Bahamut info thread #2

[Jimmayus]

hiya new to the board '-')b

Have we just copmletely eliminated the possiblity that it could be a choice of which wyrm you fight with the Monarch Orb? I mean, fighting all of them at once, even with weaker versions of the wyrms, would be a rediculously long fight. Plus, it would most likely require a completely new system of more than 18 people in an instance at once.

I'm thinkin' there's a large possibility that it'll be a choice of a wyrm to fight, mainly because it would be much easier to implement a choice like that then an extremely complex and huge battle. Not that a huge battle wouldn't be cool, it's just that, given the way the game is structured, a smaller fight seems much more likely. That also means we'd get instanced Nidhoggs O_o, which I personally think would be much more beneficial than the equipment dropping from just Bahamut (assuming Bahamut's treasure pool doesn't cover all the wyrms or something).

Anyway, just a thought.

[Demetrios]

Based on .dat files, yeah it's eliminated. If there were a menu text based choice for a given wyrm we'd see it in the file for RivB01. It could be a choice based on provoking what you want to fight similar to the Fei'Yin pot BCNM, but I really doubt it. My guess is that at various points in Bahamut's HP a random wyrm is "summoned" like Kirin or Bahamut says that text "Sisters and brothers hear my call and join this shedding of divine blood blah blahbalh" and a wyrm descends from above.

[Jimmayus]

ah ok, it just seemed a little extreme to throw them at us like that. Just means we're gonna have a several hour long fight (if Bahamut isn't weak of course). Sweets.

[Isildur]

gotta wait to see what happens with the Monarch Orb, if it doesnt work then its a good possibility you need to kill all 4 wyrms and get a drop like someone said above.

personally i doubt it'd be a BC that requires more than 18 people, due to the fact that if its more than 18 people, others outside your group could just spam click on it to just fuck up your run, SE would have to create some sort of tradeable item after you activate the BC, kinda like dynamis.

i suspect a multi-part BC with all king wyrms then Bahamut, but that alone would take over 3 hours to do

[FFXIFlux]

all king wyrms then Bahamut, but that alone would take over 3 hours to do

These are the people that made "The Hills Are Alive." So don't bother going in with anything less than 18 BLM. You'll need to kill 5 wyrms and you'll have 30 min to do it.

[divisortheory]

Oh yea, and the Cloud Evoker is common.

So, to sum it all up, kthxbai.

Common... to sum it all up, you have no fucking clue what you're talking about. kthxbai.

lol. have you ever done an ENM? I'm not sure if being 7/10 on Cloud Evokers is considered rare to you, but if so I stand corrected.

[layoneil]

Oh yea, and the Cloud Evoker is common.

So, to sum it all up, kthxbai.

Common... to sum it all up, you have no fucking clue what you're talking about. kthxbai.

lol. have you ever done an ENM? I'm not sure if being 7/10 on Cloud Evokers is considered rare to you, but if so I stand corrected.

Cloud Evoker is like a 20% drop at best for us.

[Slott]

god 7/10?

we got like 4/35 heh

[FFXIFlux]

Oh yea, and the Cloud Evoker is common.

So, to sum it all up, kthxbai.

Common... to sum it all up, you have no fucking clue what you're talking about. kthxbai.

lol. have you ever done an ENM? I'm not sure if being 7/10 on Cloud Evokers is considered rare to you, but if so I stand corrected.

I have an ENM static and we've done 3 ENMs most weeks since it's come out, and also done Uninvited Guests a number of times. Thats >> 100 ENMs. We've gotten about 3 evokers.

Which ENM are you 7/10 on? LMAO

[divisortheory]

Totentanz Long time ago did like 10 of them trying to get a Blau Dolch. Never got one, but got a shitload of Cloud Evokers.

[FFXIFlux]

Totentanz Long time ago did like 10 of them trying to get a Blau Dolch. Never got one, but got a shitload of Cloud Evokers.

Drop rates on ENMs have been tweaked at least twice since they came out. Layoneil's 20% is probably what it is now. So for 18 people 1/5 chance per week if you win. And Totentoz is on the same timer as the other Boneyard Gully ENMs so you screw yourself out of Forager's Mantels or whatever.

[Darm]

Oh yea, and the Cloud Evoker is common.

So, to sum it all up, kthxbai.

Common... to sum it all up, you have no fucking clue what you're talking about. kthxbai.

lol. have you ever done an ENM? I'm not sure if being 7/10 on Cloud Evokers is considered rare to you, but if so I stand corrected.

I have an ENM static and we've done 3 ENMs most weeks since it's come out, and also done Uninvited Guests a number of times. Thats >> 100 ENMs. We've gotten about 3 evokers.

Which ENM are you 7/10 on? LMAO

I already mentioned this earlier, Totenaz.

[layoneil]

we use to do Totentaz with 2 groups every week (sometimes 3 groups), and it did not drop every other week.

[Xerlic]

we use to do Totentaz with 2 groups every week (sometimes 3 groups), and it did not drop every other week.

I've been doing this every Sunday in a static that started 2 months ago. We've only gotten 1 Evoker out of 7-8 runs ourselves.

[FFXIFlux]

Pre-Req:
Buy CoP
Finish CoP Missions
Do some other prerequisite no one is sure of but most have done
Get CS
Beat Bahamut easy fight

For fight
Do Totentoz ~5 times for Cloud Evoker (5 day timer)
Beat Ouyu for Monarch Orb (unknown drop rate, sure to be nerfed if good)
Fight Bahamut (speculation)

And for my next trick... the hoops shall be set ON FIRE!

At least sea pop items aren't on a 5 day timer...

*edited spelling of dragon's name for not kuno*

[Not Kuno]

It's Bahamut. It's in the freaking title of the thread.

[Demetrios]

Why don't you fucking quit the game already?

Monarch Orb so far has been a 100% drop rate. My LS buys Cloud Evokers from random NAs ans JPs who can't do shit with them so there isn't a scarcity problem. I bet a lot of other LSes will start doing this too. The only unknown is how hard the 2nd BC is, and I'm hoping it kicks eveyrone's asses for the first few tries.

[NynJa]

all king wyrms then Bahamut, but that alone would take over 3 hours to do

These are the people that made "The Hills Are Alive." So don't bother going in with anything less than 18 BLM. You'll need to kill 5 wyrms and you'll have 30 min to do it.

Flux, remember that the CoP wyrms take 50% magic dmg.

SMNx18

[Sirlancelot]

And for the record, what if the last fight is hard and fun...to me fun > items anyday, and yes I still have fun in FFXI.

no one plays ffxi for fun...



and um, anyone can hack auto-translates. theres zero Shieka manteel's on my server, but I can auto-trans that item.

One of the BRDs in Flowers has one.
Check your info before posting.

[NynJa]

And for the record, what if the last fight is hard and fun...to me fun > items anyday, and yes I still have fun in FFXI.

no one plays ffxi for fun...



and um, anyone can hack auto-translates. theres zero Shieka manteel's on my server, but I can auto-trans that item.

One of the BRDs in Flowers has one.
Check your info before posting.

lol, they got one ?? Sorry, I dont jock JP's day in and day out like you


Regardless, Rikesh was auto-translating Shiekh Manteel at about the same time the subligar desynth was discovered.