9/11 "hijackers" alive

[XxSlusherxx]

Amazing. I should have known that any cry for the expression of integrity and logic in any post on the internet would be met only with failed attempts at wit (lolpictures/sensationalistic comments) or allegations of low intelligence and thinking that any government is 100 percent honest.

Seriously, I just scrolled from top to bottom at a moderate pace and caught the highlights. Spare me your pitiful insults, I'm not about to listen to people who so readily accept poor quality video as hard evidence.

By the way, I watched all 70 some minutes of that video many months ago, thank you very much. Yet another example of how "you people" are completely wrong, not that I expect you to notice.

First, you didn't read my post, because I said, your welcome to question the sources since it was an internet movie. Second, it is only 60 minutes long. You spout off about integrety of posts, and "low intellegence alligations" well, bring the meat then homeboy.

[Geostigma]

I don't get what the point of fighting over this stuff is. The past is the past, no amount of fighting or trying to prove another wrong is gonna change that.

[Almaa]

I don't get what the point of fighting over this stuff is. The past is the past, no amount of fighting or trying to prove another wrong is gonna change that.

I'm pretty sure no one here is attempting to change the past... but wouldn't you like to at least know why things happened the way they did and what caused them? It's a search for truth, not changing the past.

[Demosthenes11]

The truth is, we got hit by fucking planes from psycho-islamofascists.
To connect/blame this in any way with bush means you are a fucking retard. Who was president before him that let the middle east multiply evil/terrorism, I forget...

[XxSlusherxx]

The truth is, we got hit by fucking planes from psycho-islamofascists.
To connect/blame this in any way with bush means you are a fucking retard. Who was president before him that let the middle east multiply evil/terrorism, I forget...

But if the people who they said were in the planes were not, then where is your meat? fyi the video doesn't blame bush, it simply says what we have been told happened is not what he thinks happened.

It's an internet video, so I say this with a great if, if his sources are real and his video is unedited, his points are completely logical. For instance, the plane that hit the Pentagon supposedly vaporised in the explosion, but the engines on that type of plane, are made of titanium, which has a higher melting point than the tempature of rocket fuel burning in a pure oxygen enviroment... Thats Meat

If you want to go and give the "we all know what happend open/shut case tyvm" then I suggest you let me know why you are so sure.Radical islam is very real, and it's a problum, but so is the radical religous right, the only thing that you can't dispute is neither you or I know what happened on 9/11 we can only know what we've been told or what we have read, it's time for you to accept the possiblity that it might be a lie.

[Hellboy]

I know... I know.... I know it's wrong but damnit, It has to be done.


http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/2800/ige7by.jpg

My uncle's in that picture LOL!

[Lockecole]

If you want to go and give the "we all know what happend open/shut case tyvm" then I suggest you let me know why you are so sure.Radical islam is very real, and it's a problum, but so is the radical religous right, the only thing that you can't dispute is neither you or I know what happened on 9/11 we can only know what we've been told or what we have read, it's time for you to accept the possiblity that it might be a lie.

Quoted for truth. Why is everyone so afraid of finding out something out of the norm? We can only gain by knowing the truth, even if it is a gruesome one.

[thompkinsthebrian]

If you want to go and give the "we all know what happend open/shut case tyvm" then I suggest you let me know why you are so sure.Radical islam is very real, and it's a problum, but so is the radical religous right, the only thing that you can't dispute is neither you or I know what happened on 9/11 we can only know what we've been told or what we have read, it's time for you to accept the possiblity that it might be a lie.

Quoted for truth. Why is everyone so afraid of finding out something out of the norm? We can only gain by knowing the truth, even if it is a gruesome one.

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Ignorance is bliss. Some people are so easily controlled that they will believe the first thing that their favorite government officialssays to be the truth . Even after proved wrong they still some how cling to it as the truth.

[Demosthenes11]

And if it was a missile? Still don't get it, how would it not be possible to get hit with one.

And lol@the religious right being a problem. I guess the fact that the 10 commandments are being taken from every public viewing place means that the radical religious right is winning, and not the "ban all religion from everywhere" left

Edit: Not to mention you don't see christain people blowing themselves up/running planes into buildings while claiming everyone else is infidels

[thompkinsthebrian]

And if it was a missile? Still don't get it, how would it not be possible to get hit with one.

And lol@the religious right being a problem. I guess the fact that the 10 commandments are being taken from every public viewing place means that the radical religious right is winning, and not the "ban all religion from everywhere" left

Edit: Not to mention you don't see christain people blowing themselves up/running planes into buildings while claiming everyone else is infidels

yea they already had their few hundred year run at that

[Chumm]

And if it was a missile? Still don't get it, how would it not be possible to get hit with one.

