What if

[Shigemo]

Yes I stay because of my friends :wink:
I love them so much, my friend list is huge

[Vecan]

Interessing answer.
Yes indeed it is centered in pimping out your character.
Why do we do sky? Is it just for the challenge or to get our godly gear and abjurations and more. [Notice the gods look like mobs we see around XD Manticore, Perython, Tiger, Adamantoise, etc.]
Why do we do dynamis? Mostly for our AF2, relics, currencies, attestations and more.

There's many things to do that is related to get an equip.

But what about the players that already have what they wanted like me?

Also in the items I listed, many of them are things some players will never touch. Would it be fair to give everyone the chance to enjoy them

That's what I meant when I said: is the goal of ffxi just go get all the best items

Sky was fun at first, but it got old fast. It takes a lot of time to get the 8 items needed for the 4 gods to pop the 1 kirin, and there's nothing dynamic about it, it's always the same repetitive fights. People do it to either get their sky gear, or build up points/credit/whatever so that they can lot whatever else they are looking for on ground or wherever.

There is nothing worth doing more then once at the end of the game that is not related to equips. Eliminating the timesinks required to get those items would expose how shallow a game FFXI is when people realize they have nothing else to do. This isn't something SE would do because they're in the business of keeping you paying every month.

Either way, the items you listed are not necessities to any job. Giving players free luxuries defeats the purpose and challenge of obtaining them and will void any excitement or satisfaction once you get to use them and see everybody else around you with the same stuff.

[Shigemo]

I love that 100% drop rate idea + Ex.Rare

When you must kill an NM like 22 times to make him spit your item, it is time consuming.

[cubone]

personally i would have BST 75 right now if i could play offline. course there would be those that hack their characters if this was possible.

NO! SE can nerf your offline BST with frickin lazers!

your only solution :

GOGOGOGOGO h@xxors away!! NOW WITH 4 SPLIT SCREEN ACTION!

[thompkinsthebrian]

they can nerf it if they want to. i would solo with WHM if i could play it offline

[cubone]

maybe you didnt hear me the first time...

the all you can offline eat buffet with all the fixings +3 extra seats!!

[Endo]

Personally............ this topic sucks it reminds me of Alah. Think about what you proposed. Why in the hell would I lvl a job to 75 just to wear an Osode that I already have in my inventory? Just put your suggestions into the other 2 threads that have good topics about the economy and how to fix it instead of making new ones. There is no rating system on BG boards so noone is going to rate you up or down just try to keep the topics at least somewhat decent.

Oh and I don't want you to feel I was attacking you but this use to be a place full of knowledge and suggestions about end game not tweaking your lvl 15 war/whm

[Zigma]

maybe you didnt hear me the first time...

http://www.twyg11.com/images/pso.jpg

the all you can offline eat buffet with all the fixings +3 extra seats!!

lol, the only reason i bought that game (for gc) was to use the loaders to boot ISO's.

[thompkinsthebrian]

which sounds good cubone and i went to the site there and read the review BUT i like FFXI and want to play that. thats all i am saying

solo WHM to 75!

[cubone]

maybe you didnt hear me the first time...


the all you can offline eat buffet with all the fixings +3 extra seats!!

lol, the only reason i bought that game (for gc) was to use the loaders to boot ISO's.

ROFL i did the same thing ! well i got PSO then the next day!
FFXI comes out LOOOOL!! boy!! whatta mistake that was!

hehe can you say Mario Kart 64 ROM on GC? with wavebirds? :wink:
that and also Naruto Gekitou Ninja Taisen 1 for like 2 months straight

too bad that whole scene kinda....fizzled
5 mins a loadtime suxxored;

FF cravings yous says? eh? then

you can like totally name everyone after the peeps of your Linkshell!
and no you can never have too much FFT, Advance yes, but FFT NO!

[thompkinsthebrian]

lol, i hate my linkshell >.>

for some reason i get kicked from linkshells often something about my attitude and telling people off for not knowing what they are doing. though in my opinion it shouldnt take more then 50 levels to learn your job but thats just me apparently.

i loved tactics. i even bought suikoden tactics cause of the same gameplay.


still want to be able to play FFXI ofline that way i can go back and load it back into the server and play online.

wtf was this thread about again?

[Lockecole]

you can like totally name everyone after the peeps of your Linkshell!
and no you can never have too much FFT, Advance yes, but FFT NO!

Truer words have never been spoken.

[Tyche]

There is nothing worth doing more then once at the end of the game that is not related to equips. Eliminating the timesinks required to get those items would expose how shallow a game FFXI is when people realize they have nothing else to do. This isn't something SE would do because they're in the business of keeping you paying every month.

This is about the same for every MMO. You do something once for pride, and just to say "i did it". After that, it becomes a chore farming to get people what they want from that particular monster. Wyrm's however, if they dropped nothing, id still just LOVE to kill them.

[BRP]

Playing any game is a time sink. The entire game, not just parts of it, is a time sink. The reason I like FFXI better than other games its because its a nice and interesting time sink. I feel like that time was well sunk. Its not going to be used up as a time sink as quickly as other games as well. Lastly, I have fun.

[Cletis]

well... with the new jobs out... and people not knowing what the best subjobs are for them i think a offline game with a parse would help?

and see what a 75 in those jobs can do for those of us who actually have a life... i just dont get how theres 60+ jobs already

i originally meant this to be for people who are noobs and want to see what your abilities could be.. but if im just gonna get flamed because this might hurt SE's profits... then im sorry

[Erza]

leave

[Genosync]

@op

[genome]

I don't think Cletis idea would necessarily be a bad one for the purpose he seems to imply, as a way to test out things before trying to achieve them in the actual online game.

For example being able to test the effect of different gear setups and circumstances to have even more accurate equations and insights on things like activation rates, or all the new assault items, or for weird caps on stats where adding more doesn't seem to do much past a certain point (e.g. evasion).
Or even for people to test out what it plays/feels like to be lvl 75 with a certain job before actually spending time to get all the way there (although that might still not tell you that as RDM you'll endup being used as a refresh machine 99.9% of the times instead of anything more fun).

However I don't think it would be possible to do it with windower extensions etc just because a lot of stuff happens on the server, and while you could build a fake ffxi server as needed you still wouldn't fully know the actual equations the real game/server uses, especially for things like the randomness added to each equation or to things like drops (for questions like the impact of TH+ on rare ex etc).

[macbain24]

This is a KI thread. You post KI threads here http://killingifrit.com/ not here http://www.theorderls.com/phpBB2/index.php

[Daahan]

Communism sucks

qft

@OP: No, just no.