Bahamut info thread #2

[Fayth-]

No, many players, when casted on while getting the Bahamut BC CS (RiverneB01), had their game froze. You could talk and stuff, but not exit out. When you crashed the game and logged back in, it acted as if you already got the CS.

[MisterBob]

We just won the BC after the maint, nothing changed...we talked to Eshta 'Narl, nothing new

[Sykes]

I looked through the dialog tables for all the cities in the game, Lumoria, the Rivernes, and all the BCs, and the following is all that I found that is remotely interesting:


The following is the dialog from Riverne Site #B01 that I do not remember seeing during or after the Bahamut fight ... I have split it up where I think it is actually split up ...

Before the battle (some may also be his ramblings during the battle ... I suspect he may call the other wyrms in the middle of battle):
00000684 Children of Vana'diel, what do you think to accomplish by fighting for your lives?≺NewLine≻You know your efforts are futile, yet still you resist...≺Marker: 7F3100≻≺NewLine≻
00000685 Your lives are a blasphemy against the mothercrystal!≺Marker: 7F3100≻≺NewLine≻
00000686 Contemplate on the good your death will bring as your mortal form is consumed by my brilliance!≺Marker: 7F3100≻≺NewLine≻
00000687 Humanity unites, yet it comes to nothing.≺NewLine≻Consider the mountains and rivers consumed by the Emptiness...≺Marker: 7F3100≻≺NewLine≻
00000688 No matter how great your desire for humanity's survival, mortals lack the ability to alter their beginnings.≺Marker: 7F3100≻≺NewLine≻
00000689 All you can do is choose your ending.≺NewLine≻The light of the Wyrmking shall reveal the justice of your decision!≺Marker: 7F3100≻≺NewLine≻
00000690 Winged brothers and sisters, hear my call!≺Marker: 7F3100≻≺NewLine≻
00000691 All those who traverse the endless sea of clouds! All those who bear the shadowless sun as they cross the skies!≺Marker: 7F3100≻≺NewLine≻
00000692 Come join me in the shedding of divine blood!≺Marker: 7F3100≻≺NewLine≻

After you win:
00000693 To think that you could repel the greatest of my power... Your strength is laudable, Children of Vana'diel.≺Marker: 7F3100≻≺NewLine≻
00000694 You may even be able to overcome the inheritor of the will of the Emptiness...≺Marker: 7F3100≻≺NewLine≻
00000695 The Children of Vana'diel fly without wings. With a mere fragment of that power, one could rise to the sun.≺Marker: 7F3100≻≺NewLine≻


There are two BC battles in Riverne #B01, the first Bahamut one (Storms of Fate), and the Wyrmking Descends:

00000605 Which battlefield will you enter?≺NewLine≻≺Selection Dialog≻None.≺NewLine≻Storms of Fate.≺NewLine≻The Wyrmking Descends.≺NewLine≻.≺NewLine≻.≺NewLine≻.≺NewLine≻.≺ NewLine≻.≺NewLine≻.≺NewLine≻.≺NewLine≻.≺NewLine≻.≺ NewLine≻.≺NewLine≻.≺NewLine≻.≺NewLine≻.≺NewLine≻.≺ NewLine≻.≺NewLine≻.≺NewLine≻.≺NewLine≻.≺NewLine≻.≺ NewLine≻.≺NewLine≻.≺NewLine≻.≺NewLine≻.≺NewLine≻.≺ NewLine≻.≺NewLine≻.≺NewLine≻.≺NewLine≻.≺NewLine≻≺M arker: 7F3100≻≺NewLine≻


... but what is notable is that the Goblin Footprint only offers to recall cutscenes from Storms of Fate:

00000631 What story would you like to be told?≺NewLine≻≺Selection Dialog≻On second thought, maybe later.≺NewLine≻Storms of Fate(pt.1).≺NewLine≻Storms of Fate(pt.2).≺NewLine≻Storms of Fate(pt.3).≺Marker: 7F3100≻≺NewLine≻


Finally, the last notable thing in the dialog tables is that in Ru'Lude Gardens, there is dialog which is clearly Bahamut speaking ...

