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  1. #41
    The God Damn Kuno
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    Gotta admit, that torque is like the pimpest thing for a thf so it would make anyone happy.

  2. #42
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    lol no AV 2 times, that sucks.

  3. #43
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    Was Pandemonium the only server that AV has popped on? That's kind of interesting actually... considering the name of our server =p.

  4. #44
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    what the meow... all that work for nothing
    /comfort

  5. #45
    blax n gunz
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    not nothing.

    2 halberds, torque and earring.

    Not bad for maybe four hours worth of work. And these LSes have the resources to reduce this badboy to farm status after this.

  6. #46
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    atless its easier to kill JoL now lol

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    well I spose its not nothing, but hearing people scream about AV eating tarus via explosions is kinda fun ^^

  8. #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by Correction
    not nothing.

    2 halberds, torque and earring.

    Not bad for maybe four hours worth of work. And these LSes have the resources to reduce this badboy to farm status after this.
    You have no fucking clue.

  9. #49
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    I think instead of fixing how retardedly bugged sea is, SE will probably go a new route to balance it with the rest of the game.

    LSMember1: dude we're ready, trade the seals and let's get going
    Popper: i traded them already, it said nothing happens
    LSMember1: you have to trade all 4 seals, genbu/suz/seiryu/byakko
    Popper: i did, i traded all 4
    LSMember2: try trading again?
    Popper: they aren't in my inventory anymore
    LSMember1: ...
    LSMember2: ...
    LSMember3: {I'm back!}
    LSMember1: why do you always afk before we start everything you tard

  10. #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morathi
    I think instead of fixing how retardedly bugged sea is, SE will probably go a new route to balance it with the rest of the game.

    LSMember1: dude we're ready, trade the seals and let's get going
    Popper: i traded them already, it said nothing happens
    LSMember1: you have to trade all 4 seals, genbu/suz/seiryu/byakko
    Popper: i did, i traded all 4
    LSMember2: try trading again?
    Popper: they aren't in my inventory anymore
    LSMember1: ...
    LSMember2: ...
    LSMember3: {I'm back!}
    LSMember1: why do you always afk before we start everything you tard
    as if it isn't already hard enough to get pop items with the 312514613 sky only ls's camping pop items every day of the week.

  11. #51
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    You have no fucking clue.
    Of course I don't. I only watched them kill 2 JoLs in four hours, maybe less, then learned their drops.

    This isn't Kirin or 3 kings, this is Al'Taieu.

    I don't imagine anybody really cares in the end if AV popped or not, it's enough to come away from these fights knowing you can kill them this fast.

    This same combination of LSes was the first to take down Vrtra last year. They team up for superhard shit like this for safety so they don't waste time/triggers, then they end up doing it as individual LSes later. This is how the two strongest .jp lses on Siren do things.

    But yeah since I don't know you and you've clearly spent a lot of time providing your own information on JoL on these boards, I don't have a fucking clue.

    You're welcome for the information.

  12. #52
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    Quote Originally Posted by Correction
    You have no fucking clue.
    Of course I don't. I only watched them kill 2 JoLs in four hours, maybe less, then learned their drops.

    This isn't Kirin or 3 kings, this is Al'Taieu.

    I don't imagine anybody really cares in the end if AV popped or not, it's enough to come away from these fights knowing you can kill them this fast.

    This same combination of LSes was the first to take down Vrtra last year. They team up for superhard shit like this for safety so they don't waste time/triggers, then they end up doing it as individual LSes later. This is how the two strongest .jp lses on Siren do things.

    But yeah since I don't know you and you've clearly spent a lot of time providing your own information on JoL on these boards, I don't have a fucking clue.

    You're welcome for the information.
    I think hes referring to the time it takesto get pop items, thats more than 4 hours.

  13. #53
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    Right, but he can do that without insulting me. I don't fucking know how long it took them to get 2 JoL pop sets, but he doesn't know what they've gotten out of their time farming, either. Weapons/Torques/Capes from Ix'Aerns and the other Jailers aren't abjuration, but they're not worthless.

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    I think it's somewhat insulting for people with less than full knowledge on sea, coming along and belittling the hours and hours and hours of work that people have to put in to only get one try at JoL and like 1/2 chance of AV.

  15. #55
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    "It took them four hours to kill JoL twice."

    Maybe next time I need to use sarcastic HTML markup like <GENERIC STATEMENT OF FACT> to hammer the point home here. I'm just the fking messenger, providing information on one NM fight without intending to pass judgment. I'm not saying:

    1) omgwtfbbqlol only four hours to get JoL's drops har har har easy

    2) God all you other lses farming sea suck ass.

    Fuck it, I'm done trying to contribute for tonight.

  16. #56
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    To put a little perspective on it for you, I've been doing LS manaburn parties (BLM BLM BLM BLM RDM BRD) at the Dragoon Ix'aern camp for probably a combined 20+ hours, plus we used to try and pop it as a group (at least 8 hours spent then).

    In the 8 hours we had a lot of people, it never popped.

    In the 20+ hours of manaburning, it's popped 3 times total and in those 3 kills we've gotten 2 deeds and 1 vice.

    So....take those 28 hours combined to get 2 triggers to pop Prudence (and that's only 1/2 the triggers); on our 2 Prudence kills we've gotten 2 rods, 1 torque, no virtues.

    So basically, 5 Jailer of Faith kills (assume 45 minutes each) and 28 hours of hunting Dragoon Ix'aern later and we're looking at 32 hours to get no fucking trigger whatsoever for Jailer of Love.

    Note this is about as good a scenario as you can get, only 6 people spending time farming Deeds of Sensibility as opposed to a full alliance and it's STILL frustrating as hell.

  17. #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by Correction
    Right, but he can do that without insulting me. I don't fucking know how long it took them to get 2 JoL pop sets, but he doesn't know what they've gotten out of their time farming, either. Weapons/Torques/Capes from Ix'Aerns and the other Jailers aren't abjuration, but they're not worthless.
    They are not worthless, but torques are a 20% drop rate, capes are less than that. Weapons are 100% drops, but the damage on most of them are not all that hot, plus you can't quiver Virture Stones. Not to mention that pop items are about a 50% drop rate. (Not to mention the lack of expensive crafting items like the Shinra drop.)

    Unless they upped drop rates dramatically, sea still sucks. ;_;

  18. #58
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morathi
    Note this is about as good a scenario as you can get, only 6 people spending time farming Deeds of Sensibility as opposed to a full alliance and it's STILL frustrating as hell.
    I think we're still 0 drops on Justice and we've basically had a group in Sea once or twice a week since it was opened plus outside farming on grah chips which we've been running maybe 20-30% drop rate on Fortitude so we've burned through an easy 120+ chips for nothing at all.

    All this to get JoL which has 4 drops, 3 of which are shit, and the 1 (of it's 2) earring drops, which is pretty much just the equivalent of a Brutal Earring for BLM, which it will probably drop at 20% or less... and a CHANCE at AV which has the actual drops but which is still broken and unkillable anyway.

    I think it's pretty clear they're keeping AV cock blocked until the next expansion. The only question is will they fix it a week before the expansion or some time after.

  19. #59
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    Because the Love Torque and the Novia Earring are shit? Of course, they're not for BLM, must be totally useless.

    Sea drop rates suck, but so do idiots.

  20. #60
    The God Damn Kuno
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    Brutal Earring for blm? Novio earring for blm is broken. XD

    7% constant Magic Attack Bonus (that isn't a super gay latent like it being saturday 3PM between 0-12 vanadiel time on waning cresent) in a spot where blm can only get 3 ele skill or 2 int is just flat out overpowered.

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