And lol@the religious right being a problem. I guess the fact that the 10 commandments are being taken from every public viewing place means that the radical religious right is winning, and not the "ban all religion from everywhere" left

Edit: Not to mention you don't see christain people blowing themselves up/running planes into buildings while claiming everyone else is infidels

yea they already had their few hundred year run at that

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_inquisition
Back when the Christian right had a little more balls. The discovery of America simmered them down a bit with all the religious freedom, but they're on the rise more and more lately. Don't be suprised to see a war on Islam in your lifetime if this keeps up.

[Shaede]

Actually, Christian terrorists are still a big concern in the UK. You just don't hear about it much from American media sources.

[Elemmire]

Please, PLEASE sit there and say that the US causes every problem in the Middle East. It's all our fault, everything that happens in that region is directly the US's fault. I mean, we made Iran's new leader say that he wants to wipe Israel off the face of the map, and that the Holucaust is a myth. The US is the root cause for the milenia of violence, because a thousand years ago the Arabs forsaw a superpower from a land faraway and immediately started fighting about it.

Just shut the fuck up, seriously.

ya.. blame the british! they are the fucktards that broke it up into the nations it is now and placed people together that they shouldn't have :\ (just like in Africa). Fucking brits D:

[XxSlusherxx]

And if it was a missile? Still don't get it, how would it not be possible to get hit with one.

And lol@the religious right being a problem. I guess the fact that the 10 commandments are being taken from every public viewing place means that the radical religious right is winning, and not the "ban all religion from everywhere" left

Edit: Not to mention you don't see christain people blowing themselves up/running planes into buildings while claiming everyone else is infidels

In my mind the simple fact that this country can't agree on a civil union law for homosexuals is a hate crime.

Why christains are so afraid of homosexuals is beyond me. Last time I checked when the curtian tore the law of the old testament was overridden, but what do I know. It's not like homosexuals go around forcing straight people to be gay, but the opposite sure as hell is true, when I went to a lutheran high school in the 90s we had to watch a video about how to make your gay friends straight. They fired a teacher for being gay, and they fired another for being a female religous teacher. I've seen too much and know to much about the conservative lutheran church to respect them.

[edgarfigaro]

Please, PLEASE sit there and say that the US causes every problem in the Middle East. It's all our fault, everything that happens in that region is directly the US's fault. I mean, we made Iran's new leader say that he wants to wipe Israel off the face of the map, and that the Holucaust is a myth. The US is the root cause for the milenia of violence, because a thousand years ago the Arabs forsaw a superpower from a land faraway and immediately started fighting about it.

Just shut the fuck up, seriously.

ya.. blame the british! they are the fucktards that broke it up into the nations it is now and placed people together that they shouldn't have :\ (just like in Africa). Fucking brits D:

I'll drink to that!

[Raivyn]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/1559151.stm

very intresting

Am I the only one who noticed that this article was dated September 23, 2001 , or was that lost in the political debate that followed?

EDIT: Guess not. Sorry, lost Genosync's post in the flurry of hastily flung love.

No you're not, sadly the majority of people in this thread are foaming at the mouth and will ravenously devour any anti-conservative media and regurgitate it all over the place as fact.

[Raivyn]

Amazing. I should have known that any cry for the expression of integrity and logic in any post on the internet would be met only with failed attempts at wit (lolpictures/sensationalistic comments) or allegations of low intelligence and thinking that any government is 100 percent honest.

My pictures were the only quality thing about this thread, you punk! I'll not have you insult the cattle-bush while I'm here!

Oh, let me note that the irony of this:

[quote:acf50]...any post on the internet would be met only with failed attempts at wit (lolpictures/sensationalistic comments) or allegations of low intelligence...

I love how you follow it with this:

Spare me your pitiful insults, I'm not about to listen to people who so readily accept poor quality video as hard evidence.

and this:

Yet another example of how "you people" are completely wrong, not that I expect you to notice.

Classic.[/quote:acf50]

Yet another assumption laden post written by the smug and self-righteous.

By the way, I see no irony, because it isn't there.


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3 entries found for irony.
i·ro·ny ( P ) Pronunciation Key (r-n, r-)
n. pl. i·ro·nies

The use of words to express something different from and often opposite to their literal meaning.
An expression or utterance marked by a deliberate contrast between apparent and intended meaning.
A literary style employing such contrasts for humorous or rhetorical effect. See Synonyms at wit1.