00003333 Mankind will be annihilated. You have simply delayed the process.≺Marker: 7F3100≻≺NewLine≻
00003334 Do you dare to defy fate once again and fight to preserve your lives?≺Marker: 7F3100≻≺NewLine≻
00003335 Defy fate and fight?≺NewLine≻≺Selection Dialog≻Fight and live!≺NewLine≻Fate is inevitable.≺Marker: 7F3100≻≺NewLine≻
00003336 Children of Vana'diel! ≺Multiple Choice (Parameter 0)≻[Stand in defiance/Accept your fate] and perish! Redeem the world as a part of the mothercrystals!
00003337 You have delayed mankind's extinction yet again...≺Marker: 7F3100≻≺NewLine≻
00003338 An age is a mere flicker to a wyrm. However, enough flickers united form a star.≺Marker: 7F3100≻≺NewLine≻
00003339 Children of Vana'diel.≺NewLine≻Unite and form a future in which mankind can survive.

Sounds like the enitre thing is repeatable over and over and over and Bahamut is giving you the opportunity to accept the quest again.

One thing that is notable is the lack of any new dialog text where someone is offering to let you choose an item (like if you were turning in the whisper for an item) that isn't accounted for. That tells me that the whisper is just a key item required for entry in to the second BC ... whether that must be accompanied by an orb or if you can just enter after the tally I don't know. But it does seem like the Bahamut items are probably dropped opposed to traded in (imo ... and this is still just speculation).

[Demetrios]

I'm going to go back and watch both cutscenes in Ru'Lude Graden and RivB01 to make sure there isn't a cutscene we haven't seen yet.

[MisterBob]

I talked to a GM about this, typical garbage response (was expecting nothing less).

He said "If you check all the fansites on POL.com, one of them has the info you need". Of course, this is not true.

He also asked how many times we killed Bahamut. I of course told him one, since you aren't allowed to enter the BC again, at least as of yet = =

[Demetrios]

From the RivB01 text file:

Children of Vana'diel, what do you think to accomplish by fighting for your lives?≺NewLine≻You know your efforts are futile, yet still you resist...≺Marker: 7F3100≻≺NewLine≻

I believe Bahamut first says this to you when you engage him in the first BCNM, I am certain this is not said by Bahamut in parts 1-3 Storms of Fate. It could be from the second BCNM but based on its chronological placement it should be from the first BCNM.

Your lives are a blasphemy against the mothercrystal!≺Marker: 7F3100≻≺NewLine≻

This is the text for Megaflare activating.

Contemplate on the good your death will bring as your mortal form is consumed by my brilliance!≺Marker: 7F3100≻≺NewLine≻

This is the text for Gigaflare activating.

Humanity unites, yet it comes to nothing.≺NewLine≻Consider the mountains and rivers consumed by the Emptiness...≺Marker: 7F3100≻≺NewLine≻
No matter how great your desire for humanity's survival, mortals lack the ability to alter their beginnings.≺Marker: 7F3100≻≺NewLine≻
All you can do is choose your ending.≺NewLine≻The light of the Wyrmking shall reveal the justice of your decision!≺Marker: 7F3100≻≺NewLine≻
Winged brothers and sisters, hear my call!≺Marker: 7F3100≻≺NewLine≻
All those who traverse the endless sea of clouds! All those who bear the shadowless sun as they cross the skies!≺Marker: 7F3100≻≺NewLine≻
Come join me in the shedding of divine blood!≺Marker: 7F3100≻≺NewLine≻

This would be the text for "The Wyrmking Descends (pt1)". It really looks like this BCNM is going to be an 18 person vs multiple Wyrms, or at least one at a time.

To think that you could repel the greatest of my power... Your strength is laudable, Children of Vana'diel.≺Marker: 7F3100≻≺NewLine≻
You may even be able to overcome the inheritor of the will of the Emptiness...≺Marker: 7F3100≻≺NewLine≻
The Children of Vana'diel fly without wings. With a mere fragment of that power, one could rise to the sun.≺Marker: 7F3100≻≺NewLine≻

This would be the text for "The Wyrmking Descends (pt2)"

Since you cannot recall these two cutscenes in from the Goblin NPC in RivB01, it is likely this BCNM is unimplemented at this point in time :/ .

