My Life In Vana'diel

[Eternus]

Let me get this. Milkman doesn't care about HNMLS's but it seems as if he is trying to build one of his own from the ground up. Some of us are interested in coming close as possible to beating the game (I know you can't beat a MMO really). End game is about killing all the most powerful monsters. When I played previous RPGs, I didn't consider myself done with the game until I killed all the hardest monsters/bosses in the game.

Just as a completionist I would think that makes you interested in end game. But if Milkman is the kind of gamer who just gets to max level and doesn't kill any of the bosses in the last dungeon then so be it. Good luck with your attempt at starting up a LS that will eventually do end game activities. Will take you a while but really you will still have drama even amongst friends. Drama happens because there are humans involved. Can't take the human factor out of MMOs.

[FFXIFlux]

Yes alot of the things he says are right of certain LSes, and of certain people, but he knows nothing of what he speaks of, neither by firsthand knowledge or even by association. That's what irritates me, that he feels he has some higher authority because he can type on a public glorified LJ thats supported by his company, and that he feels he has the right to speak on things that he really has no clue about.

Well at least you got one thing out of it then. You've learned how journalism works. Any time I've had first-hand knowledge of something and seen a journalist's take on it, the journalist has screwed things up beyond all recognition. It's not their job to give you the truth or report facts, it's their job to generate advertising revenue. Knowing what they're talking about, checking facts, or being accurate just slows things down.

[Khamsin]

My dream is to one day have enough of the same likeminded folks bound together by a common goal, who move as one, with none of the in-fighting, elitism, or snobbery that comes with applying for a "position" within one of every server's North American "HNMLS."

Guess he's never heard of JP HNMLSs. One trip to KB is all it takes to prove their existance.

[Eternus]

He probably thinks the JP HNMLSs are full of nice and friendly people who never grief or MPK anyone. It is just NAs who are bad wwwww.

[Nirokun!]

I enjoy the game for what it is ; ;

Maybe it doesnt feel like the first day i played...everyday, but it still feels good to log on and run around

[Unklemonkey]

If you hate this "snobby" attitude that we "elitist" portray then how about you gtfo of these forums.

Look at his post count... he was never in these forums to begin with until he got flamed for his opinion which he didnt post here in the first place

[Maren]

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[IAmAnonymous]

Raineer (the guy milkman meant in his article)
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Phil Collins
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[XxSlusherxx]

I just feel if those are points he wants to make, he should not come across as so high and mighty, which he comes to our board, and continues to do. and this is directed to you Milkman if you cannot see the arrogant tone of your work, both here and there, you need to take a step back and think about it again.

[ProceedWithCaution]

Damn! if i looked like that dude i'd never talk crap or make fun of anyone....... EVER lol and that was his good side he says.

People like that have to say things like he did on that guys app to make himself feel better about his skills. It's really quite sad when you think about it and i'd feel sorry for him if it wasn't for the fact he's appears to be a HUGE jerk. I guess being rdm # 9 on an HNM ls gives you the right to treat people like that? idk i think the only way to apprciate this game is~ tolerance and understanding , it's about what you do not what they do in the end.

Your game your time your memories~ whats it all going to be about?

Question of the day~ Does phil Collins make you randy baby?


Signed~
The concerned King of Canada

[Vegnagon]

actually he should have, making a statement like that shows us that you have no actual endgame experience and therefore lowers any credibility you have in said topic. also for the record your roundabout ppl would not win against the same job if the other job had maxed merits. that is a fact check you should have done before you made the comment, which shows me you dont have the endgame experience to make the comments that you did. If you hate this "snobby" attitude that we "elitist" portray then how about you gtfo of these forums. simple as that. You comment that you have "no time for the attitude" and that you dont like the bickering which comes with endgame shells, but you sure have no problem coming here and creating more. I actually aggreed with your post 100%, i just have the attitude if you dont like it stay out of the forums which display this behavior.

pretty sure that milk is credible on anything he says, and the maxed out merit guy might win but its not 100% on anything. If i go to fight someone like that imma give it everything i got n make it hard as hell to win.

maybe you just need to do your homework and find out all the shit thats going on that you don't see before you go bashin n being all L33T lol.

