ToA contradiction?

[Khamsin]

There already is some high-level solo content.

e.g. Some jobs (BLM, RDM, SMN, etc.) are capable of soloing their obis for In the Name of Science.

Some jobs can solo level their NPC to 65 (THF, NIN, BST, BLM, RDM, SMN, etc.)

Some jobs can solo certain Limbuses (NIN, RDM, etc.)

There are uncapped ENMs that some jobs can do solo (BLM, RDM, SMN, etc.), or the ENM60 (if that counts as high level) for any job.

Maybe the new content will be similar, but actually designed to be soloable by anyone at 75, with varying degrees of challenge.

[Raineer]

e.g. Some jobs (BLM, RDM, SMN, etc.) are capable of soloing their obis for In the Name of Science.

While the intent of your post might be the truth, this statement is a lie. The items are not 'soloable' becase a single RDM will never get 5 E'uvhi drops in one lifetime.

[Khamsin]

I said obis, not gorgets (yovra) or earrings (euhvi).

..and believe me, I know about those euhvi, I tried farming them once on RDM. It was boring, and they never dropped.

[FFXIFlux]

Maybe the new content will be similar, but actually designed to be soloable by anyone at 75, with varying degrees of challenge.

There won't be significantly more high level solo content than there is now. I can solo a few XP scrolls per week, and "solo" with my NPC and as you say on some jobs I can solo some content like ENMs, but it won't change beyond that.

SE has proven that they aren't going to spend money on the game to properly instance things, improve network architecture, or create a PC codestream for enhanced features. So any radical change to the game that would be required to make solo content beyond the kind there is already, like you'd hope there would be, is out of the question. At best expect a few XP scroll quests that require 30+ minutes of running all over the place to touch ???s and a couple more single player ENMs.

SE is beyond glacial in their pace at enhanceing the game. Don't expect even the least bit of innovation with this expansion, creating a couple jobs would have worn them out completely. Also don't expect the expansion to be anything close to complete when it's out as it took them well over a year to finish CoP after it was released. I doubt ToA will be "done" until at least early 2008.

FFXI is a beautiful game, but for whatever reason SE is holding a pillow over it's mouth and watching it suffocate to death.

[Zigrah]

However I wouldn't call that true high end content, being able to farm for a quest solo or level an NPC (by definition uses an NPC makes it no longer solo) whether or not you could solo the mob. Soloing it to 75 would be hard for many jobs with the exception of jobs capable of sleep nuking or blink tanking very well. The NPC would make it easier though, but it's no longer solo then if you ask me.

I'll concede on the limbus to a degree, but it's only a couple zones. No offense, while some of the items you can purchase with coins are nice. The End game content of it is the Proto Weapons. You can't solo those obviously. Not to mention getting to Sea to participate in limbus is impossible to solo. There isn't really a soloable HNM (not anymore). Or something so epic you could do it yourself... Relics would be so much better if they were a highly involving and very long sequence of tough quests you could only do solo... even if it took you the same amount of time to get one.

What you can and what qualifies as solo end game I suppose is in the eye of the beholder. To me it's quite obvious there isn't much one can do in this game by themselves. Sure I could theoretically solo XP on toughs very slowly with a good chance that even at my best something could go wrong and I die negating the whole experience.

Quite frankly, this isn't a game that you could play by never once partying and consider the game to still be enjoyable. Even BST had to party to 30, or else they were in for a very long solo experience to get there.

I especially don't consider something solo worthy if not all jobs can pull it off either. Just because a blm with enough items can solo KS30 scorps I wouldn't call it solo content... but it's a matter of opinion.

[BRP]

Duo or Trio Content >>>>>>>>>>>> solo content.

[MisterBob]

I solo'd my Euvhi organs as a BLM, and 2 RDM in my LS solod them as well. Only takes 1-2 weeks, not even hardcore playing...

[Lockecole]

Solo content is teh pwn. Why play an MMORPG with other people, when you could do it all alone?!