Incongruity between what might be expected and what actually occurs: “Hyde noted the irony of Ireland's copying the nation she most hated” (Richard Kain).
An occurrence, result, or circumstance notable for such incongruity. See Usage Note at ironic.
Dramatic irony.
Socratic irony.

[XxSlusherxx]

No you're not, sadly the majority of people in this thread are foaming at the mouth and will ravenously devour any anti-conservative media and regurgitate it all over the place as fact.

lol @ BBC not being a credible source. who gives a shit about the date, it dosen't change the impact of the story

Yet another assumption laden post written by the smug and self-righteous.

By the way, I see no irony, because it isn't there.


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3 entries found for irony.
i·ro·ny ( P ) Pronunciation Key (r-n, r-)
n. pl. i·ro·nies

The use of words to express something different from and often opposite to their literal meaning.
An expression or utterance marked by a deliberate contrast between apparent and intended meaning.
A literary style employing such contrasts for humorous or rhetorical effect. See Synonyms at wit1.

Incongruity between what might be expected and what actually occurs: “Hyde noted the irony of Ireland's copying the nation she most hated” (Richard Kain).
An occurrence, result, or circumstance notable for such incongruity. See Usage Note at ironic.
Dramatic irony.
Socratic irony.

personal attacks make the best arguments /smug

[Raivyn]

Amazing. I should have known that any cry for the expression of integrity and logic in any post on the internet would be met only with failed attempts at wit (lolpictures/sensationalistic comments) or allegations of low intelligence and thinking that any government is 100 percent honest.

Seriously, I just scrolled from top to bottom at a moderate pace and caught the highlights. Spare me your pitiful insults, I'm not about to listen to people who so readily accept poor quality video as hard evidence.

By the way, I watched all 70 some minutes of that video many months ago, thank you very much. Yet another example of how "you people" are completely wrong, not that I expect you to notice.

First, you didn't read my post, because I said, your welcome to question the sources since it was an internet movie. Second, it is only 60 minutes long. You spout off about integrety of posts, and "low intellegence alligations" well, bring the meat then homeboy.

No shit I didn't read your post. I told you I didn't read your post right there. Ambush listening at it's best. But hey, you're just going to write me off as an idiot and then go back to reading The Nation so I'm just not going to waste my time.

And who cares how long the video is. I watched it months ago, and it was as insubstantial and full of hype then as it is now. I'm tired of seeing this shit touted as fact everywhere I go, it's rediculous. Get a will of your own people. So sorry to have offended you by overstating the length of the video, too bad that's the most substantial argument you've got against me.

Funny how someone tried to pull irony out of thin air, and here it is sitting infront of you the whole time.

Make an argument based on intelligent thoughts rather than ass-backwards connections about who was elected and how our country isn't really a democracy and how you're so smart because you can point out the technical differences between some word phrases and you think that completely invalidates anything anyone has said ever.

Second, it is only 60 minutes long.

I've never seen someone so deftly prove the point of their opponent.

Your an idiot.

Hey look, more irony!

Quickly for the grammar geeks;

The irony of the first point is the fact that one would not expect an adversary to continue doing something when it is well known that he will do it. Usually people will try to prove another person wrong by NOT doing what is expected. In this case, him doing the expected (by me) is ironic in that one would expect the unexpected.

The second point is ironic for two reasons. Firstly the spelling, and secondly because one would not expect an idiot to call others idiots.

[Raivyn]

No you're not, sadly the majority of people in this thread are foaming at the mouth and will ravenously devour any anti-conservative media and regurgitate it all over the place as fact.

lol @ BBC not being a credible source. who gives a shit about the date, it dosen't change the impact of the story

Yet another assumption laden post written by the smug and self-righteous.

By the way, I see no irony, because it isn't there.


Dictionary.com is your friend.

3 entries found for irony.
i·ro·ny ( P ) Pronunciation Key (r-n, r-)
n. pl. i·ro·nies

The use of words to express something different from and often opposite to their literal meaning.
An expression or utterance marked by a deliberate contrast between apparent and intended meaning.
A literary style employing such contrasts for humorous or rhetorical effect. See Synonyms at wit1.

Incongruity between what might be expected and what actually occurs: “Hyde noted the irony of Ireland's copying the nation she most hated” (Richard Kain).
An occurrence, result, or circumstance notable for such incongruity. See Usage Note at ironic.
Dramatic irony.
Socratic irony.

personal attacks make the best arguments /smug

Dude keep it comin, you're a riot.

Might I redirect you to a certain thread which a video sponsored by the BBC made an appearance, and the solid conclusion of myself, others, and many other news sources was that it was ill-thought-out propaganda? Good goin.