[XxSlusherxx]

actually he should have, making a statement like that shows us that you have no actual endgame experience and therefore lowers any credibility you have in said topic. also for the record your roundabout ppl would not win against the same job if the other job had maxed merits. that is a fact check you should have done before you made the comment, which shows me you dont have the endgame experience to make the comments that you did. If you hate this "snobby" attitude that we "elitist" portray then how about you gtfo of these forums. simple as that. You comment that you have "no time for the attitude" and that you dont like the bickering which comes with endgame shells, but you sure have no problem coming here and creating more. I actually aggreed with your post 100%, i just have the attitude if you dont like it stay out of the forums which display this behavior.

pretty sure that milk is credible on anything he says, and the maxed out merit guy might win but its not 100% on anything. If i go to fight someone like that imma give it everything i got n make it hard as hell to win.

maybe you just need to do your homework and find out all the shit thats going on that you don't see before you go bashin n being all L33T lol.

it is 100%, merits do a LOT. I didn't realise it until I started to cap mine, I was a beast compared to my old self.

[Unklemonkey]

Merits may do alot, but they won't do jack shit if you don't know your job, what he's saying is he trusts his ls members skill at their jobs, and he dosnt have to rely on their gear to know that they will get things done.

There are many people in HNM shells that flat out suck at their jobs, and are only accepted because of what job they are (i.e rng pre-nerf, blms, smns)

[Septimus]

actually he should have, making a statement like that shows us that you have no actual endgame experience and therefore lowers any credibility you have in said topic. also for the record your roundabout ppl would not win against the same job if the other job had maxed merits. that is a fact check you should have done before you made the comment, which shows me you dont have the endgame experience to make the comments that you did. If you hate this "snobby" attitude that we "elitist" portray then how about you gtfo of these forums. simple as that. You comment that you have "no time for the attitude" and that you dont like the bickering which comes with endgame shells, but you sure have no problem coming here and creating more. I actually aggreed with your post 100%, i just have the attitude if you dont like it stay out of the forums which display this behavior.

pretty sure that milk is credible on anything he says, and the maxed out merit guy might win but its not 100% on anything. If i go to fight someone like that imma give it everything i got n make it hard as hell to win.

maybe you just need to do your homework and find out all the shit thats going on that you don't see before you go bashin n being all L33T lol.

it is 100%, merits do a LOT. I didn't realise it until I started to cap mine, I was a beast compared to my old self.

I have 4 sword merits, effectively giving me a B+ skill. I have noticed a fairly substantial difference from my old B skill.

I would have used my 6 enfeebling magic merits as a reference, but enfeebling just sucks. >_<

[aurik]

After reading the quote in context at the IN boards, I find it extremely ironic and an excellent example of hypocrisy that he uses it to go on a large finger-wagging rant about how "my LS is better than your LS because we're not elitist!".

[Amarok]

After reading the quote in context at the IN boards, I find it extremely ironic and an excellent example of hypocrisy that he uses it to go on a large finger-wagging rant about how "my LS is better than your LS because we're not elitist!".

Quoted for truth.

But some people seem to think that having mega-uber-rare virtual pants (or gloves, or maybe a bow!) is a license to treat another player like a piece of shit. Do I have a problem with that? Yeah. I hardly think that's a surprising reaction. The items may not be real, but the malicious intent is.

You seem to think that because you don't have "mega-uber-rare virtual pants (or gloves, or maybe a bow!)" it gives you the right to assume anyone who does must be an elitist asshole.

4) go off chasing some cyber-tail (hey, guys, they probably don't look as good in real life - MEOW!)

Did you not get married in game?

[Lockecole]

Well I said what I needed to on our forums, and I really dont wanna drag this into BG Forums anymore then it has been. I will respond to one thing.

I haven't so much as said "boo" to you since you exam-raped me in Ordelle's a year ago when you couldn't voke a Chyme off me, but whatever.