[FFXIFlux]

Solo content is teh pwn. Why play an MMORPG with other people, when you could do it all alone?!

No one to admire your e-penis.

[Septimus]

Solo content is teh pwn. Why play an MMORPG with other people, when you could do it all alone?!

Or because it's just damn annoying to try to get 5 to 17 other people who have two functioning brain cells in the same room to make any progress in the game.

My greatest wish is that every single mission in ToAU is solo only so I don't have to be held back trying to find people who need it or impose on people who have done it before for help. (And even then you have to make sure that they all have the right jobs and levels and that they aren't spectacular morons who will get you killed and/or waste your time.) I've wanted to do the last Zilart mission for almost a year now, and have 4 other people who want to do it, but we can't find a tank so we would get housed. I'm stuck on San d'Orian mission 7-2 because I can't find 3 other people who need it.

Depending on other people sucks ass.

[Raineer]

Granted that people don't subscribe to a MMORPG to play alone but it sure is nice to have the option every now and then.

[Daahan]

I agree with Sept.

Yes the point of a MMO is to get together with other people and have some fun; however, you can always grow tired of people and just want to be left alone. It's almost like RL when there are those times you just want to be left alone for the day and not have to deal with anyone.

I would much rather solo quest in to the cave of hoogyboogy then have to wait for/find people, or go with people who are so stupid they couldn't tell a book from an automobile.

[BRP]

Duo or Trio Content >>>>>>>>>>>> solo content.

prease.

[Not Kuno]

Duo or Trio Content >>>>>>>>>>>> solo content.

prease.

quoting yourself is gay

[BRP]

;/ no one is paid attention /cry.

[Septimus]

;/ no one is paid attention /cry.

I paid attention. I still perfer solo content than having to wait for anyone.

[Gamutstreet]

FFXII will be soloable.

[Brendam]

FFXII will be soloable.

AND IT HAS MANDRAGORAS!

[Siatdiat]

Solo content is teh pwn. Why play an MMORPG with other people, when you could do it all alone?!

Or because it's just damn annoying to try to get 5 to 17 other people who have two functioning brain cells in the same room to make any progress in the game.

My greatest wish is that every single mission in ToAU is solo only so I don't have to be held back trying to find people who need it or impose on people who have done it before for help. (And even then you have to make sure that they all have the right jobs and levels and that they aren't spectacular morons who will get you killed and/or waste your time.) I've wanted to do the last Zilart mission for almost a year now, and have 4 other people who want to do it, but we can't find a tank so we would get housed. I'm stuck on San d'Orian mission 7-2 because I can't find 3 other people who need it.

Depending on other people sucks ass.

I think the main reason noone wants to do these things for the most part is weak reward for the time and effort you spend setting it up, most of the time when i managed to get something done it was more for completions sake, and doing things for that reason gets old fast. Some solo content would be a good chnge for people probably, but i dont think people so much want solo content as they would just like some more laid back fun content where you send a tell to your best friend and say "hey wanna go do this new quest/mission/etc.?" People want to play this game with friends, they just dont always want to have to find 5+ friends who arent busy atm to do it. Looks like im actually agreeing with BRP here.... people want to duo/trio, they want to decide on something to do and do it soon, not 4 hrs later.

[Zigrah]

The reason FFXI has no solo content is because the games Job balance is so messed up... even the maat fights span between easy to challenging. Most people win purely by bringing a ton of items.

So if they made Aht Urghan solo it would have to be ridiculously easy, which wouldn't be fun. I must admit some of the COP bc's and zones were fun... IN THE MOMENT... the preperation was hell but I did enjoy it and sea felt like an accomplishment. The balance problem still exists though, I "leeched" a bit... mostly on Ouryu. Making it not solo allows you to leech though... so to be honest... I really don't know what I want.

Too much in this game lacks a real challenge, so I encourage it usually. However at the same time being a thief COP felt like torture at times.