Thanks a lot SE!

[Navia]

I'd invite a bst/nin to a war party if they have a Ridill

Fixed.

[Meilyn]

Wow thats totally harsh... Did they change it so that charmed pets don't give an xp penalty anymore as well as jug pets? Still a huge change, but maybe with the new regen food + no xp penalty it might not COMPLETELY blow.....

(then again who am i kidding... gj se)

Brains (Can I have it?) (Please)?

[Demetrick]

it wouldn't be so bad since the mob will respawn in about a minute in its old locations, however the pet is different, despite that they said it wouldn't be. there were 2 Dire Bats con-DecentChallenge in upper Dlk. tower, when i moved them, they both reappeared as con-Tough. There are only 2 Dire bats in this Loc so I know it was them reappearing.

One NICE thing, and i use the term so loosely, is that when a dire bat had <10% HP and Bio3 on it from the Magic Jug, moving it, releasing it, 1 min later reappears full health.

This is a stupid system that I feel is full of glitches. GG SE, again.

[royze]

this is the first time i bitch about SE as i can recall

but


FUCK THIS SHIT..

guys, lets gather and make a complaint...send it to SE..i have good hopes and im an optimist..it will work...dont tell me things in the past didnt work

this would work if they understood that they fucked the job system

[Dezzimal]

They said they enhanced pet food to heal more HP per level of BST. I think they're trying to compensate for this blunder with that. It also adds regen.

[derzoll]

How will this affect BST alliances vs Tiamat? Might be a stupid question, but i don't know how far you guys go to charm new pets.

[Xavier]

How will this affect BST alliances vs Tiamat? Might be a stupid question, but i don't know how far you guys go to charm new pets.

I'm no expert but I think it'll result in all of the bsts being 1 shotted by Tiamat after a pet is released.

[derzoll]

sweet

[raginbull]

So because of this, BST is now completely broken?

[cubone]

sweet

F U !!

[Kalaka]

I now alot of BST and yes it sucks you can't do what you used to. And yes you are more dependant on jug pets now. And yes you are more dependant on pet food. And yes you can't as easily mpk people with released pets. oops did i say that out loud? It sucks and yes I am sure 90% of bst didn't level it to become mpk masters. The problem is how do you solve the issue with those 10% (have no hard numbers but i am sure if i said a higher number i would be flamed) who specifically use bst to mpk people, or bst mpking people because a pt shows up to an area to xp? They tried to make bst still playable give some benefits to try to make up for having to do something about the assholes who mpk using released pets. If you trully want to blame someone blame the asshats who regularly mpk'ed using release with agro pets on people.

[Gorfunion]

It's easy. Play a game like EQ2 or WoW and watch how mobs that get trained simply run back to their spawn locations and do not aggro along the way. That's how to actually "fix" something w/o breaking something else.

[Xavier]

Yeah, its not hard to have the mob just slowly walk back in a nonaggro mode but still charmable to its camp instead of just vanishing back to it.

[cubone]

i blame rap music ™

[Warudo Ecksu]

I now alot of BST and yes it sucks you can't do what you used to. And yes you are more dependant on jug pets now. And yes you are more dependant on pet food. And yes you can't as easily mpk people with released pets. oops did i say that out loud? It sucks and yes I am sure 90% of bst didn't level it to become mpk masters. The problem is how do you solve the issue with those 10% (have no hard numbers but i am sure if i said a higher number i would be flamed) who specifically use bst to mpk people, or bst mpking people because a pt shows up to an area to xp? They tried to make bst still playable give some benefits to try to make up for having to do something about the assholes who mpk using released pets. If you trully want to blame someone blame the asshats who regularly mpk'ed using release with agro pets on people.

You don't get it. BSTs can't really solo in certain places anymore. Jug pets are worthless. WORTHLESS. Pet food isn't going to do shit for exping. The only time I used pet food exping was in the tree in BST PTs fighting goobs, but now you can't even do that.

The majority of BSTs do not MPK people purposely. It is unfortunate when there is an asshat BST that does MPK, but they usually don't take the job all the way to 75. Most lv.75 BSTs have more respect than that.

Basically what this change in mob behavior does is it makes it impossible for a BST to chain. As if EXPing wasn't slow enough as it was before. BST was never meant to join normal EXP PTs. Jug pets aren't going to change anything with that.

Unless you have actually leveled BST to lv.70+, you can't fully understand what these changes do for BST. I'm very thankful that I got this job to 75 before this "nerf." BST is my favorite job, and it kept me from quitting this game. Farming and everything else is going to be more difficult now. I see Tiamat being impossible for BSTs now.

