Seriously....

[Nirokun!]

lol, just penises lol

oh oh! my shout little rhymey thing i did in dynamis the other night!:


Penises are great~

Penises are good~

I love penises and everybody should~!

[Aldondamar]

Eugh, I really shouldn't have clicked on that link, but curiousity took over.

I think I've got a cataract in the lens of my eye now...

[Lockecole]

If I wanted to see a Penis...I'd look down...I have the control not to click that link.

Oh well... I can't change your mind, I disagree with half of your statements, but I guess thats what makes you gay, and me straight. Its much easier to please a guy then it is a girl, thus taking much less effort, so I assume its just a matter of some people not wanting to put the effort in. I'm the type of person who likes to put effort into something I do. :wink:

[Lordwafik]

EWwwwwwwwww nirokun

Uncircumsized discks are so ugly.

[Carbon]

Being gay isn't a choice, I don't care what people say. I fought it for four years before I finally accepted myself for who I am.

There *is* however, a choice in the level of 'gayness' that a person acts. For example, lisps, drag queen shit, etc. etc. The exact kind of thing that gives gays a very bad name.

[Janice]

EWwwwwwwwww nirokun

Uncircumsized discks are so ugly.

Yeah, Lordwafik only likes looking at lots of circumsized ones.

[Lordwafik]

EWwwwwwwwww nirokun

Uncircumsized discks are so ugly.

Yeah, Lordwafik only likes looking at lots of circumsized ones.

I like my circumsized one, it looks so much nicer than an uncircumsized one.

Did you even look at the penis bouqet? all that extra dangly skin, ew. It looked like an elephant.

[Lockecole]

Being gay isn't a choice, I don't care what people say. I fought it for four years before I finally accepted myself for who I am.

There *is* however, a choice in the level of 'gayness' that a person acts. For example, lisps, drag queen shit, etc. etc. The exact kind of thing that gives gays a very bad name.

IMO sexuality/and your preferance is something that is molded by your past, and your childhood. There are a number of things that can happen when you're younger that can lead to being gay...or not. Everything has an effect on who we are as a person, and I feel many things including being gay, can be narrowed down to certain issues or events, or your environment, as a child and even into teenhood. I don't wanna get into a debate though...but to say being gay isn't a choice...is to say that nothing in your life is. We are all merely products of our environment. I'm not saying I necessarily believe that to be true, but to say that gay isnt a choice, is to say that that statement is true.

[Pawky]

Its much easier to please a guy then it is a girl, thus taking much less effort, so I assume its just a matter of some people not wanting to put the effort in. I'm the type of person who likes to put effort into something I do. :wink:

So you've fucked a guy to know this for sure? lol

[Lockecole]

So you've fucked a guy to know this for sure? lol

Spoken like a true virgin....I'm a guy you moron. I think it's pretty fucking obvious how much easier it is to please a guy in comparison to a woman...when you live as one every day.

[Pawky]

you must be the worst lay in the world =\

[Lockecole]

If you're a guy, yeah... I'd be pretty bad. :D

[Nirokun!]

Carbon is right lol (except for the OPINION on the 'higher' levels of gayness being a bad thing, just makes some of us more interesting than the rest o.o, but yeah, behavior and mannerisms can be controlled, just like changing the side of the table you sit on to eat your breakfast cereal)

Do you think anyone would CHOOSE to live a life of discrimination? lol

You must not have any gay friends, otherwise you would know its not a choice. Thats like saying having depression is a choice, or getting hit by rain is a choice. Granted, yes, you can live a life in the closet, take medication, use an umbrella....but a lot of that is stressful and the extra effort is difficult to put up with. Pretending that the person you love more than yourself is nothing to you in front of your family, friends, strangers...thats tough. Its something i think you know nothing about.

and about the effort thing~

What takes more effort as a man? holding hands with a boy, or a girl, in public? You cant assume that effort exists in only one place in the environment. (And probably tmi for you, but i think it takes a lot more effort to make a guy come -solely from anal stimulation- than it does for a girl from vaginal, you think about that one)

Wafik: Uncircumcised penises need love too~

You guys, so silly :3

[Akiro]

you really scare me

[Nirokun!]

love you too~!

[Lockecole]

You must not have any gay friends, otherwise you would know its not a choice.

I've had several gay friends, some of which I even know in FFXI in addition to RL. Nothing about a gay persons actions or choices in life make me believe that it is something that was set in stone from the beginning of their life, just like I dont feel ANY choice someone makes, and ANY outcome of someones life is in anyway something they were "born with" or "don't have a choice regarding, etc."

Thats like saying having depression is a choice, or getting hit by rain is a choice. Granted, yes, you can live a life in the closet, take medication, use an umbrella....but a lot of that is stressful and the extra effort is difficult to put up with

So you're comparing something that you believe to be an illness with being gay, and something as trivial as getting hit by rain? Stepping out into the rain is a choice. Regardless of wether or not you wanna realize that.

People are in alot more control of their life then many of us let off to be, and ALOT more then the drug companies want us to think we are. If you think depression isn't a choice of how we deal with issues of our life, and the events in it, and instead that its a medically diagnosable illness, then we definately don't see on level ground. And if you do believe its an illness....you're comparing being gay to it why? Do you believe that is also an illness? I don't see what part of either depression as an illness or being in the rain are in anyway related by your means of comparing the two.

I don't have anything against gay people, I do have something against people who try to justify something, but in reality have no real reason why they feel they are justifying it. You obviously, at least relating back to your two examples, aren't very familiar with arguing your points...so I dont see where this discussion will go.

(And probably tmi for you, but i think it takes a lot more effort to make a guy come -solely from anal stimulation- than it does for a girl from vaginal, you think about that one)

Yeah...great example. I could try and make a woman cum by inserting my penis into her ear and say it takes alot of effort to make her cum. No shit, try sticking it somewhere it should be.(Sorry, probably tmi .)

[royze]

i pay homage to the bg forums, where no matter what thread you post, it will be hijacked by homosexuals

[Carbon]

I think it's funny when straight people try to explain how gay people live their lives and the problems they face because they have "gay friends." Sounds to me exactly like the catholic church.

There is obviously no proof in this argument either way, but I know that in my life, I can remember "signs" leading up to where I am now. Obviously, being as young as I was, I never paid any real attention to it or even thought about it. When I grew older, somewhere around fifteen through seventeen, I started to think about it more. Why didn't I like girls? Am I not normal? It always disgusted me seeing guys flirting all over women (when in fact, I think I may have just been jealous). However, because the way society in America (and a lot of other places in the world) are so damned sheltered/closeted about homosexuality, I pushed it aside.

It wasn't until last year that I started to actually piece the puzzle together, and now I finally know who I really am.

It had nothing to do with my childhood experiences. I lead a pretty normal life. Parents that didn't divorce, siblings, etc. Doesn't get much more plain than that.

[Lordwafik]

Niro brings up a good point. Nobody would just wake up and say "Hmmmm I think i'm gonna be gay today, I just love being discriminated against!". And most likley if someone decided "I'll be gay today" and someone stuck a penis near their face, they'd get so disgusted.

It's not like you chose to be straight either lock? it's just natural, that's how niro/carbon feel too I guess.

[Ajani]

I might be gay if I didn't have a beautiful girlfriend I love very much. Alot of men don't seem sensative enough to where I'd want to be in a relationship thou.

Aslong as the person loves me & I learn to love them I don't care about the gender. Sex isn't even part of this.