Midgard ATF HNMLS, Gillselling and hypocrisy

[Gamutstreet]

Wafik writes cliff's notes for a living.

[Iku]

this is some good drama

[Drona]

But dang I tried to inject some humor into the drama and you miss that in the cliff note version!

[Hanshin]

Wafik writes cliff's notes for a living.

Long live Wafik's Notes. Drama in 10 seconds.

[BlingBlingTigga]

This is reminiscent of the infamous Remora LS 'HiddenPower'

[mdn]

you normally have to do something other than wipe to fafnir and push nq behemoth into jp time to be considered an hnm shell don't you?

~midgardsormr, home of 50 NA HNM likshells~

[BRP]

More like 5 HNM LSes, 2 Gil Sellers LSes, and 43 LSes trying to become HNM LSes.

Anyway, Xephonn ain't no saint ;o. Stole an E-bow from my friend when joined PD(The dead LS PhoenixDown. Which Suup and all of ATF pretty much comes from).

I can't wait for a couple months when we hear drama threads about Estrya. I saw like 3-5 gil buyers in that LS(level 60 five weeks ago, suddenly has over +80 STR in gear over christmas kekeke)... I don't think ChaosGathering will ever get a thread, zerg LSes usually don't. Further more, I think in a year, PO will become PV of today due to vetern players quitting.

[Lui]

Wafik, you missed the part where the OP gave back the Noble's Tunic he earned from the linkshell.

that was stupid

[Drona]

I just want to clear up some of the drama. I'm in atf and yea people lie tell fake stuff all the time on game off game. I play to have fun Tabin was an account my friend left me and is still mine i let truth use it from time to time to say hi etc... the account is still mine and will stay mine and will be deleted when i decide to quit so please your feud with atf and truth can u keep it personal and not about my char as if its truths i dont want to hop on it and not get a pt invite cause they think im some big bad boogy man from your feud. or get hate tells whn i try to craft some food for my rng I understand you had a bad time man but people are gunna do what they want to dont let a game that in 2 years you wont even play anymore get you worked up to a point where u get stressed.

Well maga I did not have any idea that Tabin was owned by you.

However Solenz told me yesterday that my idea to remain in the linkshell and participate when Tabin=Truthena was not on was impossible because Truth was going to be on all the time and thus I would practically never be able to do anything with the linkshell. So your statement about how Tabin will be used by Truthena is at variance with the way Solenz and others have described the situation. I have no reason to doubt what you stated above nor do I have any inclination to think that Solenz was being anything less than straightforward with me.

The obvious descrepancy is consistent with the fact that some ATF members said that I quit ATF. ATF leadership relies on deceit and misinformation as a mangment tool.

Probably good training if ATF members want to pursue a career in politics because I think Cheney needs a replacement for Scooter at the White House and the ATF leadership certainly has a management style of deception and dishonesty that the Bush administration is well known for.

If you do not want Tabin to be associated with Gillselling then I recommend that you dont let a gilseller have access to your account.

As my grandmother might have once said, "If you dont want fleas dont lie down and go to sleep with dogs"

[BRP]

Hi Drona ;o, is your grandmother single?

[Eromenos-Ifrit]

all that time reading, all i got from that was:

"Blah Blah Blah... RMT... Blah Blah Blah... Bitter... Blah Blah Blah... bitch stole my bike, err nobles"

Did i miss anything? Man Ifrit has better drama than this lately, with the recent members of one HNM ls posting Mr.Argus on thier forum, and watching the other LSs talk shit about it like they don't use it themselves.

Oh yeah and the little thing that says "160+ downloads" or some shit, but when someone suggest "omgz do an ip look up to see who downloaded it"... then you get everyone and thier mother like "oh... umm gee.. i downloaded it to see what it looked like, but was scared about a virus, so i deleted it" lol

Oh yeah and don't forget the recent "OMGZ PLEASE PRAY FOR THIS GIRL THAT MIGHT DIE THAT PLAYS... oh wait did we say might die? no she just died... wait did we say it was a girl, no it was really a man, and umm... no the man didn't die... wait did i say that i was really a girl... ooops i have big ole balls dangling too"

This drama is rated B for boring. Everyone's heard this story. Names might have been changed, and different servers/LS/whatever, but it's no different lol.

