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    Quote Originally Posted by Raivyn
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    Faith in Jesus = WIN!
    /flame on

    yeah because faith in the big invisible man in the sky who knows all and sees all is so not borderline crazy*


    *it is crazy
    Yes, the atheists must be the only sane group of people on the planet.
    Nah, everyone is crazy, religious people are just extra crazy.

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    fantacisits are the crazy ones

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daahan
    fantacisits are the crazy ones
    sooo..... religious people?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Almaa
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    Faith in Jesus = WIN!
    /flame on

    yeah because faith in the big invisible man in the sky who knows all and sees all is so not borderline crazy*


    *it is crazy
    Wherever the poetry of myth is interpreted as biography, history, or science, it is killed. The living images become only remote facts of a distant time or sky. Furthermore, it is never difficult to demonstrate that as science and history mythology is absurd. When a civilization begins to reinterpret its mthology in this way, the life goes out of it, temples become museums, and the link between the two perspectives is dissolved. Such a blight has certainly decended on the Bible and on a great part of the Christian cult.

    - Joseph Campbell, The Hero with a Thousand Faces 1949

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    I vote for this to be avatar of the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Almaa
    Quote Originally Posted by Daahan
    fantacisits are the crazy ones
    sooo..... religious people?
    i think there is a very big difference between being religous and being a religous fanaticist.

    and yea sept, it owns

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    Quote Originally Posted by Almaa
    Nah, everyone is crazy, religious people are just extra crazy.
    One would argue that those who express ultimates on things widely acknowledged as neither provable nor disprovable would be the one to be considered crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raivyn
    Quote Originally Posted by Almaa
    Nah, everyone is crazy, religious people are just extra crazy.
    One would argue that those who express ultimates on things widely acknowledged as neither provable nor disprovable would be the one to be considered crazy.
    Man you never quit, I'm being facetious. Besides, crazy and sane are a point of view, no one is the same mentally, therefore no one can be perfectly sane, wouldn't you say?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...f65ba1f6be.gif

    I vote for this to be avatar of the day.
    HE IS INDESTRUCTABLE!! /ytmnd

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    you know, it's not really funny if the guy actually died.. .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zigma
    you know, it's not really funny if the guy actually died.. .
    I know it looked real but isn't it just a little to much of a cowincidence that at the very moment he sings "I will survive" a bus hits him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geostigma
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    you know, it's not really funny if the guy actually died.. .
    I know it looked real but isn't it just a little to much of a cowincidence that at the very moment he sings "I will survive" a bus hits him.
    That and the fact that the camera man edited and put together the final video after the guy "died" make it seem fake, it is very convincing though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Almaa
    yeah because faith in the big invisible man in the sky who knows all and sees all is so not borderline crazy
    Well, then just believe in the prophets and what they teached. Follow Jesus, Moses, Mohammud, Confucius or Siddhartha (the first Bhudda) and their teaching. Have faith in their ideas.

    P.S. Jesus wins

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avvesione
    Quote Originally Posted by Almaa
    yeah because faith in the big invisible man in the sky who knows all and sees all is so not borderline crazy
    Well, then just believe in the prophets and what they teached. Follow Jesus, Moses, Mohammud, Confucius or Siddhartha (the first Bhudda) and their teaching. Have faith in their ideas.

    P.S. Jesus wins
    youre gay

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    I don't see why athiests don't just go /emoslitwrist, i mean, if there is nothing greater than us, why live at all? Why go through the trouble and work of life for nothing in the end? Or is an athiest life a perfectly happy life in which there is no reason for an end?

    edit: but about the guy dying, he didn't. If you watch is frame-by-frame, he kind of seeps into the bus a bit..he was edited into that shot.




    you're right though, the pshrink did put me on teh meds

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    It's like people only understand a narrow view of their own beliefs. Such is the fate of most of mankind in this age.

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    No, I wasn't trying to insult athiests, I was just wondering what is /their/ personal motivation for not killing themselves.

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    I have faith in my family and friends, in things I enjoy doing, in tangible things that have some sort of affect on me. I just don't believe in invisible gods promising heaven or anything else for living a righteous life. I don't try to live a good life for the reward at the end, I live a good life because I actually have a desire to. I don't need some teachings to know right from wrong and good and bad, I can decide that on my own and I've done a pretty good job I think.