I was actually asking in my LS why the hell a RDM would be wearing a Beetle Earring, and checked you repeatedly to make sure I wasn't seeing things. :D Trust me, Ive camped many Chymes in my time, I wasn't wondering why I "couldn't voke it off you" (not even sure what that means) but thanks for acting like you know me. :wink:

If you only knew that I know alot more then you think I know...this conversation would be VERY different. I may not work for a magazine, but trust me, you're not the only one here with privilaged information.

[Keeblerelf]

than worrying about camping Ullikumi for 3 hours just so that I have a chance at potentially getting a piece of gear from Genbu that will only help me to fight mobs like Genbu in the first place.

mmm last I checked... Ulli pop item was used for byakko
i suggest if you post something you do your hw first then post since apparently you never even experienced endgame

LMAO

I just knew silly people would latch on to that - but I guess you guys totally missed my point... which is "who even cares?!" Fighting HNMs for gear will always take a back seat to true friends in need. I was trying to illustrate that I care so little I don't even know who drops what and which HNM it triggers. I just know that I have to show up for things like Ullikumi hunting if I want to get drops from mobs like Genbu (I chose to say Genbu because he drops the Martial Abjuration I want and Ullikumi because I am still frustrated that I helped camp him for 3 hours and we didn't even get the claim)... besides, I just go fight the mobs... I don't hang on to the trigger items. My LS leaders do.

So yeah, nice catch fact checkers but I did that intentionally.

Oh, and while I may not have tons and tons of end game experience, as I only just came back to the game and hit 75 barely a month ago, here are some pics for those of you who think I have none at all:

http://eliandlaura.com/ffxi/genbu.jpg
http://eliandlaura.com/ffxi/suzaku.jpg
http://eliandlaura.com/ffxi/seiryu.jpg

So yeah - take my words literally if you want and claim I don't know sh*t - I was just trying to make a point. Those of you that took issue with the the fact that my statement was incorrect only strengthen my belief in the way I feel. I mean, come on, who really cares if I know what mob drops what trigger when I am not responsible for any of that? Well, probably the people that Milk wrote this article about, I guess. It may have been viewed as harsh by many who read it, but there is a lot of truth to what he said and certain people (not all... just certain people) would do well to take it to heart.

Oh well... I'm done here... back to xp'ing WAR and chatting with my friends.

{Peace} {Outpost}

EDIT: actually before I go for good I just wanted to add one thing. I am not anti-HNMls... as evidenced by the fact that I am in one. I just like to think that I have my priorities straight in that having fun and chatting with friends in Roundabouts LS comes before worrying about whether or not I am going to get that sweet piece of Koenig gear. I don't sweat that stuff... I just like to have fun.

Okay... now I am really leaving. >.>

[FFXIFlux]

I just knew silly people would latch on to that - but I guess you guys totally missed my point... which is "who even cares?!" Fighting HNMs for gear will always take a back seat to true friends in need.

Same arguement in that article, the touchy-feely, "you can't take the osode with you" "all you'll have is screenshots." Guess what, you're not going to have your guildmates either. I didn't keep 72 "true friends" from when I left Everquest, and I'm not going to when I leave FFXI either, and neither are you.

If I wanted true friends I wouldn't be loading up FFXI, I'd be going to a bar or club and the true friend I meet there would be sharing some much more interesting games with me.

You might make and keep a few friends from your online games, but thats not why you play them, and it's not why you keep playing them, addicts excuses ad nauseum to the contrary.

[Eternus]

My RL friend is in the same end game LS as me. Been playing with him since level 1. I got osode off Kirin exactly two weeks after him and we were in the same room when it happened. You can do end game and keep your friends, not only that but you can make more friends in the process. Drama only gets to people who take this game too seriously.

I laugh it up when I am MPKd and don't understand why people cry so much about it. Oh noes I didn't get the drops and had to HP cuz some JPs cure bombed my tank while standing on the tail and Fafnir flailed the entire room. This kind of stuff actually makes me laugh now. I remember getting pissed off though the first few times I saw someone steal a mob or I got MPKd though. After a 4 hour MPK festival versus gilsellers at Overlord, I kind of got over the whole MPK thing. Now you can't really get MPKd like that anymore. So even less crap to cry about and less excuses to experience end game yourself.