Other text we haven't seen:

≺Player Name≻ uses ≺Marker: 7F8201≻≺Marker: 7F8103≻≺Item Parameter 0≻!≺Marker: 7F3100≻≺NewLine≻
≺Player Name≻ uses ≺Marker: 7F8201≻≺Marker: 7F8103≻≺Item Parameter 0≻, but nothing happens.≺Marker: 7F3100≻≺NewLine≻

My best guess is this has something to do with the Monarch Orb. The first line is the text from trading an active orb, and the second line is the text from trading a used orb.

We must make preparations and consult with Cardinal Mildaurion.≺Marker: 7F3100≻≺NewLine≻

This text appears after the possible Monarch Orb trading text. It's likely Ulima speaking, but she never says this line in any of the RivB01 or Mis. Coast cutscenes. Chronologically it occurs before the "The Wyrmking Descends" text, but it could be Ulmina/Prishe in a very brief cutscene after you defeat Bahamut for a second time.

[Isildur]

Finally, the last notable thing in the dialog tables is that in Ru'Lude Gardens, there is dialog which is clearly Bahamut speaking ...

00003333 Mankind will be annihilated. You have simply delayed the process.≺Marker: 7F3100≻≺NewLine≻
00003334 Do you dare to defy fate once again and fight to preserve your lives?≺Marker: 7F3100≻≺NewLine≻
00003335 Defy fate and fight?≺NewLine≻≺Selection Dialog≻Fight and live!≺NewLine≻Fate is inevitable.≺Marker: 7F3100≻≺NewLine≻
00003336 Children of Vana'diel! ≺Multiple Choice (Parameter 0)≻[Stand in defiance/Accept your fate] and perish! Redeem the world as a part of the mothercrystals!
00003337 You have delayed mankind's extinction yet again...≺Marker: 7F3100≻≺NewLine≻
00003338 An age is a mere flicker to a wyrm. However, enough flickers united form a star.≺Marker: 7F3100≻≺NewLine≻
00003339 Children of Vana'diel.≺NewLine≻Unite and form a future in which mankind can survive.

when SE fits Bahamut in Ru'lude Gardens, im going to shit myself

[Lordwafik]

Finally, the last notable thing in the dialog tables is that in Ru'Lude Gardens, there is dialog which is clearly Bahamut speaking ...

00003333 Mankind will be annihilated. You have simply delayed the process.≺Marker: 7F3100≻≺NewLine≻
00003334 Do you dare to defy fate once again and fight to preserve your lives?≺Marker: 7F3100≻≺NewLine≻
00003335 Defy fate and fight?≺NewLine≻≺Selection Dialog≻Fight and live!≺NewLine≻Fate is inevitable.≺Marker: 7F3100≻≺NewLine≻
00003336 Children of Vana'diel! ≺Multiple Choice (Parameter 0)≻[Stand in defiance/Accept your fate] and perish! Redeem the world as a part of the mothercrystals!
00003337 You have delayed mankind's extinction yet again...≺Marker: 7F3100≻≺NewLine≻
00003338 An age is a mere flicker to a wyrm. However, enough flickers united form a star.≺Marker: 7F3100≻≺NewLine≻
00003339 Children of Vana'diel.≺NewLine≻Unite and form a future in which mankind can survive.

when SE fits Bahamut in Ru'lude Gardens, im going to shit myself

Could just be a CS of him in there.

[nivlakian]

We must make preparations and consult with Cardinal Mildaurion.≺Marker: 7F3100≻≺NewLine≻

This text appears after the possible Monarch Orb trading text. It's likely Ulima speaking, but she never says this line in any of the RivB01 or Mis. Coast cutscenes. Chronologically it occurs before the "The Wyrmking Descends" text, but it could be Ulmina/Prishe in a very brief cutscene after you defeat Bahamut for a second time.