    I mean think about it, if you follow some religious faith, and you follow the teachings only because it is your religion (that you most likely learned from your parents) and you want the great after-life, isn't someone who doesn't believe in the reward at the end and is a good person anyway a better person? Not to say any of you are bad, but some crazies like that dark sided fat biatch, think that you are evil if you aren't christian, but from my logical perspective, that makes no sense.

    Religion is a nice story, and heaven is a nice idea, but... I'm a fan of logic. I've studied a number of religions and I find them to be interesting, but that's about it. Sure they teach good values, but I grew up in an atheist household, never followed any religion, and I didn't learn much depth about any of them until highschool. I turned out ok.

    So I just went off a bit, but my motivation? The people and things I care about. That's enough for me... do you really need more?

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    A father and his son were both traveling to different towns with goods to sell. They had a donkey that belonged with them that accompanied them on the trip.

    At first, the father rode on the donkey while his son walked alongside him. When they reached the first town, the townfolk stared at them and said "Look at that insincere father making his poor son walk he gets to ride on the donkey." The father felt guilty and therefore when leaving the town, let his son sit on the donkey and he was the one who walked.

    When they reached the next town, the father and son rode in with the son sitting on the donkey and the father walking. The townsfolk of the second town all looked at the father and son and said "Look at that boy showing no respect for his poor old father and making him walk." The son then took these words in to consideration. The father and the son decided to both ride on the donkey on the way to the next town.

    When the father and son approached the third town with both of them riding on the donkey, the townsfolk all looked at them and said "Look at the insincere man and boy, burdening that poor donkey with both their weights. The father and son once again look at each other and decided that niether should ride on the donkey, and moved on to the next town.

    When the reached the fourth town with both of them walking side-by-side the donkey, the townsfolk looked at them and said "That boy and his father must be pretty stupid to not ride that donkey to make their travels easier."

    Moral of the story: Perspective; every town and people will have their own and one person's perspective is always strange or different from anothers.

    Now lets stop this critical analysis of perspective of religion and laugh our asses off at the Jesus singing "I Will Survive" video some more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Almaa
    I have faith in my family and friends, in things I enjoy doing, in tangible things that have some sort of affect on me. I just don't believe in invisible gods promising heaven or anything else for living a righteous life. I don't try to live a good life for the reward at the end, I live a good life because I actually have a desire to. I don't need some teachings to know right from wrong and good and bad, I can decide that on my own and I've done a pretty good job I think.

    I mean think about it, if you follow some religious faith, and you follow the teachings only because it is your religion (that you most likely learned from your parents) and you want the great after-life, isn't someone who doesn't believe in the reward at the end and is a good person anyway a better person? Not to say any of you are bad, but some crazies like that dark sided fat biatch, think that you are evil if you aren't christian, but from my logical perspective, that makes no sense.

    Religion is a nice story, and heaven is a nice idea, but... I'm a fan of logic. I've studied a number of religions and I find them to be interesting, but that's about it. Sure they teach good values, but I grew up in an atheist household, never followed any religion, and I didn't learn much depth about any of them until highschool. I turned out ok.

    So I just went off a bit, but my motivation? The people and things I care about. That's enough for me... do you really need more?
    I feel the desire to reply directly to this, as I'm sure it applies to many many people these days and not just Almaa. Actually, it's a point of view I'm extremely familiar with.

    Having a faith in family and friends is something even the most devout person who believes in a "big man in the sky" would also emulate. But what is "tangible"? Why hold people dear to you? Why do some places envoke a feeling of awe or reverence for it's size, power, or beauty? What makes art such a wonderful thing that we spend so much time and money into creating it? What is "tangible" and where do you draw the line between intangible and tangible? Is a dream something you would consider real? What about an emotion?

    Your second paragraph wonderfully decribes the current Christian religion, which is filled with secondary interpretation and is fixated with logic and symbols rather then meaning or truisms.

    Your third paragraph infers that you are Agnostic. I would like to point out that Athiesm is a religion no less then any other. A faith in no higher power(s) is just the same as a faith in higher power(s). Also, it's often times that logic is merely a blanket which covers ideas from the truth behind the picture.

    I'm not saying anything is wrong with your beliefs at all, but merely that your interpretation of other beliefs may not be as accurate as you may believe. In fact, as is often the case, your own beliefs may not be exactly what you think them to be. After all, when you get down to it, logic and reason have no place in the areas of the heart.

    Edit: typos

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