven to my knowledge is a 3hit ws. so they had 2 shadows up previously, which explains low dmg. Not to mention that in ballista, dmg calculations are slightly altered.
2-once again, only the first hit landed because it killed him. Why did it low damage ?? perhaps they blocked it with a shield thus lowering damage.

(yes, I know both situations can not coincide).

but of course, most tards just judge a book by its cover.

[Americayankee]

I thought relic weaponskills ignored utsusemi...

[Gafgarionn]

3 blocks with an Aegis?

[gfive]

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Relic Knuckles pwn, going to upgrade right now.

Another prime example of shitty end game.

that means nothing...


1-old utsusemi shadows up ?
2-only first hit landed for a killing bow ?

IMO that means everything, if I spent 300mil and a year on a item I would want it to be throwing out 2k weapon skills, if not its shit. Prime example of shitty end game.

Um...
1-utsusemi shadows absorb everything. Final Heaven to my knowledge is a 3hit ws. so they had 2 shadows up previously, which explains low dmg. Not to mention that in ballista, dmg calculations are slightly altered.
2-once again, only the first hit landed because it killed him. Why did it low damage ?? perhaps they blocked it with a shield thus lowering damage.

(yes, I know both situations can not coincide).

but of course, most tards just judge a book by its cover.

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PLD/WAR

hey man, if you want to upgrade relic knuckles go ahead don't let me stop ya, just saying they suck ass.

[NynJa]

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Relic Knuckles pwn, going to upgrade right now.

Another prime example of shitty end game.

that means nothing...


1-old utsusemi shadows up ?
2-only first hit landed for a killing bow ?

IMO that means everything, if I spent 300mil and a year on a item I would want it to be throwing out 2k weapon skills, if not its shit. Prime example of shitty end game.

Um...
1-utsusemi shadows absorb everything. Final Heaven to my knowledge is a 3hit ws. so they had 2 shadows up previously, which explains low dmg. Not to mention that in ballista, dmg calculations are slightly altered.
2-once again, only the first hit landed because it killed him. Why did it low damage ?? perhaps they blocked it with a shield thus lowering damage.

(yes, I know both situations can not coincide).

but of course, most tards just judge a book by its cover.[/quote]

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PLD/WAR

hey man, if you want to upgrade relic knuckles go ahead don't let me stop ya, just saying they suck ass.[/quote]
are relic weapons immune to shield now ??

[SephYuyX]

Come visit me in Cinci, Kimiko.

[Kimiko]

Better yet, come up to Columbus for Ohayocon next month. =)

[Drzaus]

Sorry Lockecole i wasnt paying close attention. i was looking at the dmg not the person taking the pics, just cuz i overlooked one thing, doesnt change the fact i asked som good questions that matter, so maybe instead of pointing out the fact that i didnt notice somthing u could of just said it nicely, instead of seemingly being an ass to a new poster

Edit.. yah.. btw, using coeurl sub with bard in pt and hitting for 80-120 u said? they dont seem that great to me.. lol, but the 3x is great. i'd never upgrade somthing that i'd mainly use for XP tho

[Jotaru]

You would if MNK was your main job that you loved, lol. What else is a MNK gonna use thats "not only in XP"? In most HNM situations they're used for Chi-whores, in which case no upgraded relic is gonna help them... And on the HNM's they actually attack, the best weapon for NMage is the best weapon for XP... And I assume that'd be the Spharai.

Also, I don't understand why hitting for 120 a hit isn't that 'impressive'? That's 200+ dmg a round, not counting ANY double attack (Which can proc on both fists) as well as Kick Attacks... You're calling a potential 600 dmg round (not even considering the 3x proc) 'unimpressive'? Maybe I'm missing something about monk o_O

[XxSlusherxx]

Also, I don't understand why hitting for 120 a hit isn't that 'impressive'? That's 200+ dmg a round, not counting ANY double attack (Which can proc on both fists) as well as Kick Attacks... You're calling a potential 600 dmg round (not even considering the 3x proc) 'unimpressive'? Maybe I'm missing something about monk o_O

I don't belive Weapons effect kick attacks, only certain boots do if I am not mistaken. And considering her other gear and having a bard, those hits really don't blow me away. they are very good, but not to much above what I've seen. I think a revealing question would be if the war is eating sushi (which he probly is using sword) then look at the diffrence in hits, he's also as I mentioned earlier using a somewhat weak axe compared to what most endgame wars have.

[Lockecole]

Sorry Lockecole i wasnt paying close attention. i was looking at the dmg not the person taking the pics, just cuz i overlooked one thing, doesnt change the fact i asked som good questions that matter, so maybe instead of pointing out the fact that i didnt notice somthing u could of just said it nicely, instead of seemingly being an ass to a new poster

Sorry I was trying to add some humor to it...and it kinda came out bad. ^^; Glad everythings cleared up, I just assumed you hadnt even read the thread like alot of people tend to assume. Laterz.

[Drzaus]

eh i can understand it, im having a bad time anyway lol.. im getting owned on the crafting forum for som reason..
Edit*this is with sushi*
But yah, i am a mnk 75, with indra's which arent even as good as destroyers, i can hit for around 60-80 and higher esp when i put zerk on, without a bard.
with Faith bangs i can hit around 50 and spam like hell, without a bard as well

what im saying is, for using meat, with a bard, that isnt what i'd think the dmg would come out as, unless im missing somthing it doesnt seem worth it... which is basically what most ppl agree on

and yah, Mnk is for meriting, my ls doesnt use my mnk as often as i'd like, and guess what - u cap out merits pretty fast as a mnk, no matter how many jobs u have.. so in the end.. u got a weapon that becomes useless besides xp.. which ur full on