I think SE realized that they were screwing BSTs over in a big way when they made this change, but they just didn't care. Hopefully, BSTs will find some way to adapt.

[Lordwafik]

I say us BST do a serverwide protest

Charm 1 bark spider > Set it to attack another > Heel it all the way back untill they're all attacking, After it dies, charm another spider > send it back in , untill all the spiders of the pack die. Rinse, repeat all day long.

What!? you say? Parties can no longer exp if we do this you say? WOW NEITHER CAN WE!!!!


The real way SE could of done it is, when a pet gets trained/zoned whatever, have it walk back normally with a DIFFERENT colour on it's head, Hot Green/Bright purple, i dont care, just so you notice it's not gonna aggro you. When it's back in his zone, go back yellow. This is what we get when SE asks a bunch of 13 year old Morons at allakhazam forums who only say "YEA DEM BST ALWASY DO DAT MPK LOL MAIK DER PETS GO AWAY LOLZ".

Anyone who's levelled beastmaster to 75 will understand what we're trying to explain. Now, not only cant we solo, but we cant exp in a xp pt. Why? Lol do you think jugpets have good accuracy or hit hard? You're sadly mistaken. Having a jugpet at 75 is like having a lvl66 come to your weapons party. Whiff whiff hit whiff whiff whiff hit whiffles whiff whiff. Before BST were ok charming a death cap or a Mandragorah to come and exp with you in the tree on darters/steelshells whatever you were fighting, but now if we try do that, our pet will go poof. Release > Poof, pet needs HP? Poof. Regen onto pets is stupid, because the pet is gonna dissapear, not only that, we cant heal our pet whenever we want, I dont remember the last time I used Reward, but it's something like 1 time per 3 mins, yeah ,nice SE. What SE did to BST, is took the guns away from the army, and replaced them with Pellet guns.

Yay.

[Warudo Ecksu]

I bet a lot of angry BSTs will go play WoW lol.

[cubone]

I now alot of BST and yes it sucks you can't do what you used to. And yes you are more dependant on jug pets now. And yes you are more dependant on pet food. And yes you can't as easily mpk people with released pets. oops did i say that out loud? It sucks and yes I am sure 90% of bst didn't level it to become mpk masters. The problem is how do you solve the issue with those 10% (have no hard numbers but i am sure if i said a higher number i would be flamed) who specifically use bst to mpk people, or bst mpking people because a pt shows up to an area to xp? They tried to make bst still playable give some benefits to try to make up for having to do something about the assholes who mpk using released pets. If you trully want to blame someone blame the asshats who regularly mpk'ed using release with agro pets on people.

You don't get it. BSTs can't really solo in certain places anymore. Jug pets are worthless. WORTHLESS. Pet food isn't going to do shit for exping. The only time I used pet food exping was in the tree in BST PTs fighting goobs, but now you can't even do that.

The majority of BSTs do not MPK people purposely. It is unfortunate when there is an asshat BST that does MPK, but they usually don't take the job all the way to 75. Most lv.75 BSTs have more respect than that.

Basically what this change in mob behavior does is it makes it impossible for a BST to chain. As if EXPing wasn't slow enough as it was before. BST was never meant to join normal EXP PTs. Jug pets aren't going to change anything with that.

Unless you have actually leveled BST to lv.70+, you can't fully understand what these changes do for BST. I'm very thankful that I got this job to 75 before this "nerf." BST is my favorite job, and it kept me from quitting this game. Farming and everything else is going to be more difficult now. I see Tiamat being impossible for BSTs now.

I think SE realized that they were screwing BSTs over in a big way when they made this change, but they just didn't care. Hopefully, BSTs will find some way to adapt.

amen :wink:

i tryed to reply pretty much the same thing you put but my IE crashed when i hit submit D: except am 69 but i dunno if am gonna get to 75 when i return if its not adjusted or something, oucherz

and yeah ill probably reactivate my Hunter on WoW instead of FFXI ~_~
as backup :D

lol wafik so is that a reverse-mpk?, a NO SOUP for YOU PK

[Xavier]

I wonder if mpk will now just be really annoying people running up to your camp and never shutting up.

[Totien]

The really stupid thing is at the I-Games thing in College Station (you know, the one I won the computer at and still haven't received it two months later.. maintenance delays irl ftw) they were asked why they didn't make mobs nonagressive until they got back to their original spawn radius, they said "That's the way they do it in WoW, and we're trying to steer away from copying other games methods" and all I could think to myself was 'Wow that's the most retarded reason ever not to make a change. WHY REINVENT THE WHEEL?'