sad when your gilsellers look like this...

[edgarfigaro]

thank you to everyone on this thread for making my morning that much more humorous.

guilty until proven innocent, fker.

looks like a duck.
walks like a duck.
talks like a chinese gilselling mpking hnmstealing cocksucker duck.

It's a gilseller, and a duck.

no, you're just a naive fucking idiot, and that's not sarcasm.

[thompkinsthebrian]

interesting....who exactly is defending gilsellers?

that may be true but a lot of people just call people a gil seller cause they dont speak either english or japanese. and they have a chinese named LS.
as for camping shit 24/7 dont a lot of endgame LS do very similar things? maybe not 24/7 but they are there for a good long time.


just saying you should have more evidance before calling someone a gilseller

[quote:6077c]or that they go to the same university or play off a base Lan. i know you are being sarcastic but these are possibilities

Someone who makes up excuses, out of the blue, is in defense of someone. If you're so adamant about proving everyone wrong when it comes to gilsellers, why not go out there camp to camp. Hell ask half of these people and they will straight up tell you they are from China and that this is their job. You want evidence, yet people show you OVERWHELMING circumstancial evidence, and all you can say to that is more outrageous defences for the gilsellers. Why not go out there, camp to camp to camp, ask them questions, get info LIKE THE PEOPLE HERE HAVE, or just please remain ignorant about the subject like you have, and move on.[/quote:6077c]


im not necessarily defending gilsellers by saying that. i am defending someone being accused of gil selling.

and i say again with overwhelming evidence i would also agree but this goes back to me saying no one thing can make someone a gilseller. and even if they have all these things there is still explainations behind it besides being a gil seller.


defending a gil seller is when someone says "There is absolutely nothing wrong with RMT"

Me saying hey maybe they play at the same university and lost connection isnt defending a gilseller, its saying that maybe they disconnected for legit reasons.

[Flarega]

Oh god shutup you retard -.-

[thompkinsthebrian]

Oh god shutup you retard -.-

witty post you have there.

[Gamutstreet]

Oh god shutup you retard -.-

I lol'd.

[Flarega]

witty post you have there.

Funny thing is, more people will agree with and support that post rather than support what you have been saying throughout the entire topic.

[Arvin]

Our gil sellers are all bsts really. Some random groups still hit up kuftal,zvahl,etc.

A bunch of them got sky, began to try and farm genbu but a lot of people (including myself) mpk'd them to shit. So they never go to sky again.

[DrObvious]

What difference to YOU is it where the gil ends up? I don't lose any sleep over people giving out their earned gil for free OR for real money and I honestly don't see how anyone could. /shrug

Because it causes inflation which DOES affect me, and everyone else.

whats wrong with coming up with different possibilities or explainations to things? Every different reason i have given is completely possible.

Its not like im being unreasonable, or that i dont believe that more then likely these guys are gilsellers, all iwas saying since the very first time i posted, is that someone camping a NM a lot doesnt give enough evidence that they are a gilseller.

Everyone that has replied to my posts with a different opinion is fine but are you actually reading what i wrote before you reply? or are you just selectively reading and making it sound the way you want it to?

And it's completely possible that aliens are teleporting your plane from one side of the world to the other in order to further the illusion that the world is spherical. It sure sounds like not even you believe your explanations to be likely, so why make them? Is it a coincidence that we see multiple chinese controlled players farming nms on every single server and all dcing at the same time because they all happen to be friends and attend the same university?

[thompkinsthebrian]

It sure sounds like not even you believe your explanations to be likely, so why make them?

see location...i got nothing else better to do

[jerkbox]

What difference to YOU is it where the gil ends up? I don't lose any sleep over people giving out their earned gil for free OR for real money and I honestly don't see how anyone could. /shrug

Because it causes inflation which DOES affect me, and everyone else.

We can't really prove that it does cause inflation as we don't have an FFXI economy without RMT so it's really easy to just point the finger at gilsellers.

The truth is we don't know if inflation WASN'T going to happen without RMTing. Just because people don't sell gil doesn't mean they won't use gil-creating exploits (Rusty Caps, that NPC gil exploit, duping, etc). That's the true underlying cause of inflation... more money being created than is being dumped. RMT just helps inflation in bursts like the last holiday season because they hold a big chunk of currency and then put it back into the market when a lot of people buy the gil. Now think about if instead of them holding a big chunk of currency in a non-RMT world. All of it would be in the market and controlled by even fewer players (exploiters with a stronger buying power than non-exploiters). They too would cause inflation... maybe less, maybe more. We don't know, but there would be inflation regardless just from exploits.

I admit a year+ ago when Rusty Caps were around I abused the crap out of it. It was a broken way to make gil and I had tremendous buying power over non-rusty cappers. I didn't even do it for that long and I could get almost anything I wanted on the AH. If it wasn't RMTing that caused inflation, it would be other people like me causing it.

[jerkbox]

To Lockecole.. you quoted my posts but they're not even defending gilsellers. I KNOW they are gilsellers from evidence so I'm not just being ignorant. My post was questioning why people get worked up so much about them more than your typical HNM LS that act the same way (monopolize, sell item, MPK in some cases). I don't condone RMT but I don't see why people make a big deal out of it as if the gilsellers are hurting them personally.

Now thompkin... he's just ignoring evidence and common sense.

[Demosthenes11]

The truth is we don't know if inflation WASN'T going to happen without RMTing. Just because people don't sell gil doesn't mean they won't use gil-creating exploits (Rusty Caps, that NPC gil exploit, duping, etc). That's the true underlying cause of inflation... more money being created than is being dumped. RMT just helps inflation in bursts like the last holiday season because they hold a big chunk of currency and then put it back into the market when a lot of people buy the gil. Now think about if instead of them holding a big chunk of currency in a non-RMT world. All of it would be in the market and controlled by even fewer players (exploiters with a stronger buying power than non-exploiters). They too would cause inflation... maybe less, maybe more. We don't know, but there would be inflation regardless just from exploits.

lol, does this even need replying to?

[thompkinsthebrian]

Now thompkin... he's just ignoring evidence and common sense.

no im not. ive already said that the examples you all gave are more then liekly right im just giving examples of other explainations.


im not ignoring evidence or common sense. just doing something to kill time