She does say this in the CS when you win.

http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/4...amutend1nr.jpg

[Demetrios]

Could just be a CS of him in there.

That text is said by Bahamut, word for word, in Storms of Fate BCNM (before you enter and after you win.) You can also find the conversation between Ulmina and Prishe from when you talk to the gate in Mis. Coast in the Ru'Lude file. I don't think it's a new CS, it's just laziness on Square's part or it's placed there for some developer reason that we'll never understand.

00000683 We must make preparations and consult with Cardinal Mildaurion.≺Marker: 7F3100≻≺NewLine≻

Can't argue with a screenshot ._.; Ok, that text line is placed way after the cutscene after you beat Bahamut. That throws out the idea of the text having any chronological sense to it. (Bahamut ending cutscene is line 671, then there's copied/pasted crap from the 2nd Ru'lude cutscene until line 682 (keep in mind that this is the RivB01 dat file), and then at 683 is the out of place line.)

[GRT]

wouldn't it be awesome to fight bahamut and the other 4 wyrms in ru'lude gardens? whole zone of dynamis-jeuno as a 18 man bc XD

[Jeebz]

When Esha'ntarl mention at the last cutscene that we should "gather an army of adventurer and challenge him yet again" we should start with the NPCs that helped us during the missions??

If i have time to run around today and look around ill see what i can dig up..but if anyone has the time to do it feel free and lets see what you get>.>

[Iskra]

its a 64man bcnm for the final bahamut

[nivlakian]

its a 64man bcnm for the final bahamut

How was this figured out?

[Cantide]

its a 64man bcnm for the final bahamut

How was this figured out?

Someone posted it on KI so it must be true!

[Khamsin]

From:FINAL FANTASY XI
Dec. 14, 2005 03:45 [PST]

Details on Current Known Issues (cont.)

Since the implementation of the latest version update on Dec. 12, 2005, the following issues have been discovered.

We have conducted maintenance at 3:00 (PST) on Dec. 14, 2005 to address the following issues:

- An issue wherein the "Storms of Fate" quest could not be completed under certain circumstances.

- An issue with the "Aern" type monsters not displaying properly within the following areas: Al'Taieu, Grand Palace of Hu'Xzoi, Empyreal Paradox.

- An issue where "Phuabo" type monsters in the Al'Taieu area could not be targeted.

We apologize for any inconvenience

Has anyone completed "Storms of Fate", now that they fixed it so you can finish it? Or was this "unable to complete" bug another issue that people already got around?

[Sykes]

It was late, so I didn't think about the text during Megaflare and Gigaflare. As someone pointed out, I did know about the text that he says at the end of the fight, but the notable part is that it appears in the dialog tables in Ru'Lude Gardens, not Riverne Site #B01. I suspect it may be a flash back, but it could also be that Square-Enix needed to re-use parts of the cutscene and just copied over the entire scene (out of lazyness or necessity). One thing that is particularly out-of-place in Jeuno would be this part ...

00003342 ≺Player Name≻, please tell Cardinal Mildaurion about this the next time you are in Jeuno.≺Marker: 7F3100≻≺NewLine≻

... given that you are already in Jeuno.

I'm not convinced that The Wyrmking Descends isn't in the game yet based on the lack of the goblin offering to recall the story. It could be that there are just no cutscenes involved with the second fight (much like the Ouryu fight) ... the dialog could be in-battle text or something of that nature.

[Kaylia]

Why would the goblin offer you a story you havent seen? or you mean it's not a choice in the .dat?

[nivlakian]

Why would the goblin offer you a story you havent seen? or you mean it's not a choice in the .dat?

I'm pretty sure they were referring to it not being a choice in the dats.

[divisortheory]

One thing that is particularly out-of-place in Jeuno would be this part ...

00003342 ≺Player Name≻, please tell Cardinal Mildaurion about this the next time you are in Jeuno.≺Marker: 7F3100≻≺NewLine≻

... given that you are already in Jeuno.

I got that text in the cutscene after the fight, while still in Riverne - Site #B01