I say, next time some random person wants to come bring thier drama here, it should be good and orignal. Attach a poll to it. Us as the readers, vote yay or nay on it after reading the first post. after 10 votes majority rules if it's worthy enough to go on to page 2. If not, it's locked.

Good example of fun drama thread:

http://www.theorderls.com/phpBB2/vie...er=asc&start=0
(Now this was a decent thread. Had private forum screenshots, was interesting to read, and even with it being a "heard it before" feel, by page 2 it was already unique enough to be entertaining to read)


Examples of Bad drama threads:

http://www.theorderls.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=6660
(really now, you have to try better than this)

http://www.theorderls.com/phpBB2/vie...er=asc&start=0
(Basically who the fuck cares if you are all emo over being stupid enough to jerk off while talking to a manthra, loser)

http://www.theorderls.com/phpBB2/vie...t=6578&start=0
(come on now, come up with something original, and for fuck sake use your return key sometimes)

oh and:
http://www.theorderls.com/phpBB2/vie...er=asc&start=0
Are you kidding me? 12 pages about a damn Uli? That was good drama, when? A year ago, maybe?

[Lylie]

That is how Endgame works:

- Find yourself a HNM / Sky LS.
- Suck your Leaders (and all his friends) ball or you will be kicked.
- Never critize a Sackholder, or one of his friend, and by no mean, the Shell holder.
- Never talk about "How to make things better", because that will be like critisize them, and you will end up booted.
- Never say anything about the drop priority, even if the same WHM get a Noble Tunic, sell it to buy a Serket Ring, ask for a second Noble Tunic, and get it. Don't say anything if your LS leader is a Ranger, and want a Byakko Haidate, Genbu Kabuto, because it makes sense for them to lot the items they don't need.
- Never believe an item is yours. The item belongs to your LS, and if you leave, the item will be offered to one of the leaders.
- You are welcomed to come to every event. But if you don't come once, you are welcomed to leave the LS. If a LS leader feels like going to EXP while you are working your ass out in Sky, do not say anything, or they will kick you. If you see someone loting an item, but never saw him helping the LS farming Sky, do not say anything, he is probably a leader's friend, or a leader himself.

- You have now been fired from your LS.
- You need to find another LS that "seems" cool. You have to apply, post a long and annoying post about how much will you suck your futur leader's ball, like : "I am Goldsmithing 90, so of course, I will make you whatever you want".
- After one or two weeks, you will see that this LS is the same than the last one you were, but with different names.

2 months of following such idiotic rules, and you will regret your FFXI life. Endgame LSs are like drugs: it might seems cool and fun (and all the "cool" kids do it), but in the end, you're addicted, disapointed, sick, and wished you never touched them.

[Geostigma]

That is how Endgame works:

- Find yourself a HNM / Sky LS.
- Suck your Leaders (and all his friends) ball or you will be kicked.
- Never critize a Sackholder, or one of his friend, and by no mean, the Shell holder.
- Never talk about "How to make things better", because that will be like critisize them, and you will end up booted.
- Never say anything about the drop priority, even if the same WHM get a Noble Tunic, sell it to buy a Serket Ring, ask for a second Noble Tunic, and get it. Don't say anything if your LS leader is a Ranger, and want a Byakko Haidate, Genbu Kabuto, because it makes sense for them to lot the items they don't need.
- Never believe an item is yours. The item belongs to your LS, and if you leave, the item will be offered to one of the leaders.
- You are welcomed to come to every event. But if you don't come once, you are welcomed to leave the LS. If a LS leader feels like going to EXP while you are working your ass out in Sky, do not say anything, or they will kick you. If you see someone loting an item, but never saw him helping the LS farming Sky, do not say anything, he is probably a leader's friend, or a leader himself.

- You have now been fired from your LS.
- You need to find another LS that "seems" cool. You have to apply, post a long and annoying post about how much will you suck your futur leader's ball, like : "I am Goldsmithing 90, so of course, I will make you whatever you want".
- After one or two weeks, you will see that this LS is the same than the last one you were, but with different names.

2 months of following such idiotic rules, and you will regret your FFXI life. Endgame LSs are like drugs: it might seems cool and fun (and all the "cool" kids do it), but in the end, you're addicted, disapointed, sick, and wished you never touched them.

hahaha omg so utterly true

[Fistandantilus]

Endgame LSs are like drugs: it might seems cool and fun (and all the "cool" kids do it), but in the end, you're addicted, disapointed, sick, and wished you never touched them.

Greatest quote ever.

[Elcura]

Some bitter people here >.>

I've only felt badly about 1 HNM LS, but to be honest I've only been in 3.

[Lordwafik]

Some bitter people here >.>

I've only felt badly about 1 HNM LS, but to be honest I've only been in 3.

/nod

I've been in 4 endgame LS's, only hated 1 of them, the first one I left pretty much for the reasons mentioned above. He was a bard and wanted all the god gears, he tried telling us that AGI increased the distance of bard songs, and that's why he gets them over the rangers. Didnt stop the rangers from lotting ^^. That's not the only reason I left, it's mainly coz he was an asshole, never farmed, had a LS bank that was always mysterious, kind of like how his bonecraft went to 100. We never saw the bank, he never logged in except to craft and do sky and lot on shit he wont use, and well I was sick of that tripe and left :D

[Shalababala]

Wasn't ATF started by some peeps that took PD equip? Or am I thinking of another shell? Oh well just more drama to regurgitate from a while back >.>

I can think of a few people in our ls that sold their acct, and some of them came back with new accts or w/e but still knew how to play... but selling your acct with tradeable ls gear on it is wanktacular.

Anyway kudos to you on giving back your tunic, I wouldn't want to keep it if I was treated that way.

[edgarfigaro]

nobles are cheaper than vermies nowadays, go buy one.

[Dethsbane]

That is how Endgame works:

- Find yourself a HNM / Sky LS.
- Suck your Leaders (and all his friends) ball or you will be kicked.
- Never critize a Sackholder, or one of his friend, and by no mean, the Shell holder.
- Never talk about "How to make things better", because that will be like critisize them, and you will end up booted.
- Never say anything about the drop priority, even if the same WHM get a Noble Tunic, sell it to buy a Serket Ring, ask for a second Noble Tunic, and get it. Don't say anything if your LS leader is a Ranger, and want a Byakko Haidate, Genbu Kabuto, because it makes sense for them to lot the items they don't need.
- Never believe an item is yours. The item belongs to your LS, and if you leave, the item will be offered to one of the leaders.
- You are welcomed to come to every event. But if you don't come once, you are welcomed to leave the LS. If a LS leader feels like going to EXP while you are working your ass out in Sky, do not say anything, or they will kick you. If you see someone loting an item, but never saw him helping the LS farming Sky, do not say anything, he is probably a leader's friend, or a leader himself.

- You have now been fired from your LS.
- You need to find another LS that "seems" cool. You have to apply, post a long and annoying post about how much will you suck your futur leader's ball, like : "I am Goldsmithing 90, so of course, I will make you whatever you want".
- After one or two weeks, you will see that this LS is the same than the last one you were, but with different names.

2 months of following such idiotic rules, and you will regret your FFXI life. Endgame LSs are like drugs: it might seems cool and fun (and all the "cool" kids do it), but in the end, you're addicted, disapointed, sick, and wished you never touched them.

hahaha omg so utterly true

The sad part about endgame is, there is never ever really time for you to do what you want if you work 9-5. By the time you get home, you're rushing to an event and when its over, its time for you to go to bed. After awhile you get sick and tired of the bs and quit. In 2 weeks time you realize that you miss killing the shit that matters. You throw yourself back into the mess thinking things might change, but it never does. Sure enough end game gets you the best gears and stuff, but you'd have to either quit your job or sleep only 2 hrs a night just to hold more than one 75 job.

I envy students.

[epigram]

I've only been in 3 hnm ls's, first one started out ok. But the primary leader started lotting on everything and made a bunch of stupid remarks. Other leaders were equally as greedy, 5/5 zenith while others are 1/5 and have same time in and go to the same events... Main leaders and a few others also sold stuff on mules that supposed to go to coffer...

Second ls just fell appart, we had some awesome players but not the right jobs. We wiped on aspi because we only had 1 blm, we had about a zillion whm's though but just no real dmg.

Current ls, it's fine, still a little bit of drama. One leader obviously has little leadership experience and it goes over like nails on a blackboard. Other leaders are fine. We have greedy people too but at least they aren't leaders.

If I ever leave my current ls I'll just do hnm with friends. Really that's the only way to do hnm, sky is supprisingly fun with 8 people. My friends and I right now do late night sky runs, I usually have work so I can't always attend but Genbu is a good gil maker and fun to tank sometimes too :D